Shaquille O'Neal Apologizes To Kobe Bryant For Breaking Up 2000s Lakers

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Shaquille O'Neal Apologizes To Kobe Bryant For Breaking Up 2000s Lakers 

Post#1 » by RealGM Wiretap » Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:07 pm

Shaquille O'Neal apologized to Kobe Bryant for how their partnership fell apart in 2004 after they had won three titles together.


O'Neal had a moment of realization on his part after they were named co-MVPs of the 2009 All-Star Game.


“You told me to take the trophy home and I took it home and gave it to (my son) Shareef. And I realized I may have messed something up,” O’Neal said. “A lot of times that our beef was going on, you know me. I’m the master marketer. I would just say it to keep it going. But when you did that when you didn’t have to do that, I said to myself, ‘Luckily, I won three out of four with this guy. But I was an [expletive] to this guy.’


“So, I owe you an apology. I’m going to give you an apology, but we don’t need to be doing all of that crying like Magic [Johnson] and Isiah [Thomas]. But thank you for that moment. Shareef loved that moment. I was going through a lot at the time. He loves you for it, and I love you for that moment. So thank you.”


O'Neal sought an extension from the Lakers in 2004 as Bryant approached free agency. Bryant was preparing to sign with the Bulls if O'Neal signed an extension, but the Lakers traded O'Neal.

Via Sam Cooper/Yahoo! Sports

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Post#2 » by Bball_Truth » Sun Feb 18, 2018 4:08 pm

Batman apologizes to Robin!
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Post#3 » by wayoftheroad » Sun Feb 18, 2018 4:10 pm

Bball_Truth wrote:Batman apologizes to Robin!


Don't ever play yourself
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Post#4 » by Hoopzilla » Sun Feb 18, 2018 4:41 pm

Admitting to being an ass*ole does not make it okay when the apology comes almost 14 years after the behaviour... He said he realised it in 2009 but didn't say anything publicly until now, which only shows how not sorry he really is. Is this the lessons Shaq teaches his kids? Realise the error of your ways in 2009 and then wait another 9 years to admit them? Classy... :crazy:

Kobe got the last laugh, he got more titles and is looked at as the better player on an all time level. Shaq gets the reputation of being a self admitted arrogant ass*ole, seems about right.
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Post#5 » by caronimo » Sun Feb 18, 2018 5:21 pm

It's all in the past now and everybody moved on. Shaq and Kobe were cool when Kobe spoke at Shaq's statue ceremony. It's still good to apologize in my books...no shame in that.
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Post#6 » by chipchipperson » Sun Feb 18, 2018 5:25 pm

Hoopzilla wrote:Admitting to being an ass*ole does not make it okay when the apology comes almost 14 years after the behaviour... He said he realised it in 2009 but didn't say anything publicly until now, which only shows how not sorry he really is. Is this the lessons Shaq teaches his kids? Realise the error of your ways in 2009 and then wait another 9 years to admit them? Classy... :crazy:

Kobe got the last laugh, he got more titles and is looked at as the better player on an all time level. Shaq gets the reputation of being a self admitted arrogant ass*ole, seems about right.


Good try, but the problem with your petty ass **** is that Kobe was just as responsible for the break up as shaq.
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Post#7 » by dan-man » Sun Feb 18, 2018 5:35 pm

Bball_Truth wrote:Batman apologizes to Robin!


Robin has more rings than Batman? Uhhh, no.
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Post#8 » by Hoopzilla » Sun Feb 18, 2018 5:56 pm

chipchipperson wrote:
Hoopzilla wrote:Admitting to being an ass*ole does not make it okay when the apology comes almost 14 years after the behaviour... He said he realised it in 2009 but didn't say anything publicly until now, which only shows how not sorry he really is. Is this the lessons Shaq teaches his kids? Realise the error of your ways in 2009 and then wait another 9 years to admit them? Classy... :crazy:

Kobe got the last laugh, he got more titles and is looked at as the better player on an all time level. Shaq gets the reputation of being a self admitted arrogant ass*ole, seems about right.


Good try, but the problem with your petty ass **** is that Kobe was just as responsible for the break up as shaq.


It came down to a choice, Shaq, the old lumbering big man, or Kobe, the young Jordan clone. Jerry West chose the youthful Jordan clone over the aging beast. Kobe had no input on West's decision, Kobe was just the obvious choice. :crazy:

Here is a video, to show your petty ass that it was Shaq refusing to take less money, and not Kobe, that broke up the Lakers. These words come from Shaq's mouth at 4:35 of the video. Kobe had nothing to do with Shaq deciding he wasn't interested in taking less money to stay you dumbass. :lol:

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Post#9 » by MartinToVaught » Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:34 pm

Kobe should be apologizing to Shaq, not the other way around. He's the one who actually broke that team up. He ruined the 2004 Finals for the Lakers by refusing to pass the ball to Shaq, then used the Clippers as leverage in the offseason to force the Lakers to trade Shaq.
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Post#10 » by AussieRules » Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:08 pm

MartinToVaught wrote:Kobe should be apologizing to Shaq, not the other way around. He's the one who actually broke that team up. He ruined the 2004 Finals for the Lakers by refusing to pass the ball to Shaq, then used the Clippers as leverage in the offseason to force the Lakers to trade Shaq.


This just goes to show you how much people get brainwashed by the media. Even after hearing the truth from the horses mouth, you still chose to believe the fabricated story concocted by the media
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Post#11 » by totalrekall » Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:17 pm

Jerry West would have traded Shaq anyway. he had already lost some of his dominance and West was smart enough to see Shaq wasnt going to be elite much longer. this is a huge person who didnt take offseason conditioning seriously or keep his weight down. Shaq ballooned every offseason and used the regular season to get into playing shape. his physical breakdown was guaranteed to happen sooner rather than later.
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Post#12 » by macNcheese3 » Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:09 pm

Thank you Shaq.
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Post#13 » by MartinToVaught » Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:09 pm

AussieRules wrote:
MartinToVaught wrote:Kobe should be apologizing to Shaq, not the other way around. He's the one who actually broke that team up. He ruined the 2004 Finals for the Lakers by refusing to pass the ball to Shaq, then used the Clippers as leverage in the offseason to force the Lakers to trade Shaq.


This just goes to show you how much people get brainwashed by the media. Even after hearing the truth from the horses mouth, you still chose to believe the fabricated story concocted by the media
It's not fabricated at all. Mike Dunleavy said in an interview a few years ago that Kobe was going to sign with the Clippers if the Lakers didn't trade Shaq. The Lakers ended up trading Shaq the day before free agency began, and Kobe called Dunleavy shortly afterwards to tell him that he was staying with the Lakers after all. You do the math.
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Post#14 » by AussieRules » Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:36 pm

MartinToVaught wrote:
AussieRules wrote:
MartinToVaught wrote:Kobe should be apologizing to Shaq, not the other way around. He's the one who actually broke that team up. He ruined the 2004 Finals for the Lakers by refusing to pass the ball to Shaq, then used the Clippers as leverage in the offseason to force the Lakers to trade Shaq.


This just goes to show you how much people get brainwashed by the media. Even after hearing the truth from the horses mouth, you still chose to believe the fabricated story concocted by the media
It's not fabricated at all. Mike Dunleavy said in an interview a few years ago that Kobe was going to sign with the Clippers if the Lakers didn't trade Shaq. The Lakers ended up trading Shaq the day before free agency began, and Kobe called Dunleavy shortly afterwards to tell him that he was staying with the Lakers after all. You do the math.


Yes because Kobe wanted to get away from the big bully and away from a toxic situation. Kobe was in the right in wanting to leave. The lakers got better because of it period.
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Post#15 » by jb6590 » Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:46 pm

totalrekall wrote:Jerry West would have traded Shaq anyway. he had already lost some of his dominance and West was smart enough to see Shaq wasnt going to be elite much longer. this is a huge person who didnt take offseason conditioning seriously or keep his weight down. Shaq ballooned every offseason and used the regular season to get into playing shape. his physical breakdown was guaranteed to happen sooner rather than later.


West took over the Grizzlies in 2002.
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Post#16 » by commentatorer » Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:11 pm

Shaq has the most likable personality in NBA history along with Michael Jordan.
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Post#17 » by MartinToVaught » Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:12 pm

AussieRules wrote:
MartinToVaught wrote:
AussieRules wrote:
This just goes to show you how much people get brainwashed by the media. Even after hearing the truth from the horses mouth, you still chose to believe the fabricated story concocted by the media
It's not fabricated at all. Mike Dunleavy said in an interview a few years ago that Kobe was going to sign with the Clippers if the Lakers didn't trade Shaq. The Lakers ended up trading Shaq the day before free agency began, and Kobe called Dunleavy shortly afterwards to tell him that he was staying with the Lakers after all. You do the math.


Yes because Kobe wanted to get away from the big bully and away from a toxic situation. Kobe was in the right in wanting to leave. The lakers got better because of it period.

No, they did not. The so-called "big bully" was arguably robbed of an MVP the first year in Miami and won a ring in Year 2. Meanwhile, the Lakers were bad-to-mediocre. They didn't get better for real until the Pau trade, which was several years removed from the Shaq trade.
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Post#18 » by Themaster007_v2 » Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:23 pm

MartinToVaught wrote:Kobe should be apologizing to Shaq, not the other way around. He's the one who actually broke that team up. He ruined the 2004 Finals for the Lakers by refusing to pass the ball to Shaq, then used the Clippers as leverage in the offseason to force the Lakers to trade Shaq.


Did you watch the interview between the two guys? Kobe was actually a good teammate to Shaq. Kobe acknowledged how important it was for Shaq to win his first NBA championship. Shaq even admitted that he got lazy after the first championship run and wanted to just cruised. He even said a big part of his laziness was because he had Kobe and relied on him. You can break it down via interview:

- Shaq was hungry for a championship. He didn't want to be labelled as a ringless great. Kobe played side kick in 99-00. Shaq even tells a story of how Kobe stepped up when Shaq fouled out in the finals against the Pacer.
- Shaq gets lazy because he finally has won one
- Shaq isn't in shape; therefore, allowing Kobe to get opportunities to showcase his talent (He's putting up 30-40)
- Shaq finally works his way into shape and Phil tells Kobe to take a step back in his progress (Kobe's heated)
- Kobe does the Jim Gray interview calling out Shaq for his laziness/being out of shape

A lot of the drama was caused by Shaq and his ego. Yes, Kobe had an ego too but Kobe was told to dial it back (so the offense can run through Shaq). As Kobe said, he worked his butt off in the gym to improve and had to take a step back to accommodate someone that should've been ready day one of the season. That's going bruise anyone's ego. Kobe will always get blame for getting Shaq traded but the interview highlights what went down. Shaq wanted money which Dr. Buss wasn't going to pay him. Even after years of not playing together, Kobe still did Shaq a solid by giving Shareef the award. Shaq put Kobe through a lot of unnecessary things.
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Post#19 » by Bball_Truth » Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:26 pm

dan-man wrote:
Bball_Truth wrote:Batman apologizes to Robin!


Robin has more rings than Batman? Uhhh, no.


Robin would have had even more rings if he did not force Batman to leave!
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Post#20 » by DCRYsing89 » Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:45 pm

Bball_Truth wrote:Batman apologizes to Robin!


Then Robin became one of the best batmen ever and scared many a coaches nightly,
After your first, you change, you mature, you dont just jump into things.

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