NBA, NBPA Could End One-And-Done Rule For 2020 Draft

[RealGM Wiretap]

The earliest the NBA will be able to change the one-and-done rule is for the 2020 NBA Draft.

The NBA and NBPA have held conversations centered on the elimination of the rule, which took effect for the 2006 NBA Draft.

Support has grown in recent years amongst many circles for the rule to be eliminated.

The growth of the G League over the past 10-plus years will help the NBA absorb more players.

Via Adrian Wojnarowski/ESPN

[JimmyJammer]

How about letting players come to the NBA right after High School, but make the first year or the first two years of the contract non-guaranteed or partially guaranteed? However, rookies who come from the college route will get guaranteed rookie contracts. This way, everyone benefits.

[BigTex]

How about letting players come to the NBA right after High School, but make the first year or the first two years of the contract non-guaranteed or partially guaranteed? However, rookies who come from the college route will get guaranteed rookie contracts. This way, everyone benefits.

How on earth will that end the exploitation of players? That exploits them even more by forcing them to give up the most valuable thing that first round draftees get, and essentially receive nothing in return. Those who WOULD receive guaranteed contracts under your proposal would get them under the old system, already, unless you propose giving them to second round college draftees who now don't receive guaranteed contracts. If you do that, nobody will draft college players in the second round and it will become a crap shoot on high school players willing to bypass college who wouldn't have been drafted and who will now go pro and not go to college. I guess that's a slight improvement for 30 guys, but it's very temporary as most will never make it and will get no college education.

[LiSTWithLani]

As a Raptors fan, our franchise could have been very different today without this awful rule. Guys still bust, even out of college. Maybe we would have had Oden or Durant instead of Bargnani with the 1st pick in the draft... Revisionist history I guess.

[dice]

make it 6 and done. better for colleges, nba, the fans...everyone but the players!

[dice]

As a Raptors fan, our franchise could have been very different today without this awful rule. Guys still bust, even out of college. Maybe we would have had Oden or Durant instead of Bargnani with the 1st pick in the draft... Revisionist history I guess.

oden was consensus #1 recruit out of HS, so you would have taken him and your franchise wouldn't be any better off

[CelticsWin5]

There is no such thing as a "one and done" rule. You do not need to go through 1 year of college or professionally overseas to enter in the nba draft, you just have to be 19. (see mitchell robinson for example)

There is Only an rule of age eligibility requirement. The article doesn't make it clear whether the age limit would be lower or higher.

[nedleeds]

There's no such thing as college exploitation either, most are being paid anyway and they DON'T actually have to go. A high school star can right now play in the G League. Or overseas. But they want the stage a D1 school provides, and free ride for the classes they are skipping and food and cash payouts from agents.

[Kurosawa0]

How about letting players come to the NBA right after High School, but make the first year or the first two years of the contract non-guaranteed or partially guaranteed? However, rookies who come from the college route will get guaranteed rookie contracts. This way, everyone benefits.

The players union would never agree to that.

[Am2626]

There's no such thing as college exploitation either, most are being paid anyway and they DON'T actually have to go. A high school star can right now play in the G League. Or overseas. But they want the stage a D1 school provides, and free ride for the classes they are skipping and food and cash payouts from agents.

The solution to this problem is to allow college players to profit from their names and likeness. Similar to what Olympic Athletes do. There is no reason why they shouldn’t be allowed to do this. The money wouldn’t be coming from the colleges so it wouldn’t cut into their profits.

Getting rid of the one and done rule is not the answer. The NBA is already diluted with projects that should be developing in a college environment. If anything the age limit should be raised to 20 with the expectation that the star athletes can make money off endorsements and their name.

[Wonderllama]

Kids straight out of high school seem more likely to bust than college kids. I think teams are going to take a cautious approach, especially at the very top of the draft.

[nedleeds]

There's no such thing as college exploitation either, most are being paid anyway and they DON'T actually have to go. A high school star can right now play in the G League. Or overseas. But they want the stage a D1 school provides, and free ride for the classes they are skipping and food and cash payouts from agents.

The solution to this problem is to allow college players to profit from their names and likeness. Similar to what Olympic Athletes do. There is no reason why they shouldn’t be allowed to do this. The money wouldn’t be coming from the colleges so it wouldn’t cut into their profits.

Getting rid of the one and done rule is not the answer. The NBA is already diluted with projects that should be developing in a college environment. If anything the age limit should be raised to 20 with the expectation that the star athletes can make money off endorsements and their name.

Sure they can. They can go from High School to the G League, or China, or Lithuania. They make a choice to go to D1. As we're finding out they are paid 50-100k.

[Am2626]

There's no such thing as college exploitation either, most are being paid anyway and they DON'T actually have to go. A high school star can right now play in the G League. Or overseas. But they want the stage a D1 school provides, and free ride for the classes they are skipping and food and cash payouts from agents.

The solution to this problem is to allow college players to profit from their names and likeness. Similar to what Olympic Athletes do. There is no reason why they shouldn’t be allowed to do this. The money wouldn’t be coming from the colleges so it wouldn’t cut into their profits.

Getting rid of the one and done rule is not the answer. The NBA is already diluted with projects that should be developing in a college environment. If anything the age limit should be raised to 20 with the expectation that the star athletes can make money off endorsements and their name.

Sure they can. They can go from High School to the G League, or China, or Lithuania. They make a choice to go to D1. As we're finding out they are paid 50-100k.

My point is that D1 shouldn’t have the right to restrict whether a college athlete can make money off of their name. D1 is not paying anything to them and what’s worst is that they are profiting at the expense of the college athlete. It’s immoral and probably illegal. In a free market society restrictions like this shouldn’t be allowed. College students can do paid internships, Star in plays, etc. How is this any different?

As you mentioned D1 provides the best stage and environment for them. Losing One and done players can’t be good for the NCAA either from a revenue generation perspective.

[ripwesternny]

I never saw the point of the NBA raising the minimum age to enter from 18 to 19. That rule change created the one and done effect. I think one extra year makes little difference at that age and either way has led to a lot of busts in the NBA. I still think an 18 Year old should have the right to declare and a team should have the right to invest in that player knowing its a large risk/reward. It would be nice to see the college game have committed players who can compete for years and develop. I say just get rid of the rule or allow high schoolers to declare and have to play at least one year in the G league? This will still not change that many Freshman will declare anyway.

[LiSTWithLani]

I have no idea why drafting a guy out of high school is frowned upon. Yes, it's less of a sure thing, that's why somebody is paid a lot of money to try and predict that. If he's talented, he'll thrive.
Case in point:
Kevin Garnett
Jermaine O'Neal
Tracy McGrady
Kobe Bryant
LeBron James
Shawn Kemp
Moses Malone
Amare Stoudemire
Al Harrington
Rashard Lewis
Tyson Chandler
Josh Smith
Shaun Livingston
Andrew Bynum
Monta Ellis
JR Smith
Dwight Howard
Daryl Dawkins
Travis Outlaw
Al Jefferson
Travis Outlaw
Martell Webster
Andray Blatche
Louuu Williams
Amir Johnson
our very own CJ Miles

- - - - -

Darius Miles
Kwame Brown
Sebastian Telefair
Eddy Curry
Jonathan Bender
DeShawn Stevenson
Desagana Diop
Ndudi Ebi
Robert Swift


It's an imperfect science, but those guys on the top list are players, heck most of the guys below are too - only, they were picked too early.

[ChokeFasncists]

As a Raptors fan, our franchise could have been very different today without this awful rule. Guys still bust, even out of college. Maybe we would have had Oden or Durant instead of Bargnani with the 1st pick in the draft... Revisionist history I guess.

Bennett.

OP: Just let colleges pay the athletes?

[Am2626]

I have no idea why drafting a guy out of high school is frowned upon. Yes, it's less of a sure thing, that's why somebody is paid a lot of money to try and predict that. If he's talented, he'll thrive.
Case in point:
Kevin Garnett
Jermaine O'Neal
Tracy McGrady
Kobe Bryant
LeBron James
Shawn Kemp
Moses Malone
Amare Stoudemire
Al Harrington
Rashard Lewis
Tyson Chandler
Josh Smith
Shaun Livingston
Andrew Bynum
Monta Ellis
JR Smith
Dwight Howard
Daryl Dawkins
Travis Outlaw
Al Jefferson
Travis Outlaw
Martell Webster
Andray Blatche
Louuu Williams
Amir Johnson
our very own CJ Miles

- - - - -

Darius Miles
Kwame Brown
Sebastian Telefair
Eddy Curry
Jonathan Bender
DeShawn Stevenson
Desagana Diop
Ndudi Ebi
Robert Swift


It's an imperfect science, but those guys on the top list are players, heck most of the guys below are too - only, they were picked too early.

You’ve left out a lot of busts on your list. I’ve listed them below. Also what’s to say that guys like Al Harrington, Martel Webster, or JR Smith would have been better NBA players had they gone to college for a few years? One could argue that they never reached their full potential because they didn’t develop or transition well in their first few years in the NBA instead of leading a college team in a less competitive environment. College helps you develop good skills and how to be a professional. A lot of high school players are not disciplined and are too raw.

Then you look at guys like Tracy McGrady and Jermaine O’Neal that had their bodies break down in their early 30’s. That’s what happens when you take an 18 year old kid playing 25-30 high school games and then have them play 82 games the next year. College would have allowed for their bodies to not have taken that kind of beating early on which would have prolonged their NBA careers.

Additional Busts:

Korleone Young
James Lang
Leon Smith
Travis Outlaw
Taj McDavid
Ousmane Cisse
Dorell Wright
Ricky Sanchez
Amir Johnson
Jackie Butler

[LiSTWithLani]

I have no idea why drafting a guy out of high school is frowned upon. Yes, it's less of a sure thing, that's why somebody is paid a lot of money to try and predict that. If he's talented, he'll thrive.
Case in point:
Kevin Garnett
Jermaine O'Neal
Tracy McGrady
Kobe Bryant
LeBron James
Shawn Kemp
Moses Malone
Amare Stoudemire
Al Harrington
Rashard Lewis
Tyson Chandler
Josh Smith
Shaun Livingston
Andrew Bynum
Monta Ellis
JR Smith
Dwight Howard
Daryl Dawkins
Travis Outlaw
Al Jefferson
Travis Outlaw
Martell Webster
Andray Blatche
Louuu Williams
Amir Johnson
our very own CJ Miles

- - - - -

Darius Miles
Kwame Brown
Sebastian Telefair
Eddy Curry
Jonathan Bender
DeShawn Stevenson
Desagana Diop
Ndudi Ebi
Robert Swift


It's an imperfect science, but those guys on the top list are players, heck most of the guys below are too - only, they were picked too early.

You’ve left out a lot of busts on your list. I’ve listed them below. Also what’s to say that guys like Al Harrington, Martel Webster, or JR Smith would have been better NBA players had they gone to college for a few years? One could argue that they never reached their full potential because they didn’t develop or transition well in their first few years in the NBA instead of leading a college team in a less competitive environment. College helps you develop good skills and how to be a professional. A lot of high school players are not disciplined and are too raw.

Then you look at guys like Tracy McGrady and Jermaine O’Neal that had their bodies break down in their early 30’s. That’s what happens when you take an 18 year old kid playing 25-30 high school games and then have them play 82 games the next year. College would have allowed for their bodies to not have taken that kind of beating early on which would have prolonged their NBA careers.

Additional Busts:

Korleone Young
James Lang
Leon Smith
Travis Outlaw
Taj McDavid
Ousmane Cisse
Dorell Wright
Ricky Sanchez
Amir Johnson
Jackie Butler

The three bolded guys are not busts. Also, what you suggested is pure speculation. Perhaps their bodies broke down, because age isn't as important as mileage? Also, the likelihood of someone being a bust has to be at least similar to a player that has attended college.

There are rules that could be in place that would allow a player to sign with an agent, but if undrafted go to (back) school the next year. The point that I was making was that you can certainly still be a good player if you were selected out of high school.