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Tristan Thompson Fined $25,000, Flagrant 2 Downgraded 

Post#1 » by RealGM Wiretap » Sat Jun 2, 2018 1:52 pm

Tristan Thompson has been fined $25,000 for failing to leave the court in a timely manner following his ejection and for shoving the basketball in the face of Draymond Green.


The incident occurred with 2.6 seconds remaining in overtime of the Warriors’ 124-114 win over the Cavaliers on Thursday, May 31 at Oracle Arena. 


Thompson’s Flagrant 2, which was assessed for his actions in contesting a jump shot by Warriors guard Shaun Livingston, was downgraded to a Flagrant 1 upon league office review. The foul occurred directly prior to Thompson’s interaction with Green.

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Re: Tristan Thompson Fined $25,000, Flagrant 2 Downgraded 

Post#2 » by t-rexCity » Sat Jun 2, 2018 2:58 pm

My grandma can officiate better. Game 1 was a complete cluster f*ck. Refs are way over their heads
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Post#3 » by Hoopzilla » Sat Jun 2, 2018 3:38 pm

If the flagrant 2 was downgraded, then he should have been assessed a technical for the scurmish with Green. The reason they didn't give him any penalty for the Green incident is because they said Thompson was already ejected. The downgraded foul means he was not ejected, therefore, addressing his actions with Green is now the appropriate measure. He did not "fail to leave the court, he got into an altercation with Green, massive difference between hitting someone and not walking off the court in an appropriate amount of time.

Just another example of the league doing what they can to help Lebron, memories of 2016 all over again. Otherwise Thompson would have been assessed a flagrant for the Green incident and been suspended, as is appropriate for this situation. Two separate incidents worthy of technical fouls in less than two minutes on the floor shows he was not in control of himself in any way and discipline is required to address that behaviour. Green obviously didn't say anything over the line or I am sure you would have seen a few heads turn towards him in shock. He just got under Thompson's skin and Thompson reacted poorly.
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Re: Tristan Thompson Fined $25,000, Flagrant 2 Downgraded 

Post#4 » by alienpick » Sat Jun 2, 2018 3:39 pm

Fine the Refs as well!
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Post#5 » by likashing » Sat Jun 2, 2018 6:23 pm

So he paid $25k to hit Draymond’s head? No tech on that incident either. Is that $25k paid to Draymond or the NBA?

So for a $25k fee we can hit his douche face back next game?

No Love suspension. Slight slap on the wrist on TT. The NBA is in full force once again to help the Queen out.
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Re: Tristan Thompson Fined $25,000, Flagrant 2 Downgraded 

Post#6 » by Pickled Prunes » Sat Jun 2, 2018 6:35 pm

likashing wrote:So he paid $25k to hit Draymond’s head? No tech on that incident either. Is that $25k paid to Draymond or the NBA?

So for a $25k fee we can hit his douche face back next game?

No Love suspension. Slight slap on the wrist on TT. The NBA is in full force once again to help the Queen out.

You're right... but I don't think it's to help out Lebron... it's to line their pockets. Nobody benefits from a sweep, including GSW players who benefit from any additional BRI.

During the regular season those are both suspensions.The Love part is due to a ludicrous rule. But TT hit Draymond in the face... after he was ejected! No way that isn't a suspension on any other day! (He should not have been ejected in the first place, but that is a different argument.)
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Re: Tristan Thompson Fined $25,000, Flagrant 2 Downgraded 

Post#7 » by ChokeFasncists » Sat Jun 2, 2018 6:52 pm

Hoopzilla wrote:If the flagrant 2 was downgraded, then he should have been assessed a technical for the scurmish with Green. The reason they didn't give him any penalty for the Green incident is because they said Thompson was already ejected. The downgraded foul means he was not ejected, therefore, addressing his actions with Green is now the appropriate measure. He did not "fail to leave the court, he got into an altercation with Green, massive difference between hitting someone and not walking off the court in an appropriate amount of time.

Just another example of the league doing what they can to help Lebron, memories of 2016 all over again. Otherwise Thompson would have been assessed a flagrant for the Green incident and been suspended, as is appropriate for this situation. Two separate incidents worthy of technical fouls in less than two minutes on the floor shows he was not in control of himself in any way and discipline is required to address that behaviour. Green obviously didn't say anything over the line or I am sure you would have seen a few heads turn towards him in shock. He just got under Thompson's skin and Thompson reacted poorly.

Make up call.

What's strange is that in game 1, the refs were clearly against the Cavs, out of the ordinarily.

Maybe it's gambling? Or they're gonna be helping the Cavs hereafter? Not sure it's wise to create this kinda Donaghy/WWE storyline.

The "skirmish" with Green wasn't that serious. If he had thrown a punch or pushed him hard it would have been totally different.
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Re: Tristan Thompson Fined $25,000, Flagrant 2 Downgraded 

Post#8 » by tigerae » Sat Jun 2, 2018 7:16 pm

While we are at it, where is Green's tech for taunting with his douchy smile and clapping in TTs face prior to the push with the ball?!?

Also, the ruling is correct for Love. He should not be suspended. Rule states that if you leave the bench during a confrontation, he was already on the floor before it started, either to check in for TT or to argue the flagrant 2 call and stepped back out during. Had he stepped in once it started or went towards it then yes, he would have been suspended but he technically didn't break the rule since he was already on the court and went off of it once it started.
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Re: Tristan Thompson Fined $25,000, Flagrant 2 Downgraded 

Post#9 » by dice » Sat Jun 2, 2018 7:37 pm

ChokeFasncists wrote:
Hoopzilla wrote:If the flagrant 2 was downgraded, then he should have been assessed a technical for the scurmish with Green. The reason they didn't give him any penalty for the Green incident is because they said Thompson was already ejected. The downgraded foul means he was not ejected, therefore, addressing his actions with Green is now the appropriate measure. He did not "fail to leave the court, he got into an altercation with Green, massive difference between hitting someone and not walking off the court in an appropriate amount of time.

Just another example of the league doing what they can to help Lebron, memories of 2016 all over again. Otherwise Thompson would have been assessed a flagrant for the Green incident and been suspended, as is appropriate for this situation. Two separate incidents worthy of technical fouls in less than two minutes on the floor shows he was not in control of himself in any way and discipline is required to address that behaviour. Green obviously didn't say anything over the line or I am sure you would have seen a few heads turn towards him in shock. He just got under Thompson's skin and Thompson reacted poorly.

Make up call.

What's strange is that in game 1, the refs were clearly against the Cavs, out of the ordinarily.

Maybe it's gambling? Or they're gonna be helping the Cavs hereafter? Not sure it's wise to create this kinda Donaghy/WWE storyline.

The "skirmish" with Green wasn't that serious. If he had thrown a punch or pushed him hard it would have been totally different.

what's clearly happening is that the league wants a competitive series and are thus going light on thompson and love (though in a fair world love is not penalized). what's NOT happening, and what has NEVER happened, is the league risking its public integrity by suggesting favoritism to its officials
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Post#10 » by wa7hnaussksjst » Sat Jun 2, 2018 8:59 pm

Barkley will pay that fine.
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Post#11 » by likashing » Sat Jun 2, 2018 9:00 pm

tigerae wrote:While we are at it, where is Green's tech for taunting with his douchy smile and clapping in TTs face prior to the push with the ball?!?


TT hit an opponent’s head for no tech and $25k. What do you want? Fine Green 50 bucks for clapping?

This is a kids league now?
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Post#12 » by Fido » Sat Jun 2, 2018 9:21 pm

lol at Warriors fans saying no suspensions for the Cavs is evidence the league is helping out the Cavs. All these crappy calls went in the Warriors' favor to begin with. :lol:
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Post#13 » by oaktownwarriors87 » Sun Jun 3, 2018 3:01 am

Fido wrote:lol at Warriors fans saying no suspensions for the Cavs is evidence the league is helping out the Cavs. All these crappy calls went in the Warriors' favor to begin with. :lol:


Draymond got suspended for almost hitting LeBron in the balls, right after LeBron intentionally t-bagged him.

Thompson hit Draymond in the face when he wasn't even supposed to be on the floor.

I'm not saying they are helping the Cavs, the NBA is just CRAZY inconsistent.
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Re: Tristan Thompson Fined $25,000, Flagrant 2 Downgraded 

Post#14 » by ChokeFasncists » Sun Jun 3, 2018 5:08 am

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ChokeFasncists wrote:
Hoopzilla wrote:If the flagrant 2 was downgraded, then he should have been assessed a technical for the scurmish with Green. The reason they didn't give him any penalty for the Green incident is because they said Thompson was already ejected. The downgraded foul means he was not ejected, therefore, addressing his actions with Green is now the appropriate measure. He did not "fail to leave the court, he got into an altercation with Green, massive difference between hitting someone and not walking off the court in an appropriate amount of time.

Just another example of the league doing what they can to help Lebron, memories of 2016 all over again. Otherwise Thompson would have been assessed a flagrant for the Green incident and been suspended, as is appropriate for this situation. Two separate incidents worthy of technical fouls in less than two minutes on the floor shows he was not in control of himself in any way and discipline is required to address that behaviour. Green obviously didn't say anything over the line or I am sure you would have seen a few heads turn towards him in shock. He just got under Thompson's skin and Thompson reacted poorly.

Make up call.

What's strange is that in game 1, the refs were clearly against the Cavs, out of the ordinarily.

Maybe it's gambling? Or they're gonna be helping the Cavs hereafter? Not sure it's wise to create this kinda Donaghy/WWE storyline.

The "skirmish" with Green wasn't that serious. If he had thrown a punch or pushed him hard it would have been totally different.

what's clearly happening is that the league wants a competitive series and are thus going light on thompson and love (though in a fair world love is not penalized). what's NOT happening, and what has NEVER happened, is the league risking its public integrity by suggesting favoritism to its officials

If the league wants a competitive series why would they help the better team? Isn't this quite strange? Unless they're determined to be helping the Cavs for many games after this.
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Post#15 » by dice » Sun Jun 3, 2018 5:27 am

ChokeFasncists wrote:
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ChokeFasncists wrote:Make up call.

What's strange is that in game 1, the refs were clearly against the Cavs, out of the ordinarily.

Maybe it's gambling? Or they're gonna be helping the Cavs hereafter? Not sure it's wise to create this kinda Donaghy/WWE storyline.

The "skirmish" with Green wasn't that serious. If he had thrown a punch or pushed him hard it would have been totally different.

what's clearly happening is that the league wants a competitive series and are thus going light on thompson and love (though in a fair world love is not penalized). what's NOT happening, and what has NEVER happened, is the league risking its public integrity by suggesting favoritism to its officials

If the league wants a competitive series why would they help the better team? Isn't this quite strange? Unless they're determined to be helping the Cavs for many games after this.

they're not helping or hurting anyone during the game. the calls just happened to go against the cavs in the waning minutes
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Post#16 » by Hoopzilla » Sun Jun 3, 2018 2:06 pm

tigerae wrote:While we are at it, where is Green's tech for taunting with his douchy smile and clapping in TTs face prior to the push with the ball?!?

Also, the ruling is correct for Love. He should not be suspended. Rule states that if you leave the bench during a confrontation, he was already on the floor before it started, either to check in for TT or to argue the flagrant 2 call and stepped back out during. Had he stepped in once it started or went towards it then yes, he would have been suspended but he technically didn't break the rule since he was already on the court and went off of it once it started.


There is no rule saying you can't use words or clap your hands on a basketball court. You call it taunting, Draymond calls it being enthusiastic. Draymond is totally within his rights to clap his hands and say something as a player walks by. Sticks and stones...

Also, I am not aware of a rule that let's a player walk into the court to argue a call, that is the coach's job. Players are to remain on the bench unless they are playing. You are either on the court as a player or you are on the court illegally, there is no grey area here.
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Post#17 » by Hoopzilla » Sun Jun 3, 2018 2:19 pm

ChokeFasncists wrote:
Hoopzilla wrote:If the flagrant 2 was downgraded, then he should have been assessed a technical for the scurmish with Green. The reason they didn't give him any penalty for the Green incident is because they said Thompson was already ejected. The downgraded foul means he was not ejected, therefore, addressing his actions with Green is now the appropriate measure. He did not "fail to leave the court, he got into an altercation with Green, massive difference between hitting someone and not walking off the court in an appropriate amount of time.

Just another example of the league doing what they can to help Lebron, memories of 2016 all over again. Otherwise Thompson would have been assessed a flagrant for the Green incident and been suspended, as is appropriate for this situation. Two separate incidents worthy of technical fouls in less than two minutes on the floor shows he was not in control of himself in any way and discipline is required to address that behaviour. Green obviously didn't say anything over the line or I am sure you would have seen a few heads turn towards him in shock. He just got under Thompson's skin and Thompson reacted poorly.

Make up call.

What's strange is that in game 1, the refs were clearly against the Cavs, out of the ordinarily.

Maybe it's gambling? Or they're gonna be helping the Cavs hereafter? Not sure it's wise to create this kinda Donaghy/WWE storyline.

The "skirmish" with Green wasn't that serious. If he had thrown a punch or pushed him hard it would have been totally different.


TT's hand grazed Draymond's face. The ball made contact with his face. There is no way you can say someone made contact with another player's face, during a lapse in play, and that is okay. TT also obviously did this out of frustration. Fouls are made to address players that can't control themselves that hit other players in the face. This is not boxing...

On the next dead ball, Draymond can walk over to TT and smack him in the face and it is fair play? That is acceptable? No foul right? Cuz according to you, it is fair play to hit other people in the face when the game is not even being played... :crazy:
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Post#18 » by Hoopzilla » Sun Jun 3, 2018 2:24 pm

oaktownwarriors87 wrote:
Fido wrote:lol at Warriors fans saying no suspensions for the Cavs is evidence the league is helping out the Cavs. All these crappy calls went in the Warriors' favor to begin with. :lol:


Draymond got suspended for almost hitting LeBron in the balls, right after LeBron intentionally t-bagged him.

Thompson hit Draymond in the face when he wasn't even supposed to be on the floor.

I'm not saying they are helping the Cavs, the NBA is just CRAZY inconsistent.


Well, that just drove the point home pretty clearly. Draymond suspended for ALMOST hitting Lebron. TT is fine to hit Draymond in the face though. Cavs fans don't see anything wrong here... :crazy:
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Post#19 » by Jalen Bluntson » Sun Jun 3, 2018 2:44 pm

Hoopzilla wrote:
oaktownwarriors87 wrote:
Fido wrote:lol at Warriors fans saying no suspensions for the Cavs is evidence the league is helping out the Cavs. All these crappy calls went in the Warriors' favor to begin with. :lol:


Draymond got suspended for almost hitting LeBron in the balls, right after LeBron intentionally t-bagged him.

Thompson hit Draymond in the face when he wasn't even supposed to be on the floor.

I'm not saying they are helping the Cavs, the NBA is just CRAZY inconsistent.


Well, that just drove the point home pretty clearly. Draymond suspended for ALMOST hitting Lebron. TT is fine to hit Draymond in the face though. Cavs fans don't see anything wrong here... :crazy:


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Post#20 » by Hoopzilla » Sun Jun 3, 2018 2:56 pm

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Hoopzilla wrote:
oaktownwarriors87 wrote:
Draymond got suspended for almost hitting LeBron in the balls, right after LeBron intentionally t-bagged him.

Thompson hit Draymond in the face when he wasn't even supposed to be on the floor.

I'm not saying they are helping the Cavs, the NBA is just CRAZY inconsistent.


Well, that just drove the point home pretty clearly. Draymond suspended for ALMOST hitting Lebron. TT is fine to hit Draymond in the face though. Cavs fans don't see anything wrong here... :crazy:


He's a Kardashian


So we understand where the "bitch" behaviour comes from then. It doesn't excuse it, it just gives context...

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