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GaaBaaBoo wrote:Parsons + No. 4 for KL

GaaBaaBoo wrote:Parsons + No. 4 for KL

GaaBaaBoo wrote:Parsons + No. 4 for KL

theclizzle wrote:

Fresh_Prince12 wrote:Cavs need to jump on this. Love would be a perfect trade

haha for sure. that 'help-keep-lebron-koolaid-mix'

bringinhinkie wrote:

CoolBreeze2222 wrote:Knicks get- Kyrie

Celtics get- #4
#36
Chandler Parsons

Memphis gets- #9
#27
2019 1st round pick returned from Celtics
Enes Kanter
Frank Ntilkina

celtics aint gonna do that .. you can't rebuild forever..

they are ready to compete .. kyrie will re-sign there - i see no reason why he wouldn't

the articles about him "coming to ny",etc are clickbait

Pickled Prunes wrote:

ChokeFasncists wrote:

Pickled Prunes wrote:Kevin Love
Facilitates the rebuild for CLE.
Gives MEM a boost before their current window closes. They don't have time to wait for a pick to develop.

Nice, Parsons can help them tank.

Maybe Love/Korver for Parsons/Harrison/no.4?

The Grizz surely has a good defensive identity.

The Cavs don't need Korver anymore for sure.

I think we may have found the rare "both teams win" trade scenario.

ChokeFasncists wrote:

Pickled Prunes wrote:

ChokeFasncists wrote:Nice, Parsons can help them tank.

Maybe Love/Korver for Parsons/Harrison/no.4?

The Grizz surely has a good defensive identity.

The Cavs don't need Korver anymore for sure.

I think we may have found the rare "both teams win" trade scenario.

Nice, maybe the Cavs then use the 4th to offload TT and JR?

gordoncatrell wrote:

ChokeFasncists wrote:

Pickled Prunes wrote:I think we may have found the rare "both teams win" trade scenario.

Nice, maybe the Cavs then use the 4th to offload TT and JR?

Odd how BronInc craters a team with his 1+1 hostage deals.
youre left hoping to swing a Parsons/Love deal.
wow.

dice wrote:

gordoncatrell wrote:

ChokeFasncists wrote:Nice, maybe the Cavs then use the 4th to offload TT and JR?

Odd how BronInc craters a team with his 1+1 hostage deals.
youre left hoping to swing a Parsons/Love deal.
wow.

how does a 1+1 "crater" a team any more than a long term deal would?

gordoncatrell wrote:

dice wrote:

gordoncatrell wrote:
Odd how BronInc craters a team with his 1+1 hostage deals.
youre left hoping to swing a Parsons/Love deal.
wow.

how does a 1+1 "crater" a team any more than a long term deal would?

BronInc 1+1 are more damaging than other 1s. although he's tech a player, his "Partners" are agency owners(reps players, coaches, execs) and hold sway over FOs.
major conflict of interest.
craters teams w overbid contracts of players who are SPECIFIC to him.

take BronInc off CLE and put Steph in there, CLE would sink.

gordoncatrell wrote:This guy is the biggest thief in modern NBA history.
TWO! MAX-ish-contracts!
His ego is absurd.
While writing this, the level of shock re his income actually making me admire his guts.

dice wrote:

gordoncatrell wrote:

dice wrote:how does a 1+1 "crater" a team any more than a long term deal would?

BronInc 1+1 are more damaging than other 1s. although he's tech a player, his "Partners" are agency owners(reps players, coaches, execs) and hold sway over FOs.
major conflict of interest.
craters teams w overbid contracts of players who are SPECIFIC to him.

none of which would be any different if he were on a long-term deal. they still would've given j.r. smith that deal, they still would've given TT that deal, they still would have traded for/signed kevin love long-term, etc. etc.

it's not like he demanded the long-term j.r. and TT deals and then left town a year later

take BronInc off CLE and put Steph in there, CLE would sink.

take any superstar off a team that has been built around him (and they all are) and the team will fare worse when a dissimilar superstar is suddenly inserted in his place

dice wrote:

gordoncatrell wrote:This guy is the biggest thief in modern NBA history.
TWO! MAX-ish-contracts!
His ego is absurd.
While writing this, the level of shock re his income actually making me admire his guts.

his ego? EVERY player takes as much money as they can get

TomShoe wrote:

GaaBaaBoo wrote:Parsons + No. 4 for KL

LOL! In your dreams fam. Still, I wouldn't be above taking on Parson's **** contract since we'll be rebuilding anyway.

gordoncatrell wrote:

dice wrote:

gordoncatrell wrote:
BronInc 1+1 are more damaging than other 1s. although he's tech a player, his "Partners" are agency owners(reps players, coaches, execs) and hold sway over FOs.
major conflict of interest.
craters teams w overbid contracts of players who are SPECIFIC to him.

none of which would be any different if he were on a long-term deal. they still would've given j.r. smith that deal, they still would've given TT that deal, they still would have traded for/signed kevin love long-term, etc. etc.

it's not like he demanded the long-term j.r. and TT deals and then left town a year later

take BronInc off CLE and put Steph in there, CLE would sink.

take any superstar off a team that has been built around him (and they all are) and the team will fare worse when a dissimilar superstar is suddenly inserted in his place

no one was bidding TT JR that level of $/Yrs. CLE wouldnt have done it if not held hostage.

a LONGTERM BronInc deal would keep him bundled with his paid for handpicked roster.

unlikely Love would be there. highly unlikely.

BronInc is a GENIUS. he understands numbers/narrative and leverage.
he demanded the TT JR deals and leaving town two yrs later.

pt 2:
IND. bye PG. they look fine.
BOS. by IT. incoming Ky. looks fine.
why? FO didnt succumb to leverage.

dice wrote:

gordoncatrell wrote:

dice wrote:none of which would be any different if he were on a long-term deal. they still would've given j.r. smith that deal, they still would've given TT that deal, they still would have traded for/signed kevin love long-term, etc. etc.

it's not like he demanded the long-term j.r. and TT deals and then left town a year later


take any superstar off a team that has been built around him (and they all are) and the team will fare worse when a dissimilar superstar is suddenly inserted in his place

no one was bidding TT JR that level of $/Yrs. CLE wouldnt have done it if not held hostage.

them being held hostage had ZERO to do with the length of LeBron's deal. in fact, they were MORE likely to do it if lebron was committed well into the future

WRONG. agree to disagree. youre digging into your position. fine.

a LONGTERM BronInc deal would keep him bundled with his paid for handpicked roster.

has nothing to do with whether they make the deals or not

WRONG. realize how much reach BronInc/CAA&Partners have in all franchises.

unlikely Love would be there. highly unlikely.

what in holy hell are you talking about?! if lebron was there long-term they WOULDN'T have signed love long term? that makes no sense. again, if anything they were MORE likely to sign him long-term with the understanding that lebron would be around a while. the 1+1 surely made them squeamish about giving long-term deals to the supporting cast. they held out for quite a while before giving TT big money. they probably would have maxed him out immediately if lebron was on a 5 year deal

WRONG. Org prob favored keeping Wiggins. was forced into LOVE by BronInc orchestrating. if BronInc signed longterm ahead of trade. no Love.

BronInc is a GENIUS. he understands numbers/narrative and leverage.
he demanded the TT JR deals and leaving town two yrs later.

he is leaving 3 years into TT's 5 year deal. the cavs likely still would have done that even if they KNEW lebron would be leaving in 3 years. would they have given j.r. the same 4 year deal the following season? maybe not

and it doesn't even require an average IQ to understand that if you're the best player in basketball you have a lot of leverage when it comes to the rest of the roster

WRONG: you pay what market will pay. TT and JR sat out bc they wanted more $/yrs, NOT bc another team bid it up. who swayed/forced CLE FO to pay it? im sure the flow chart leads back to BronInc.

pt 2:
IND. bye PG. they look fine.
BOS. by IT. incoming Ky. looks fine.
why? FO didnt succumb to leverage.

PG and IT are not lebron james. they had no leverage

WRONG: the answer was a direct reply to your statement that ALL team stars leave a crater when exiting.

if you want a great example of a FO that didn't buckle to an actual superstar's demands look at jerry krause's bulls. krause traded his best friend charles oakley, ticked him off by hyping kukoc and famously said "organizations win championships"

gordoncatrell wrote:

dice wrote:

gordoncatrell wrote:
no one was bidding TT JR that level of $/Yrs. CLE wouldnt have done it if not held hostage.

them being held hostage had ZERO to do with the length of LeBron's deal. in fact, they were MORE likely to do it if lebron was committed well into the future

WRONG. agree to disagree. youre digging into your position. fine.

a LONGTERM BronInc deal would keep him bundled with his paid for handpicked roster.

has nothing to do with whether they make the deals or not

WRONG. realize how much reach BronInc/CAA&Partners have in all franchises.

unlikely Love would be there. highly unlikely.

what in holy hell are you talking about?! if lebron was there long-term they WOULDN'T have signed love long term? that makes no sense. again, if anything they were MORE likely to sign him long-term with the understanding that lebron would be around a while. the 1+1 surely made them squeamish about giving long-term deals to the supporting cast. they held out for quite a while before giving TT big money. they probably would have maxed him out immediately if lebron was on a 5 year deal

WRONG. Org prob favored keeping Wiggins. was forced into LOVE by BronInc orchestrating. if BronInc signed longterm ahead of trade. no Love.

BronInc is a GENIUS. he understands numbers/narrative and leverage.
he demanded the TT JR deals and leaving town two yrs later.

he is leaving 3 years into TT's 5 year deal. the cavs likely still would have done that even if they KNEW lebron would be leaving in 3 years. would they have given j.r. the same 4 year deal the following season? maybe not

and it doesn't even require an average IQ to understand that if you're the best player in basketball you have a lot of leverage when it comes to the rest of the roster

WRONG: you pay what market will pay. TT and JR sat out bc they wanted more $/yrs, NOT bc another team bid it up. who swayed/forced CLE FO to pay it? im sure the flow chart leads back to BronInc.

pt 2:
IND. bye PG. they look fine.
BOS. by IT. incoming Ky. looks fine.
why? FO didnt succumb to leverage.

PG and IT are not lebron james. they had no leverage

WRONG: the answer was a direct reply to your statement that ALL team stars leave a crater when exiting.

if you want a great example of a FO that didn't buckle to an actual superstar's demands look at jerry krause's bulls. krause traded his best friend charles oakley, ticked him off by hyping kukoc and famously said "organizations win championships"

Michael "took time off to play baseball" Jordan. lol. cute MJ narrative. im sure the truth is a bit less marketable.