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Post#1 » by RealGM Wiretap » Wed Jul 11, 2018 12:45 pm

Rich Paul admitted it is difficult to pinpoint a primary motive for LeBron James to decide he wanted to sign with the Los Angeles Lakers.


"In 2010, when he went to Miami, it was about championships," Paul said. "In 2014, when he went back to Cleveland, it was about delivering on a promise. In 2018, it was just about doing what he wants to do."


James had been leaning towards Los Angeles for days.


Paul rejects the explanations that James joined the Lakers to expand his businesses in the entertainment field or to create a new superteam overnight.

Via Lee Jenkins/Sports Illustrated

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Post#2 » by Sam195 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:21 pm

If 2014 was about keeping promises he should have resigned with the Miami Heat or did Lebron and his cronies forget about not 1, not 2....... not 7. Buddy basically implied 8 titles and only delivered two. He owes us 6 more but like a bad contractor abandoned us in the middle of the job. I give some blame to Pat Riley he should never have given the big 3 opt outs on their 2010 contracts after 4 years he should have pushed for 5 which would make them meet the standard of an opt out just on the final year. I am 100% confident if Lebron stayed with the heat and Bosh didn't get the clots they would have beat the Warriors for the 2015 title and he would have resigned in Miami. And Miami with the nice weather and low taxes would have always been the most attractive place for the King to recruit role players and other stars to maintain contender status for the foreseeable future much longer than Cleveland. Also a Heat-Warriors rivalry would have been better television than a Cavs-Warriors rivalry.
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Sam195 wrote:If 2014 was about keeping promises he should have resigned with the Miami Heat or did Lebron and his cronies forget about not 1, not 2....... not 7. Buddy basically implied 8 titles and only delivered two. He owes us 6 more but like a bad contractor abandoned us in the middle of the job. I give some blame to Pat Riley he should never have given the big 3 opt outs on their 2010 contracts after 4 years he should have pushed for 5 which would make them meet the standard of an opt out just on the final year. I am 100% confident if Lebron stayed with the heat and Bosh didn't get the clots they would have beat the Warriors for the 2015 title and he would have resigned in Miami. And Miami with the nice weather and low taxes would have always been the most attractive place for the King to recruit role players and other stars to maintain contender status for the foreseeable future much longer than Cleveland. Also a Heat-Warriors rivalry would have been better television than a Cavs-Warriors rivalry.

LeBron owes Miami absolutely nothing.
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Post#4 » by Hoopzilla » Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:33 pm

2010 - was the first attempt at cherry picking... failed miserably. Runs with his tail between his legs after the Spurs laughed him off the court in historic fashion.
2014 - was about leeching off assets accumulated by his former team, hoping to cherry pick with younger players and have a bigger window for titles. The fact that is was his hometown just fit a narrative he tried to sell us so he wouldn't have to admit how pathetic he is.
2018 - is the third chapter in the cherry picking saga, only this time, no one wants to be his victim... voluntarily. He will have to wait until next year to find a sidekick, so Lebron fans will now try and say he is no longer cherry picking. They completely overlook the fact that he would have never gone there if they didn't have a young core of players and two max slots available. They just can't see it. :lol:

The only non-cherry picking move Lebron could have chosen would have been to stay in Cleveland and fix his mess and leave something sustainable behind for his hometown. That would have taken a spine and an ounce of mental fortitude, so it was never going to happen. :noway:

He went to LA for the off court opportunities and to cherry pick, period.
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Post#5 » by zimpy27 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:45 pm

Hoopzilla wrote:2010 - was the first attempt at cherry picking... failed miserably. Runs with his tail between his legs after the Spurs laughed him off the court in historic fashion.
2014 - was about leeching off assets accumulated by his former team, hoping to cherry pick with younger players and have a bigger window for titles. The fact that is was his hometown just fit a narrative he tried to sell us so he wouldn't have to admit how pathetic he is.
2018 - is the third chapter in the cherry picking saga, only this time, no one wants to be his victim... voluntarily. He will have to wait until next year to find a sidekick, so Lebron fans will now try and say he is no longer cherry picking. They completely overlook the fact that he would have never gone there if they didn't have a young core of players and two max slots available. They just can't see it. :lol:

The only non-cherry picking move Lebron could have chosen would have been to stay in Cleveland and fix his mess and leave something sustainable behind for his hometown. That would have taken a spine and an ounce of mental fortitude, so it was never going to happen. :noway:

He went to LA for the off court opportunities and to cherry pick, period.

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Post#6 » by DwayneSchintzus » Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:49 pm

Sam195 wrote:If 2014 was about keeping promises he should have resigned with the Miami Heat or did Lebron and his cronies forget about not 1, not 2....... not 7. Buddy basically implied 8 titles and only delivered two. He owes us 6 more but like a bad contractor abandoned us in the middle of the job. I give some blame to Pat Riley he should never have given the big 3 opt outs on their 2010 contracts after 4 years he should have pushed for 5 which would make them meet the standard of an opt out just on the final year. I am 100% confident if Lebron stayed with the heat and Bosh didn't get the clots they would have beat the Warriors for the 2015 title and he would have resigned in Miami. And Miami with the nice weather and low taxes would have always been the most attractive place for the King to recruit role players and other stars to maintain contender status for the foreseeable future much longer than Cleveland. Also a Heat-Warriors rivalry would have been better television than a Cavs-Warriors rivalry.


i just wanted to chime in and say youre the real mvp. i really enjoyed this esp the part about how he is a bad contractor leaving in the middle of a job :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post#7 » by Mwd1981 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:53 pm

LeBron was FA. Could go wherever he pleased. Fulfilled his contract, doesn’t owe anybody anything.

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Post#8 » by Sam195 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:54 pm

Hoopzilla wrote:2010 - was the first attempt at cherry picking... failed miserably. Runs with his tail between his legs after the Spurs laughed him off the court in historic fashion.
2014 - was about leeching off assets accumulated by his former team, hoping to cherry pick with younger players and have a bigger window for titles. The fact that is was his hometown just fit a narrative he tried to sell us so he wouldn't have to admit how pathetic he is.
2018 - is the third chapter in the cherry picking saga, only this time, no one wants to be his victim... voluntarily. He will have to wait until next year to find a sidekick, so Lebron fans will now try and say he is no longer cherry picking. They completely overlook the fact that he would have never gone there if they didn't have a young core of players and two max slots available. They just can't see it. :lol:

The only non-cherry picking move Lebron could have chosen would have been to stay in Cleveland and fix his mess and leave something sustainable behind for his hometown. That would have taken a spine and an ounce of mental fortitude, so it was never going to happen. :noway:

He went to LA for the off court opportunities and to cherry pick, period.


I don't think it is cherry picking if you choose to play in same division as Durant, Curry and the Warriors. I think he left Cleveland because he fulfilled his well thought promise of delivering one championship. And he wanted to leave the Cavs under Dan Gilbert's ownership in his prime so Gilbert doesn't profit off any further equity of having the league's top player on his franchise. Had Lebron signed a multi year contract to stay with Cavs - reports are Gilbert would have sold the team with Lebron's value baked in the price and there was never any guarantee the next owner would be as generous catering to Klutch Sports demands and writing large luxury tax cheques with Lebron playing into his late 30s. And Lebron and the Heat just seemed to have had an irreconcilable divorce the team neither planned to have the cap space to sign him this summer and he neither made any public comments that showed an interest of a reunion despite still owning a mansion in Miami and visiting the city in his down time the past few years to go training or chill with other celebs.
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Post#9 » by Jeff Van Gully » Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:57 pm

personal happiness is plenty, i suppose. nothing left to prove.
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Post#10 » by dan-man » Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:07 pm

Doesn't need anyone's approval. Glad he feels the freedom to go where he wants especially since I'm in LA. :crazy:
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Post#11 » by Hoopzilla » Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:20 pm

zimpy27 wrote:
Hoopzilla wrote:2010 - was the first attempt at cherry picking... failed miserably. Runs with his tail between his legs after the Spurs laughed him off the court in historic fashion.
2014 - was about leeching off assets accumulated by his former team, hoping to cherry pick with younger players and have a bigger window for titles. The fact that is was his hometown just fit a narrative he tried to sell us so he wouldn't have to admit how pathetic he is.
2018 - is the third chapter in the cherry picking saga, only this time, no one wants to be his victim... voluntarily. He will have to wait until next year to find a sidekick, so Lebron fans will now try and say he is no longer cherry picking. They completely overlook the fact that he would have never gone there if they didn't have a young core of players and two max slots available. They just can't see it. :lol:

The only non-cherry picking move Lebron could have chosen would have been to stay in Cleveland and fix his mess and leave something sustainable behind for his hometown. That would have taken a spine and an ounce of mental fortitude, so it was never going to happen. :noway:

He went to LA for the off court opportunities and to cherry pick, period.

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Post#12 » by Boneman2 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:26 pm

Rich Paul, the Tyronn Lue of agents.
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Post#13 » by JimmyJammer » Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:39 pm

That was well articulated by LeBron’s agent. I am not a LeBron’s guy, but I believe he has earned the right to chase personal and family satisfaction after being in the league for 15 years and after accomplishing all that he has. Let the man have his peace. He has been a great ambassador to the game and a great role model, especially to young African-Americans.
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Post#14 » by Hoopzilla » Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:40 pm

Sam195 wrote:
Hoopzilla wrote:2010 - was the first attempt at cherry picking... failed miserably. Runs with his tail between his legs after the Spurs laughed him off the court in historic fashion.
2014 - was about leeching off assets accumulated by his former team, hoping to cherry pick with younger players and have a bigger window for titles. The fact that is was his hometown just fit a narrative he tried to sell us so he wouldn't have to admit how pathetic he is.
2018 - is the third chapter in the cherry picking saga, only this time, no one wants to be his victim... voluntarily. He will have to wait until next year to find a sidekick, so Lebron fans will now try and say he is no longer cherry picking. They completely overlook the fact that he would have never gone there if they didn't have a young core of players and two max slots available. They just can't see it. :lol:

The only non-cherry picking move Lebron could have chosen would have been to stay in Cleveland and fix his mess and leave something sustainable behind for his hometown. That would have taken a spine and an ounce of mental fortitude, so it was never going to happen. :noway:

He went to LA for the off court opportunities and to cherry pick, period.


I don't think it is cherry picking if you choose to play in same division as Durant, Curry and the Warriors. I think he left Cleveland because he fulfilled his well thought promise of delivering one championship. And he wanted to leave the Cavs under Dan Gilbert's ownership in his prime so Gilbert doesn't profit off any further equity of having the league's top player on his franchise. Had Lebron signed a multi year contract to stay with Cavs - reports are Gilbert would have sold the team with Lebron's value baked in the price and there was never any guarantee the next owner would be as generous catering to Klutch Sports demands and writing large luxury tax cheques with Lebron playing into his late 30s. And Lebron and the Heat just seemed to have had an irreconcilable divorce the team neither planned to have the cap space to sign him this summer and he neither made any public comments that showed an interest of a reunion despite still owning a mansion in Miami and visiting the city in his down time the past few years to go training or chill with other celebs.


You're trying to move the goalposts here. You look at the team Lebron left and the team he joined, not the teams around him. :crazy:

As for your first few assertions, as you say, you think. You have no clue, so it makes sense to look at the pattern of behaviour rather than to speculate. When you walk away from your team and don't let them get anything in return and go to a team with plenty of assets and tonnes of cash, it is cherry picking. You are trying to make winning easier, it is the easy way out, especially when you do it three times in your career.

He never "fulfilled" a promise in Cleveland, he went back to leech off their assets. A promise would have been to stay the first time and deliver a title, not coming back to leech off of a team's unprecedented amount of number one picks and accumulated assets. :crazy: Are you seriously trying to tell me Lebron would have gone back if they didn't have Kyrie, Wiggins, TT and Waiters? He needed the players and assets so he could try to form another Super Team. You try to make it sound like he was going back to win them a title no matter what, if that were the case, he wouldn't have left in the first place. :lol:

Who cares what management would have done if Lebron stayed, that is nothing but an excuse. Because Lebron was not given assurances that the team would not be sold and if they were, that the new owner would have to bankrupt himself to prove his loyalty, that means Lebron should walk away from his hometown franchise and leave them for dead? I might agree with you if he waived his no-trade clause and let the Cavs have something for the future. It was a bitch move and nothing but.

Lebron ran away from the Heat to cherry pick off of Cleveland's assets because San Antonio ran the Heat off the court in historic fashion in 2014. Asserting anything different is just funny. He never had any interest in going back because they don't have the assets to leech off of there. If they had the assets and young players the Lakers did, he would be in Florida right now.
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Post#15 » by Mwd1981 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:44 pm

Hoopzilla wrote:
Sam195 wrote:
Hoopzilla wrote:2010 - was the first attempt at cherry picking... failed miserably. Runs with his tail between his legs after the Spurs laughed him off the court in historic fashion.
2014 - was about leeching off assets accumulated by his former team, hoping to cherry pick with younger players and have a bigger window for titles. The fact that is was his hometown just fit a narrative he tried to sell us so he wouldn't have to admit how pathetic he is.
2018 - is the third chapter in the cherry picking saga, only this time, no one wants to be his victim... voluntarily. He will have to wait until next year to find a sidekick, so Lebron fans will now try and say he is no longer cherry picking. They completely overlook the fact that he would have never gone there if they didn't have a young core of players and two max slots available. They just can't see it. :lol:

The only non-cherry picking move Lebron could have chosen would have been to stay in Cleveland and fix his mess and leave something sustainable behind for his hometown. That would have taken a spine and an ounce of mental fortitude, so it was never going to happen. :noway:

He went to LA for the off court opportunities and to cherry pick, period.


I don't think it is cherry picking if you choose to play in same division as Durant, Curry and the Warriors. I think he left Cleveland because he fulfilled his well thought promise of delivering one championship. And he wanted to leave the Cavs under Dan Gilbert's ownership in his prime so Gilbert doesn't profit off any further equity of having the league's top player on his franchise. Had Lebron signed a multi year contract to stay with Cavs - reports are Gilbert would have sold the team with Lebron's value baked in the price and there was never any guarantee the next owner would be as generous catering to Klutch Sports demands and writing large luxury tax cheques with Lebron playing into his late 30s. And Lebron and the Heat just seemed to have had an irreconcilable divorce the team neither planned to have the cap space to sign him this summer and he neither made any public comments that showed an interest of a reunion despite still owning a mansion in Miami and visiting the city in his down time the past few years to go training or chill with other celebs.


You're trying to move the goalposts here. You look at the team Lebron left and the team he joined, not the teams around him. :crazy:

As for your first few assertions, as you say, you think. You have no clue, so it makes sense to look at the pattern of behaviour rather than to speculate. When you walk away from your team and don't let them get anything in return and go to a team with plenty of assets and tonnes of cash, it is cherry picking. You are trying to make winning easier, it is the easy way out, especially when you do it three times in your career.

He never "fulfilled" a promise in Cleveland, he went back to leech off their assets. A promise would have been to stay the first time and deliver a title, not coming back to leech off of a team's unprecedented amount of number one picks and accumulated assets. :crazy: Are you seriously trying to tell me Lebron would have gone back if they didn't have Kyrie, Wiggins, TT and Waiters? He needed the players and assets so he could try to form another Super Team. You try to make it sound like he was going back to win them a title no matter what, if that were the case, he wouldn't have left in the first place. :lol:

Who cares what management would have done if Lebron stayed, that is nothing but an excuse. Because Lebron was not given assurances that the team would not be sold and if they were, that the new owner would have to bankrupt himself to prove his loyalty, that means Lebron should walk away from his hometown franchise and leave them for dead? I might agree with you if he waived his no-trade clause and let the Cavs have something for the future. It was a bitch move and nothing but.

Lebron ran away from the Heat to cherry pick off of Cleveland's assets because San Antonio ran the Heat off the court in historic fashion in 2014. Asserting anything different is just funny. He never had any interest in going back because they don't have the assets to leech off of there. If they had the assets and young players the Lakers did, he would be in Florida right now.


Oh yeah right he should be faithful like NBA teams. Grow up mate. He fulfilled his contract and he’s a free agent. Max deals are less than what LeBron is worth. Cleveland got a good deal out of him. 4 straight finals appearances.
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Post#16 » by Mwd1981 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:49 pm

Hoopzilla wrote:
Sam195 wrote:
Hoopzilla wrote:2010 - was the first attempt at cherry picking... failed miserably. Runs with his tail between his legs after the Spurs laughed him off the court in historic fashion.
2014 - was about leeching off assets accumulated by his former team, hoping to cherry pick with younger players and have a bigger window for titles. The fact that is was his hometown just fit a narrative he tried to sell us so he wouldn't have to admit how pathetic he is.
2018 - is the third chapter in the cherry picking saga, only this time, no one wants to be his victim... voluntarily. He will have to wait until next year to find a sidekick, so Lebron fans will now try and say he is no longer cherry picking. They completely overlook the fact that he would have never gone there if they didn't have a young core of players and two max slots available. They just can't see it. :lol:

The only non-cherry picking move Lebron could have chosen would have been to stay in Cleveland and fix his mess and leave something sustainable behind for his hometown. That would have taken a spine and an ounce of mental fortitude, so it was never going to happen. :noway:

He went to LA for the off court opportunities and to cherry pick, period.


I don't think it is cherry picking if you choose to play in same division as Durant, Curry and the Warriors. I think he left Cleveland because he fulfilled his well thought promise of delivering one championship. And he wanted to leave the Cavs under Dan Gilbert's ownership in his prime so Gilbert doesn't profit off any further equity of having the league's top player on his franchise. Had Lebron signed a multi year contract to stay with Cavs - reports are Gilbert would have sold the team with Lebron's value baked in the price and there was never any guarantee the next owner would be as generous catering to Klutch Sports demands and writing large luxury tax cheques with Lebron playing into his late 30s. And Lebron and the Heat just seemed to have had an irreconcilable divorce the team neither planned to have the cap space to sign him this summer and he neither made any public comments that showed an interest of a reunion despite still owning a mansion in Miami and visiting the city in his down time the past few years to go training or chill with other celebs.


You're trying to move the goalposts here. You look at the team Lebron left and the team he joined, not the teams around him. :crazy:

As for your first few assertions, as you say, you think. You have no clue, so it makes sense to look at the pattern of behaviour rather than to speculate. When you walk away from your team and don't let them get anything in return and go to a team with plenty of assets and tonnes of cash, it is cherry picking. You are trying to make winning easier, it is the easy way out, especially when you do it three times in your career.

He never "fulfilled" a promise in Cleveland, he went back to leech off their assets. A promise would have been to stay the first time and deliver a title, not coming back to leech off of a team's unprecedented amount of number one picks and accumulated assets. :crazy: Are you seriously trying to tell me Lebron would have gone back if they didn't have Kyrie, Wiggins, TT and Waiters? He needed the players and assets so he could try to form another Super Team. You try to make it sound like he was going back to win them a title no matter what, if that were the case, he wouldn't have left in the first place. :lol:

Who cares what management would have done if Lebron stayed, that is nothing but an excuse. Because Lebron was not given assurances that the team would not be sold and if they were, that the new owner would have to bankrupt himself to prove his loyalty, that means Lebron should walk away from his hometown franchise and leave them for dead? I might agree with you if he waived his no-trade clause and let the Cavs have something for the future. It was a bitch move and nothing but.

Lebron ran away from the Heat to cherry pick off of Cleveland's assets because San Antonio ran the Heat off the court in historic fashion in 2014. Asserting anything different is just funny. He never had any interest in going back because they don't have the assets to leech off of there. If they had the assets and young players the Lakers did, he would be in Florida right now.


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Post#17 » by The Laker Kid » Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:03 pm

So basically 2018 is when Lebron becomes RealGM
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Post#18 » by Pantsman » Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:17 pm

I keep hearing people say Lebron fulfilled a promise to Cleveland. I never once heard him promise them a ring. Did he actually say this or was this just a myth that kept growing to fit a narrative?
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Post#19 » by Elnegron » Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:25 pm

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2018 the excuse about failing to deliver a ring to the lakers. Lebron always said winning was above everything so who is lying now?
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Post#20 » by spikeslovechild » Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:29 pm

He will fail so bad in LA. Rich Paul basically admitted 2018 isn't about winning for Lebron when an older player whether it be the NFL, NBA, or MLB joins a team for a paycheck, family, etc and it stops becoming about winning that is when you start to see the steep decline.

Anyways I don't even know why there is so much discussion on this right now. Lebron in LA makes him irrelevant lets talk about teams and players who actually matter in 2018

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