Marcus Smart Agree To Four-Year, $52M Deal With Celtics

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Marcus Smart Agree To Four-Year, $52M Deal With Celtics 

Post#1 » by RealGM Wiretap » Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:24 pm

Marcus Smart and the Boston Celtics have agreed to a four-year, $52 million deal.


Smart was a restricted free agent.

Via Shams Charania/Yahoo! Sports

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Post#2 » by ryguy3711 » Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:33 pm

This is first time in a long time that I doubt one of Danny Ainge’s decisions. Usually, he’s so forward-thinking that it’s hard to keep up, but this move seems like he bent over to accommodate for an average player who was complaining about his contract situation. $52M could have been spent on a lot more than a scrappy defensive guy who can’t score and who makes consistently terrible offensive decisions.
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Post#3 » by cheese318 » Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:51 pm

ryguy3711 wrote:This is first time in a long time that I doubt one of Danny Ainge’s decisions. Usually, he’s so forward-thinking that it’s hard to keep up, but this move seems like he bent over to accommodate for an average player who was complaining about his contract situation. $52M could have been spent on a lot more than a scrappy defensive guy who can’t score and who makes consistently terrible offensive decisions.


He’s still young. He’s a better offensive player than you give him credit for. When Iman Shumpert/Jr Smith are making that kind of money I believe Marcus Smart does as well plus he’s younger than them so it even makes more sense.
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Re: Marcus Smart Agree To Four-Year, $52M Deal With Celtics 

Post#4 » by Rcomplex » Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:55 pm

ryguy3711 wrote:This is first time in a long time that I doubt one of Danny Ainge’s decisions. Usually, he’s so forward-thinking that it’s hard to keep up, but this move seems like he bent over to accommodate for an average player who was complaining about his contract situation. $52M could have been spent on a lot more than a scrappy defensive guy who can’t score and who makes consistently terrible offensive decisions.


The cap is rising. Every year his contract becomes cheaper compared to the cap.

This is not an overpay by this year's cap. We are no longer in 2008. I can see this becoming a discount like the avery bradley deal in the near future.
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Post#5 » by TimRobbins » Thu Jul 19, 2018 3:22 pm

So where is Kyrie going next season?
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Re: Marcus Smart Agree To Four-Year, $52M Deal With Celtics 

Post#6 » by luss54321 » Thu Jul 19, 2018 3:46 pm

Rcomplex wrote:
ryguy3711 wrote:This is first time in a long time that I doubt one of Danny Ainge’s decisions. Usually, he’s so forward-thinking that it’s hard to keep up, but this move seems like he bent over to accommodate for an average player who was complaining about his contract situation. $52M could have been spent on a lot more than a scrappy defensive guy who can’t score and who makes consistently terrible offensive decisions.


The cap is rising. Every year his contract becomes cheaper compared to the cap.

This is not an overpay by this year's cap. We are no longer in 2008. I can see this becoming a discount like the avery bradley deal in the near future.


That's what everyone was saying in 2016 and the next thing you know Timofey Mozgov is signing for 4 years, 64 million. The best thing to do is compare a new contract to the current contracts around the league, and by that measure Marcus Smart is grossly overpaid.

You could also argue that the NBA game is rapidly changing and teams are taking more and more 3's every year. Players who can't shoot the ball, let alone guards who can't shoot the ball, are only going to look worse in future seasons.
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Re: Marcus Smart Agree To Four-Year, $52M Deal With Celtics 

Post#7 » by Rcomplex » Thu Jul 19, 2018 4:01 pm

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ryguy3711 wrote:This is first time in a long time that I doubt one of Danny Ainge’s decisions. Usually, he’s so forward-thinking that it’s hard to keep up, but this move seems like he bent over to accommodate for an average player who was complaining about his contract situation. $52M could have been spent on a lot more than a scrappy defensive guy who can’t score and who makes consistently terrible offensive decisions.


The cap is rising. Every year his contract becomes cheaper compared to the cap.

This is not an overpay by this year's cap. We are no longer in 2008. I can see this becoming a discount like the avery bradley deal in the near future.


That's what everyone was saying in 2016 and the next thing you know Timofey Mozgov is signing for 4 years, 64 million. The best thing to do is compare a new contract to the current contracts around the league, and by that measure Marcus Smart is grossly overpaid.

You could also argue that the NBA game is rapidly changing and teams are taking more and more 3's every year. Players who can't shoot the ball, let alone guards who can't shoot the ball, are only going to look worse in future seasons.


Back then there wasn't cap smoothing. the cap can widely swing either way. This is 13m on a 102m soft cap/120m hard cap. That's 12% for your 6th-7th man. That's hardly anything out of the ordinary. He's the team's anchor on defense and usually the best defender on the court for both teams. I don't think that's grossly overpaid on today's cap.

He's a ballhandler and a playmaker on Brad Steven's system. If Brad plays him 30+ mins a game, He must be doing something right and providing positive value on the court no matter what his shooting percentages say. That's totally worth 12% of the Celt's cap.
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Post#8 » by donaldtrump_00 » Thu Jul 19, 2018 4:02 pm

TimRobbins wrote:So where is Kyrie going next season?



Chicago. If not celtics. Bulls fast paste offense seems right where Irving messes best. He'd be the vet. Playing with lavine carter markkanen assuming Parker stays and push dunn off the bench and hutchison who I feel will break out when opportunity comes. Don't forget portis. That team has so much offensive fire power. If kris dunn looks like a all-star this season we go with another player.
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Re: Marcus Smart Agree To Four-Year, $52M Deal With Celtics 

Post#9 » by Pickled Prunes » Thu Jul 19, 2018 4:03 pm

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Rcomplex wrote:
ryguy3711 wrote:This is first time in a long time that I doubt one of Danny Ainge’s decisions. Usually, he’s so forward-thinking that it’s hard to keep up, but this move seems like he bent over to accommodate for an average player who was complaining about his contract situation. $52M could have been spent on a lot more than a scrappy defensive guy who can’t score and who makes consistently terrible offensive decisions.


The cap is rising. Every year his contract becomes cheaper compared to the cap.

This is not an overpay by this year's cap. We are no longer in 2008. I can see this becoming a discount like the avery bradley deal in the near future.


That's what everyone was saying in 2016 and the next thing you know Timofey Mozgov is signing for 4 years, 64 million. The best thing to do is compare a new contract to the current contracts around the league, and by that measure Marcus Smart is grossly overpaid.

You could also argue that the NBA game is rapidly changing and teams are taking more and more 3's every year. Players who can't shoot the ball, let alone guards who can't shoot the ball, are only going to look worse in future seasons.

It's just a few million over the MLE. It's might be a touch high today, but who do you replace him with?
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Re: Marcus Smart Agree To Four-Year, $52M Deal With Celtics 

Post#10 » by Donnyxc » Thu Jul 19, 2018 4:06 pm

Still feel like the Team could've signed him to 4 year/40M. Feels like a slight overpay, but let's not hype this up. It's not a 20M/year Contact. It's not even a Timothy Mozgov 16M/year contract. This is more tradeable. Too many people undervalue Smart's defense, or plainly have not watched enough of the Celtics to notice the contributions Smart makes that don't come up in the stats sheet, when assessing his contractual worth.
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Post#11 » by Furinkazan » Thu Jul 19, 2018 4:26 pm

pretty solid for both parties
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Post#12 » by TimRobbins » Thu Jul 19, 2018 4:28 pm

donaldtrump_00 wrote:
TimRobbins wrote:So where is Kyrie going next season?



Chicago. If not celtics. Bulls fast paste offense seems right where Irving messes best. He'd be the vet. Playing with lavine carter markkanen assuming Parker stays and push dunn off the bench and hutchison who I feel will break out when opportunity comes. Don't forget portis. That team has so much offensive fire power. If kris dunn looks like a all-star this season we go with another player.


I hope so. Doesn't look like he's going to be staying with Boston either way.
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Post#13 » by ChokeFasncists » Thu Jul 19, 2018 5:31 pm

He's lucky, no one would pay him that much this offseason except for the guy who drafted him high; plus Kyrie's situation is unstable, they need him if he bolts via free agency.

But he's indeed pretty valuable. He can be the perimeter bench all by himself. One of the best defenders in the league, he's not a good shooter but not terrible, he's good passer as well.
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Post#15 » by theman » Thu Jul 19, 2018 5:37 pm

It sounds like a lot for a back up point guard but I guess in today's NBA it is not.
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Post#16 » by Donnyxc » Thu Jul 19, 2018 5:42 pm

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donaldtrump_00 wrote:
TimRobbins wrote:So where is Kyrie going next season?



Chicago. If not celtics. Bulls fast paste offense seems right where Irving messes best. He'd be the vet. Playing with lavine carter markkanen assuming Parker stays and push dunn off the bench and hutchison who I feel will break out when opportunity comes. Don't forget portis. That team has so much offensive fire power. If kris dunn looks like a all-star this season we go with another player.


I hope so. Doesn't look like he's going to be staying with Boston either way.


nah Butler isn't going back to Chicago. They're both getting maxes from Brooklyn.
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Post#17 » by vct33 » Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:15 pm

ryguy3711 wrote:This is first time in a long time that I doubt one of Danny Ainge’s decisions. Usually, he’s so forward-thinking that it’s hard to keep up, but this move seems like he bent over to accommodate for an average player who was complaining about his contract situation. $52M could have been spent on a lot more than a scrappy defensive guy who can’t score and who makes consistently terrible offensive decisions.


How do you propose he could have spent that money else where? You do realize the NBA has a salary cap right?
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Post#18 » by colaroaster » Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:34 pm

no other team wanted him than why give him a pay bump - nothing better in sports than watching a player in a contract year?
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Re: Marcus Smart Agree To Four-Year, $52M Deal With Celtics 

Post#19 » by jirrit » Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:11 pm

TimRobbins wrote:
donaldtrump_00 wrote:
TimRobbins wrote:So where is Kyrie going next season?



Chicago. If not celtics. Bulls fast paste offense seems right where Irving messes best. He'd be the vet. Playing with lavine carter markkanen assuming Parker stays and push dunn off the bench and hutchison who I feel will break out when opportunity comes. Don't forget portis. That team has so much offensive fire power. If kris dunn looks like a all-star this season we go with another player.


I hope so. Doesn't look like he's going to be staying with Boston either way.


And this is based on?
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Re: Marcus Smart Agree To Four-Year, $52M Deal With Celtics 

Post#20 » by gordoncatrell » Thu Jul 19, 2018 9:44 pm

Any news on whether or not a TEAM OPTION exist within yrs 2-5?

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