Knicks, Bulls Explore Trade Involving Enes Kanter And Jabari Parker

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Knicks, Bulls Explore Trade Involving Enes Kanter And Jabari Parker 

Post#1 » by RealGM Wiretap » Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:44 am

The New York Knicks and Chicago Bulls recently discussed a potential trade centered around Enes Kanter and Jabari Parker.


Trade talks hit a snag as the Bulls and Knicks looked for a third team to take Kanter. The Kings have been mentioned as a possible candidate to make the trade work. 


Kanter has been the subject of recent trade rumors, including one to the Kings for Zach Randolph.

Via Stefan Bondy/NY Daily News

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Post#2 » by tigerae » Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:12 am

Why? Kanter is an expiring contract, just buy him out and move on. If anything, they save money since Parker's contract is 20 million and Kanter is a little over 18 million, even pro rated they save about a million.

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Post#3 » by Sam195 » Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:35 am

I think Bucks will step up and help Jabari again by being the third team to acquire Kanter's expiring contract. Kanter can help shore up the bucks bench for the playoffs. Bucks have the cap space to do it after their salary dump trade with cavs and the cap relief they got with Teletovic's medical retirement. Lol Bucks drafted Jabari over Embid thinking the former would be the one with less serious injury issues and less of a head case in the locker room down the road. Bucks tanked the 13-14 season for that 2014 draft and have absolutely nothing to show for it. At least Wiggins drafted ahead of Jabari has been durable his entire career with flashes of potential that could see him round out into an elite wing player down the road like a Paul Pierce/Paul George type.

Also Bucks fans should not forget that ownership thought Jabari was going to be the face of the franchise so they declined to give Giannis a designated player extension (5 year max) in favor of a 4 year deal that lets the greek freak hit free agency faster. Both the Timberwolves and Kings made the same mistake with healthy Kevin Love and Demarcus Cousins. And ended up trading them in their primes for pennies on the dollar before they became ufas. Warriors may also face the same fate with regards to Klay Thompson who may end up pursuing his market value in 2019 free agency which is much higher than the 5th year designated max deal Warriors should have inked him to in 2014.
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Post#4 » by Sam195 » Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:40 am

tigerae wrote:Why? Kanter is an expiring contract, just buy him out and move on. If anything, they save money since Parker's contract is 20 million and Kanter is a little over 18 million, even pro rated they save about a million.

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Knicks actually want Parker there were rumors of him landing there in potential Melo deals in 2017-18 before Melo was dealt to OKC. Bucks at the time were still optimistic in Jabari stock so they were asking for a high return. The Bulls who already have overpaid Robin Lopez at Centre and likely want pure cap relief and don't want to pay dime for a Kanter buyout. Bulls may also hope they can snag a second round pick or two for giving Kanter away since he could still help a playoff team short term as an expiring contract.
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Post#5 » by MeloRoseNoah » Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:47 am

CASH will be involved for the Bulls!!!
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Post#6 » by Scalabrine » Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:57 am

Sam195 wrote:I think Bucks will step up and help Jabari again by being the third team to acquire Kanter's expiring contract. Kanter can help shore up the bucks bench for the playoffs. Bucks have the cap space to do it after their salary dump trade with cavs and the cap relief they got with Teletovic's medical retirement. Lol Bucks drafted Jabari over Embid thinking the former would be the one with less serious injury issues and less of a head case in the locker room down the road. Bucks tanked the 13-14 season for that 2014 draft and have absolutely nothing to show for it. At least Wiggins drafted ahead of Jabari has been durable his entire career with flashes of potential that could see him round out into an elite wing player down the road like a Paul Pierce/Paul George type.

Also Bucks fans should not forget that ownership thought Jabari was going to be the face of the franchise so they declined to give Giannis a designated player extension (5 year max) in favor of a 4 year deal that lets the greek freak hit free agency faster. Both the Timberwolves and Kings made the same mistake with healthy Kevin Love and Demarcus Cousins. And ended up trading them in their primes for pennies on the dollar before they became ufas. Warriors may also face the same fate with regards to Klay Thompson who may end up pursuing his market value in 2019 free agency which is much higher than the 5th year designated max deal Warriors should have inked him to in 2014.


Bucks dont have capspace. They are currently 22 mil over the cap. They'd need to include George Hill in the deal.

Hill to Chi, Parker to NYK, Kanter to MIL works under the CBA but I think the Bucks should rather Hill. Lopez plays a great role for them there and the combo of Maker, Giannis, Ilyasova getting the rest 22ish minutes that Lopez isn't on the floor seems better then DiVincenzo getting all the backup point guard minutes.
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Post#7 » by IWishIWasHarden » Mon Jan 14, 2019 4:06 am

The Bulls held trade talks recently about a Parker for Kanter trade. The trade hit a snag when the Bulls couldn't find a taker for Kanter. Is this a serious article?
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Post#8 » by thonnisbeastley » Mon Jan 14, 2019 4:34 am

Sam195 wrote:I think Bucks will step up and help Jabari again by being the third team to acquire Kanter's expiring contract. Kanter can help shore up the bucks bench for the playoffs. Bucks have the cap space to do it after their salary dump trade with cavs and the cap relief they got with Teletovic's medical retirement. Lol Bucks drafted Jabari over Embid thinking the former would be the one with less serious injury issues and less of a head case in the locker room down the road. Bucks tanked the 13-14 season for that 2014 draft and have absolutely nothing to show for it. At least Wiggins drafted ahead of Jabari has been durable his entire career with flashes of potential that could see him round out into an elite wing player down the road like a Paul Pierce/Paul George type.

Also Bucks fans should not forget that ownership thought Jabari was going to be the face of the franchise so they declined to give Giannis a designated player extension (5 year max) in favor of a 4 year deal that lets the greek freak hit free agency faster. Both the Timberwolves and Kings made the same mistake with healthy Kevin Love and Demarcus Cousins. And ended up trading them in their primes for pennies on the dollar before they became ufas. Warriors may also face the same fate with regards to Klay Thompson who may end up pursuing his market value in 2019 free agency which is much higher than the 5th year designated max deal Warriors should have inked him to in 2014.


Giannis agreed to take less money in the hopes that the Bucks could acquire better players and turn into title contenders. The Bucks thinking was that they'd have a big 3 for years to come with Giannis, Middleton, and Parker. Unfortunately Parker dealt with nasty injuries and had a terrible attitude, never allowing him to become the player everyone thought and hoped he'd be. Middleton has not improved as the Bucks had hoped either. I don't see Giannis leaving considering the current state of the Bucks. He loves Milwaukee, his entire family has been in Milwaukee since moving to the United States. His brothers have gone through Milwaukee High Schools. The Bucks will take care of him on his next contract.

Also the Warriors wouldn't have been able to keep their championship team together OR sign Durant had they maxed out Thompson.
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Post#9 » by Sam195 » Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:34 pm

thonnisbeastley wrote:
Sam195 wrote:I think Bucks will step up and help Jabari again by being the third team to acquire Kanter's expiring contract. Kanter can help shore up the bucks bench for the playoffs. Bucks have the cap space to do it after their salary dump trade with cavs and the cap relief they got with Teletovic's medical retirement. Lol Bucks drafted Jabari over Embid thinking the former would be the one with less serious injury issues and less of a head case in the locker room down the road. Bucks tanked the 13-14 season for that 2014 draft and have absolutely nothing to show for it. At least Wiggins drafted ahead of Jabari has been durable his entire career with flashes of potential that could see him round out into an elite wing player down the road like a Paul Pierce/Paul George type.

Also Bucks fans should not forget that ownership thought Jabari was going to be the face of the franchise so they declined to give Giannis a designated player extension (5 year max) in favor of a 4 year deal that lets the greek freak hit free agency faster. Both the Timberwolves and Kings made the same mistake with healthy Kevin Love and Demarcus Cousins. And ended up trading them in their primes for pennies on the dollar before they became ufas. Warriors may also face the same fate with regards to Klay Thompson who may end up pursuing his market value in 2019 free agency which is much higher than the 5th year designated max deal Warriors should have inked him to in 2014.


Giannis agreed to take less money in the hopes that the Bucks could acquire better players and turn into title contenders. The Bucks thinking was that they'd have a big 3 for years to come with Giannis, Middleton, and Parker. Unfortunately Parker dealt with nasty injuries and had a terrible attitude, never allowing him to become the player everyone thought and hoped he'd be. Middleton has not improved as the Bucks had hoped either. I don't see Giannis leaving considering the current state of the Bucks. He loves Milwaukee, his entire family has been in Milwaukee since moving to the United States. His brothers have gone through Milwaukee High Schools. The Bucks will take care of him on his next contract.

Also the Warriors wouldn't have been able to keep their championship team together OR sign Durant had they maxed out Thompson.


Lol Giannis was not taking less money as the salary cap was rising it was the deal the Bucks negotiated him down to not expecting him to break out to an mvp level right after it went into effect. Klay actually makes close to the max he would have got in 2014 but he got a 4 year deal instead of 5 because warriors at the time did not want to snub Harrison Barnes (who would also be eligible down the road had he lived up to expectations for a 5 year max deal). The old cba only allowed teams the ability to hand out one of those extensions and the Warriors obviously weren't considering it for an injury prone Steph Curry who later emerged as a 2 time MVP, passed on Klay and let Barnes hit rfa status so they can pursue KD. Some good nba gms inadvertently even pull a David Kahn every once in a while and its the fans bases that feel the real hurt of such a move down the road.
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Post#10 » by JimmyJammer » Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:07 pm

P. S. The Bulls are not trying to acquire any player who is going to mess with their tank.

It's funny how things work these days in the NBA. The Bulls have had rebounding problem the whole season, and they have a malcontent player in Jabari who apparently does not fit into their plan. So, tell me why again Kanter, a rebounding force, at the young age of 27, would not be the perfect pickup for the Bulls. I feel sorry for those season ticket holders.
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Post#11 » by puja21 » Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:33 pm

Sam195 wrote:I think Bucks will step up and help Jabari again by being the third team to acquire Kanter's expiring contract. Kanter can help shore up the bucks bench for the playoffs. Bucks have the cap space to do it after their salary dump trade with cavs and the cap relief they got with Teletovic's medical retirement. Lol Bucks drafted Jabari over Embid thinking the former would be the one with less serious injury issues and less of a head case in the locker room down the road. Bucks tanked the 13-14 season for that 2014 draft and have absolutely nothing to show for it. At least Wiggins drafted ahead of Jabari has been durable his entire career with flashes of potential that could see him round out into an elite wing player down the road like a Paul Pierce/Paul George type.

Also Bucks fans should not forget that ownership thought Jabari was going to be the face of the franchise so they declined to give Giannis a designated player extension (5 year max) in favor of a 4 year deal that lets the greek freak hit free agency faster. Both the Timberwolves and Kings made the same mistake with healthy Kevin Love and Demarcus Cousins. And ended up trading them in their primes for pennies on the dollar before they became ufas. Warriors may also face the same fate with regards to Klay Thompson who may end up pursuing his market value in 2019 free agency which is much higher than the 5th year designated max deal Warriors should have inked him to in 2014.


This sounds like revisionist history.

The Warriors locked Klay at 4y 70m, so they could still pursue another max in 2016(ended up being Durant)

If they had signed Klay to the designated max in Nov 2014, then his year 1 salary (for 15/16) would have been based on the cap for that year; 25% for year 1, +7.5% each season after.

Concern was that the 15/16 projected cap (as of Nov 2014) could be too low... And if the 15/16 cap proved higher than expected, this spike would have raised his year 1 salary, and (with the subsequent 7.5% raises) perhaps eaten too much into their 2016-2017 cap space to allow the Durant max.

Everyone knew the $90M explosion was coming.
They got Durant and won 2 titles (possibly 3).
So they already made the right call.

Based on his interviews, Klay would almost surely agree; he got less money but got the rings and will still get paid now... almost surely at Draymond's expense <-- but again, perfect timing to trade Green next year rather than max him, both to avoid more repeater tax dollars and because his play has degraded
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Post#12 » by DrClutch » Mon Jan 14, 2019 6:38 pm

tigerae wrote:Why? Kanter is an expiring contract, just buy him out and move on. If anything, they save money since Parker's contract is 20 million and Kanter is a little over 18 million, even pro rated they save about a million.

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Jabari is on a 1 year, bulls haven't option his contact... knicks can get him but do they really want that 1 yr 20 when they can lowball offer 2 yr/20 him since his stock has dropped
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Post#13 » by zero24gravity » Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:49 pm

I'd like to request a change to the title of this article, please.

Knicks, Bulls Explore Trade Involving Enes Kanter And Jabari Parker, in a possible swap of the 2 laziest defenders in the NBA.

Too long? ;)
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Post#14 » by mplsfonz23 » Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:59 pm

Sam195 wrote:Also Bucks fans should not forget that ownership thought Jabari was going to be the face of the franchise so they declined to give Giannis a designated player extension (5 year max) in favor of a 4 year deal that lets the greek freak hit free agency faster. Both the Timberwolves and Kings made the same mistake with healthy Kevin Love and Demarcus Cousins. And ended up trading them in their primes for pennies on the dollar before they became ufas. Warriors may also face the same fate with regards to Klay Thompson who may end up pursuing his market value in 2019 free agency which is much higher than the 5th year designated max deal Warriors should have inked him to in 2014.

Not a mistake. We were saving it for Rubio because at the time we only had one tag. Plus KLove never even got us close to the playoffs. Why spend a designated player tag on someone who could even sniff the PO's?

Not sure why JP is bouncing around so much. I know his D is bad, but does he have ANY game?
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Post#15 » by KGdaBom » Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:00 pm

Sam195 wrote:I think Bucks will step up and help Jabari again by being the third team to acquire Kanter's expiring contract. Kanter can help shore up the bucks bench for the playoffs. Bucks have the cap space to do it after their salary dump trade with cavs and the cap relief they got with Teletovic's medical retirement. Lol Bucks drafted Jabari over Embid thinking the former would be the one with less serious injury issues and less of a head case in the locker room down the road. Bucks tanked the 13-14 season for that 2014 draft and have absolutely nothing to show for it. At least Wiggins drafted ahead of Jabari has been durable his entire career with flashes of potential that could see him round out into an elite wing player down the road like a Paul Pierce/Paul George type.

Also Bucks fans should not forget that ownership thought Jabari was going to be the face of the franchise so they declined to give Giannis a designated player extension (5 year max) in favor of a 4 year deal that lets the greek freak hit free agency faster. Both the Timberwolves and Kings made the same mistake with healthy Kevin Love and Demarcus Cousins. And ended up trading them in their primes for pennies on the dollar before they became ufas. Warriors may also face the same fate with regards to Klay Thompson who may end up pursuing his market value in 2019 free agency which is much higher than the 5th year designated max deal Warriors should have inked him to in 2014.

As a Wolves fan I know there are many reasons to mock us, but according to most we got Dollars on the Dollar in the love deal. The #1 overall pick and a young former #1 pick who sucked LOL, plus I think two more FRPs was considered at the time a great deal. Now Wiggins has mostly sucked and we have squandered the other picks.

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