Kings Acquire Harrison Barnes From Mavericks

Moderators: bwgood77, Domejandro

RealGM Wiretap
RealGM
Posts: 122,904
And1: 320
Joined: Mar 19, 2013

Kings Acquire Harrison Barnes From Mavericks 

Post#1 » by RealGM Wiretap » Thu Feb 7, 2019 3:17 am

The Sacramento Kings have agreed to acquire Harrison Barnes from the Dallas Mavericks for Justin Jackson and Zach Randolph.


The Kings will no longer have max cap space this offseason.

Via Shams Charania/The Athletic

Rek
Pro Prospect
Posts: 809
And1: 181
Joined: Jul 30, 2013
     

Re: Kings Acquire Harrison Barnes From Mavericks 

Post#2 » by Rek » Thu Feb 7, 2019 3:26 am

Cuban making room for an offer to... Boogie?
kenwood3333
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,829
And1: 3,731
Joined: Dec 10, 2013

Re: Kings Acquire Harrison Barnes From Mavericks 

Post#3 » by kenwood3333 » Thu Feb 7, 2019 3:34 am

Kind of surprise he has so little value. He is overpaid, just like Otto Porter, but still a good starter level player.
streets talking
Senior
Posts: 540
And1: 31
Joined: Aug 13, 2015

Re: Kings Acquire Harrison Barnes From Mavericks 

Post#4 » by streets talking » Thu Feb 7, 2019 4:46 am

Hope Luka doesnt get hurt ... or the cleanedout mavs will look like the cavs after lebron left (twice)
User avatar
elBJ
Pro Prospect
Posts: 886
And1: 697
Joined: Jan 21, 2014

Re: Kings Acquire Harrison Barnes From Mavericks 

Post#5 » by elBJ » Thu Feb 7, 2019 5:04 am

nice cap dumb, now trade THJ back to the Knicks and you're set!
Guest202 wrote:Even Wall Street Journal subscribers think it was fixed...
Sam195
Analyst
Posts: 3,306
And1: 310
Joined: May 18, 2013

Re: Kings Acquire Harrison Barnes From Mavericks 

Post#6 » by Sam195 » Thu Feb 7, 2019 6:14 am

kenwood3333 wrote:Kind of surprise he has so little value. He is overpaid, just like Otto Porter, but still a good starter level player.


No it makes sense - the Kings have had a fetish for Barnes since the 2012 nba draft when they passed on him to pick Thomas Robinson at #5 who turned out to be a bust. The Kings also were interested in Barnes as a rfa in 2016 but he signed his max offer sheet with the mavs. The Kings were going to go after him as a free agent this summer when he opts out but by trading for him now they acquire his bird rights and can resign him to a 5 year max contract. The mavs did this deal to get below the luxury tax and save millions their payroll was too high after they ate all the bad knicks salary in the Porzingis trade. Mavs save money and Kings acquire leverage to retain Barnes in free agency. Lol Barnes might not even take a meeting with Kings if he became a UFA and they were one of many teams that could offer him a 4 year max deal.
Sam195
Analyst
Posts: 3,306
And1: 310
Joined: May 18, 2013

Re: Kings Acquire Harrison Barnes From Mavericks 

Post#7 » by Sam195 » Thu Feb 7, 2019 6:44 am

Mavs tanking to add Zion Williamson to Luca and KP. The pick they owe Hawks from the Doncic trade is top 5 protected so they are guaranteed to keep it if they get one of the two worst records in the league by season end if they finish a little better they still have decent odds in the draft lottery to move into the top three.
dice
RealGM
Posts: 44,727
And1: 13,268
Joined: Jun 30, 2003
Location: chicago

Re: Kings Acquire Harrison Barnes From Mavericks 

Post#8 » by dice » Thu Feb 7, 2019 6:47 am

kings committed to maintaining mediocrity
God help Ukraine
God help those fleeing misery to come here
God help the Middle East
God help the climate
God help US health care
User avatar
blind prophet
RealGM
Posts: 10,575
And1: 3,307
Joined: Dec 08, 2011
 

Re: Kings Acquire Harrison Barnes From Mavericks 

Post#9 » by blind prophet » Thu Feb 7, 2019 6:52 am

dice wrote:kings committed to maintaining mediocrity


We aint been mediocre for 15 years bro.
koyotee
Freshman
Posts: 89
And1: 42
Joined: May 26, 2018

Re: Kings Acquire Harrison Barnes From Mavericks 

Post#10 » by koyotee » Thu Feb 7, 2019 7:50 am

Sam195 wrote:Mavs tanking to add Zion Williamson to Luca and KP. The pick they owe Hawks from the Doncic trade is top 5 protected so they are guaranteed to keep it if they get one of the two worst records in the league by season end if they finish a little better they still have decent odds in the draft lottery to move into the top three.


LUKA LUKA LUKA LUKA LUKA LUKA LUKA LUKA LUKA
Not ******* LUCA :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
likashing
Head Coach
Posts: 6,560
And1: 1,959
Joined: Jun 06, 2013

Re: Kings Acquire Harrison Barnes From Mavericks 

Post#11 » by likashing » Thu Feb 7, 2019 8:57 am

Barnes back to Northern California.
Mark Jackson wrote:Playoff preparation is overrated... I’m going to get my rest. I’m not going to grow old and be stressed out and get gray hair.
antonac
Starter
Posts: 2,395
And1: 2,246
Joined: Dec 01, 2016
 

Re: Kings Acquire Harrison Barnes From Mavericks 

Post#12 » by antonac » Thu Feb 7, 2019 9:08 am

streets talking wrote:Hope Luka doesnt get hurt ... or the cleanedout mavs will look like the cavs after lebron left (twice)


clean out? they acquired porzingis.
phenith
Sophomore
Posts: 181
And1: 40
Joined: Apr 28, 2009

Re: Kings Acquire Harrison Barnes From Mavericks 

Post#13 » by phenith » Thu Feb 7, 2019 11:06 am

Mixed bag on this one, on one hand they didn't really need him and he makes a lot of money, on the other hand, they got him for almost nothing and aren't a hot spot free agent landing spot, so they grabbed what they could.

Isn't Barnes just a veteran poor mans version of Bagley??
Sure Barnes can shoot much better right now, but Bagley is already better in some ways and is a rookie.
So they obviously plan to play Barnes at the 3 which means they see Bogdon as a permanent bench player/spot starter or plan to move him still.
shagadelic45
General Manager
Posts: 8,551
And1: 108
Joined: Nov 20, 2001
Location: Budapest, Hungary

Re: Kings Acquire Harrison Barnes From Mavericks 

Post#14 » by shagadelic45 » Thu Feb 7, 2019 11:41 am

probably could have had andrew wiggins for that package also......
Sam195
Analyst
Posts: 3,306
And1: 310
Joined: May 18, 2013

Re: Kings Acquire Harrison Barnes From Mavericks 

Post#15 » by Sam195 » Thu Feb 7, 2019 1:35 pm

phenith wrote:Mixed bag on this one, on one hand they didn't really need him and he makes a lot of money, on the other hand, they got him for almost nothing and aren't a hot spot free agent landing spot, so they grabbed what they could.

Isn't Barnes just a veteran poor mans version of Bagley??
Sure Barnes can shoot much better right now, but Bagley is already better in some ways and is a rookie.
So they obviously plan to play Barnes at the 3 which means they see Bogdon as a permanent bench player/spot starter or plan to move him still.


Boston owns the Kings pick protected for number 1 for the 2019 nba draft so they basically have no pick and all the incentive to make the playoffs. That is why Kings are going all in.
User avatar
12footrim
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,461
And1: 2,389
Joined: Jul 09, 2012

Re: Kings Acquire Harrison Barnes From Mavericks 

Post#16 » by 12footrim » Thu Feb 7, 2019 1:37 pm

dice wrote:kings committed to maintaining mediocrity


So what players do you think were going to sign with them? They got not pick this year so it not like they are sacrificing anything. Barnes is capable of guarding Lebron, Durant etc guys like that and they do need that if they want to make the playoffs next year.
bj2323
Junior
Posts: 281
And1: 31
Joined: Apr 24, 2014
       

Re: Kings Acquire Harrison Barnes From Mavericks 

Post#17 » by bj2323 » Thu Feb 7, 2019 2:23 pm

Sam195 wrote:
kenwood3333 wrote:Kind of surprise he has so little value. He is overpaid, just like Otto Porter, but still a good starter level player.


No it makes sense - the Kings have had a fetish for Barnes since the 2012 nba draft when they passed on him to pick Thomas Robinson at #5 who turned out to be a bust. The Kings also were interested in Barnes as a rfa in 2016 but he signed his max offer sheet with the mavs. The Kings were going to go after him as a free agent this summer when he opts out but by trading for him now they acquire his bird rights and can resign him to a 5 year max contract. The mavs did this deal to get below the luxury tax and save millions their payroll was too high after they ate all the bad knicks salary in the Porzingis trade. Mavs save money and Kings acquire leverage to retain Barnes in free agency. Lol Barnes might not even take a meeting with Kings if he became a UFA and they were one of many teams that could offer him a 4 year max deal.


So much wrong with this statement lol. First, the Mavs were no where near having to pay the tax, in fact, they had one of the lowest payrolls of all teams this year. Second, if Harrison Barnes gets paid a max 5 year deal, then I will forever crown the Kings the worst franchise in sports history.
I likes sports
enderwilson
Pro Prospect
Posts: 778
And1: 152
Joined: Jun 23, 2011
 

Re: Kings Acquire Harrison Barnes From Mavericks 

Post#18 » by enderwilson » Thu Feb 7, 2019 2:57 pm

bj2323 wrote:
Sam195 wrote:
kenwood3333 wrote:Kind of surprise he has so little value. He is overpaid, just like Otto Porter, but still a good starter level player.


No it makes sense - the Kings have had a fetish for Barnes since the 2012 nba draft when they passed on him to pick Thomas Robinson at #5 who turned out to be a bust. The Kings also were interested in Barnes as a rfa in 2016 but he signed his max offer sheet with the mavs. The Kings were going to go after him as a free agent this summer when he opts out but by trading for him now they acquire his bird rights and can resign him to a 5 year max contract. The mavs did this deal to get below the luxury tax and save millions their payroll was too high after they ate all the bad knicks salary in the Porzingis trade. Mavs save money and Kings acquire leverage to retain Barnes in free agency. Lol Barnes might not even take a meeting with Kings if he became a UFA and they were one of many teams that could offer him a 4 year max deal.


So much wrong with this statement lol. First, the Mavs were no where near having to pay the tax, in fact, they had one of the lowest payrolls of all teams this year. Second, if Harrison Barnes gets paid a max 5 year deal, then I will forever crown the Kings the worst franchise in sports history.


Dallas absorbed $30 million in salary from the Knicks by taking on Hardaway and Lee. While he might be wrong about the proximity of the Mavs payroll to the tax threshold, the bigger point is that Dallas needed more space under the salary cap to both resign Porzingis AND go after additional talent.
Kabaum
Sophomore
Posts: 243
And1: 203
Joined: Jun 13, 2017
       

Re: Kings Acquire Harrison Barnes From Mavericks 

Post#19 » by Kabaum » Thu Feb 7, 2019 5:13 pm

dice wrote:kings committed to maintaining mediocrity


This makes no sense
arasu
Rookie
Posts: 1,239
And1: 149
Joined: Dec 08, 2012

Re: Kings Acquire Harrison Barnes From Mavericks 

Post#20 » by arasu » Thu Feb 7, 2019 9:20 pm

Sam195 wrote:
phenith wrote:Mixed bag on this one, on one hand they didn't really need him and he makes a lot of money, on the other hand, they got him for almost nothing and aren't a hot spot free agent landing spot, so they grabbed what they could.

Isn't Barnes just a veteran poor mans version of Bagley??
Sure Barnes can shoot much better right now, but Bagley is already better in some ways and is a rookie.
So they obviously plan to play Barnes at the 3 which means they see Bogdon as a permanent bench player/spot starter or plan to move him still.


Boston owns the Kings pick protected for number 1 for the 2019 nba draft so they basically have no pick and all the incentive to make the playoffs. That is why Kings are going all in.

They've been looking for a SF all year, playing Shumpert there when healthy. They see Bogdanovic strictly as a 2.

Return to Wiretap Discussion