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Doc Rivers Warned About Coaching LeBron James

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 5:00 am
by RealGM Wiretap

Doc Rivers was warned about potentially taking over the Los Angeles Lakers job due to the environment surrounding LeBron James, according to Michael Wilbon.


"There are people in southern California right now in that environment telling Doc he doesn't wanna do this. And one of those reasons is simply, LeBron James. He's been told by people—and I know this—LeBron doesn't want to be coached. He's never been coached by someone with that kind of personality, command, authority, acumen, intellect. He's rejected that. So Doc is being reminded of that by people," said Wilbon on "Pardon the Interruption."


Addressing the Lakers' rumors, Rivers said that he verbally agreed to a long-term extension to stay with the Clippers.

Via Adam Wells/Bleacher Report


Re: Doc Rivers Warned About Coaching LeBron James

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 6:15 am
by gh123
It's been known for over a decade...

Re: Doc Rivers Warned About Coaching LeBron James

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 7:20 am
by TimRobbins
Now that Lebron has shown the first signs of a significant decline, all the hate is coming out of the woodwork. Lebron seems to be one of the most disliked people around the league. Virtually nobody wants part of him he second he's not a top 3 player.

Re: Doc Rivers Warned About Coaching LeBron James

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 7:50 am
by Lalouie
this is actually,,,NOT NEWS. merely a confirmation, like kd's statement.
doc ain't no dummy but as the article states "by someone with that kind of personality, command, authority, acumen, intellect. He's rejected that. So Doc is being reminded of that by people"

please, let's cut to the chase on this one. good people like working with good people - each is enhanced by the other. it's the lebron BS that matters. no one has to "remind" doc of the hazzard pay

Re: Doc Rivers Warned About Coaching LeBron James

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 8:52 am
by koningcosmo
Tyronn Lue. ...
Luke Walton. ...
Mike Brown. ...
David Blatt. ...
Paul Silas. ...
Brendan Malone
Erik Spoelstra

we going to act any of these coaches are some with that kind of personality, command, authority, acumen, intellect??? Lebron never had a good coach like Doc so we wouldnt know how that would work out.

Re: Doc Rivers Warned About Coaching LeBron James

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 10:19 am
by Indomitable
koningcosmo wrote:Tyronn Lue. ...
Luke Walton. ...
Mike Brown. ...
David Blatt. ...
Paul Silas. ...
Brendan Malone
Erik Spoelstra

we going to act any of these coaches are some with that kind of personality, command, authority, acumen, intellect??? Lebron never had a good coach like Doc so we wouldnt know how that would work out.

Spoelstra and Malone are good or coaches.

Blatt is a big question mark. He was great overseas and sabotaged by Lebron.

Re: Doc Rivers Warned About Coaching LeBron James

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 10:34 am
by koningcosmo
Indomitable wrote:
koningcosmo wrote:Tyronn Lue. ...
Luke Walton. ...
Mike Brown. ...
David Blatt. ...
Paul Silas. ...
Brendan Malone
Erik Spoelstra

we going to act any of these coaches are some with that kind of personality, command, authority, acumen, intellect??? Lebron never had a good coach like Doc so we wouldnt know how that would work out.

Spoelstra and Malone are good or coaches.

Blatt is a big question mark. He was great overseas and sabotaged by Lebron.


you crazy??? Brendan malone has been a head coach 2 seasons, 1995-96 and 2004-05, total wins 29 total loses 71. Damn fine coach if you ask me. You thinkin about mike malone i think??? Blatt was so good he never coached an nba team after the CAVS.

only good one he had is spoelstra and he had just 2 years of experience as an headcoach. Argument could be made spoelstra wasnt nearly as good then as he is now.

Re: Doc Rivers Warned About Coaching LeBron James

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 11:20 am
by CycklopsGT
TimRobbins wrote:Now that Lebron has shown the first signs of a significant decline, all the hate is coming out of the woodwork. Lebron seems to be one of the most disliked people around the league. Virtually nobody wants part of him he second he's not a top 3 player.

That's the way it's always been. Some people treat others like garbage while they're on top of the mountain, and the minute age takes away their talent, looks, strength, whatever it may be, all that negative energy explodes in their face.

Re: Doc Rivers Warned About Coaching LeBron James

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 11:35 am
by Indomitable
koningcosmo wrote:
Indomitable wrote:
koningcosmo wrote:Tyronn Lue. ...
Luke Walton. ...
Mike Brown. ...
David Blatt. ...
Paul Silas. ...
Brendan Malone
Erik Spoelstra

we going to act any of these coaches are some with that kind of personality, command, authority, acumen, intellect??? Lebron never had a good coach like Doc so we wouldnt know how that would work out.

Spoelstra and Malone are good or coaches.

Blatt is a big question mark. He was great overseas and sabotaged by Lebron.


you crazy??? Brendan malone has been a head coach 2 seasons, 1995-96 and 2004-05, total wins 29 total loses 71. Damn fine coach if you ask me. You thinkin about mike malone i think??? Blatt was so good he never coached an nba team after the CAVS.

only good one he had is spoelstra and he had just 2 years of experience as an headcoach. Argument could be made spoelstra wasnt nearly as good then as he is now.

You right. I was thinking of the guy who got messed over by Cousins.

Blatt got screwed and he never got run his system. When you have Bron Bron you are running it through him as a pg.

Blatt was Lebronned.

Re: Doc Rivers Warned About Coaching LeBron James

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 11:53 am
by Vegeta10176
Indomitable wrote:
koningcosmo wrote:
Indomitable wrote:Spoelstra and Malone are good or coaches.

Blatt is a big question mark. He was great overseas and sabotaged by Lebron.


you crazy??? Brendan malone has been a head coach 2 seasons, 1995-96 and 2004-05, total wins 29 total loses 71. Damn fine coach if you ask me. You thinkin about mike malone i think??? Blatt was so good he never coached an nba team after the CAVS.

only good one he had is spoelstra and he had just 2 years of experience as an headcoach. Argument could be made spoelstra wasnt nearly as good then as he is now.

You right. I was thinking of the guy who got messed over by Cousins.

Blatt got screwed and he never got run his system. When you have Bron Bron you are running it through him as a pg.

Blatt was Lebronned.


Blatt got fired mid season and they won the championship that year.. Pretty sure LBJ made the right choose.. Spo is an ok coach but what has he done since LBJ left miss playoffs or just make them they have also spent for that roster they have the highest payroll in the NBA and are a first round out.. Spo is not a good coach he is an average coach..

Re: Doc Rivers Warned About Coaching LeBron James

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 12:46 pm
by AIR24KOBE
Vegeta10176 wrote:
Indomitable wrote:
koningcosmo wrote:
you crazy??? Brendan malone has been a head coach 2 seasons, 1995-96 and 2004-05, total wins 29 total loses 71. Damn fine coach if you ask me. You thinkin about mike malone i think??? Blatt was so good he never coached an nba team after the CAVS.

only good one he had is spoelstra and he had just 2 years of experience as an headcoach. Argument could be made spoelstra wasnt nearly as good then as he is now.

You right. I was thinking of the guy who got messed over by Cousins.

Blatt got screwed and he never got run his system. When you have Bron Bron you are running it through him as a pg.

Blatt was Lebronned.


Blatt got fired mid season and they won the championship that year.. Pretty sure LBJ made the right choose.. Spo is an ok coach but what has he done since LBJ left miss playoffs or just make them they have also spent for that roster they have the highest payroll in the NBA and are a first round out.. Spo is not a good coach he is an average coach..


I think you're forgetting what Spoelstra has done with all these awful Miami teams these past few years. You can't really be a "coach" when you have LeBron on your team, someone who refuses to be coached. And as such, him being who he is, Spo was limited in what he can do. Sure Miami is in a weak division and also in the eastern conference, but given what his roster makeup has been every single year since, to do what he has with those teams is a pretty big accomplishment. There's a reason why he's been one of the longest tenured coaches in the league. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

I think 2016-2017 says it all in terms of what he can do. The first half of the season his team was 11-30 and lottery bound, and he turned it around in the second half of the season by flipping that record to 30-11. Despite missing the playoffs, in the second half of the season they were top-10 in every statistical category. The only team in NBA history to finish the season at .500 after being at least 19 games below.

Re: Doc Rivers Warned About Coaching LeBron James

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 1:02 pm
by Rollie
koningcosmo wrote:
Indomitable wrote:
koningcosmo wrote:Tyronn Lue. ...
Luke Walton. ...
Mike Brown. ...
David Blatt. ...
Paul Silas. ...
Brendan Malone
Erik Spoelstra

we going to act any of these coaches are some with that kind of personality, command, authority, acumen, intellect??? Lebron never had a good coach like Doc so we wouldnt know how that would work out.

Spoelstra and Malone are good or coaches.

Blatt is a big question mark. He was great overseas and sabotaged by Lebron.


you crazy??? Brendan malone has been a head coach 2 seasons, 1995-96 and 2004-05, total wins 29 total loses 71. Damn fine coach if you ask me. You thinkin about mike malone i think??? Blatt was so good he never coached an nba team after the CAVS.

only good one he had is spoelstra and he had just 2 years of experience as an headcoach. Argument could be made spoelstra wasnt nearly as good then as he is now.


LeBron was held in check by Riley, not Spoelstra.

Re: Doc Rivers Warned About Coaching LeBron James

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 1:20 pm
by TimRobbins
CycklopsGT wrote:
TimRobbins wrote:Now that Lebron has shown the first signs of a significant decline, all the hate is coming out of the woodwork. Lebron seems to be one of the most disliked people around the league. Virtually nobody wants part of him he second he's not a top 3 player.

That's the way it's always been. Some people treat others like garbage while they're on top of the mountain, and the minute age takes away their talent, looks, strength, whatever it may be, all that negative energy explodes in their face.


I think Lebron is hated far more than others. He’ll always have his money, but I think he’ll leave the league with very few friends.

Re: Doc Rivers Warned About Coaching LeBron James

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 1:37 pm
by Hipster Doofus
It is known.

Re: Doc Rivers Warned About Coaching LeBron James

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 2:20 pm
by Jody Smokz
That's not entirely true. Spo still had to coach him and not be intimidated by his place in the organization. Riley EMPOWERED Spo to be the coach and stood on that like a great GM/Pres would. The difference between Spo and a lot of others is that they wouldn't do that. This is how coaches like Fizdale get fired from the Grizz b/c players like Marc Gasol kick up a fuss to the front office.

Rollie wrote:
koningcosmo wrote:
Indomitable wrote:Spoelstra and Malone are good or coaches.

Blatt is a big question mark. He was great overseas and sabotaged by Lebron.


you crazy??? Brendan malone has been a head coach 2 seasons, 1995-96 and 2004-05, total wins 29 total loses 71. Damn fine coach if you ask me. You thinkin about mike malone i think??? Blatt was so good he never coached an nba team after the CAVS.

only good one he had is spoelstra and he had just 2 years of experience as an headcoach. Argument could be made spoelstra wasnt nearly as good then as he is now.


LeBron was held in check by Riley, not Spoelstra.

Re: Doc Rivers Warned About Coaching LeBron James

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:00 pm
by LesGrossman
Jody Smokz wrote:That's not entirely true. Spo still had to coach him and not be intimidated by his place in the organization. Riley EMPOWERED Spo to be the coach and stood on that like a great GM/Pres would. The difference between Spo and a lot of others is that they wouldn't do that. This is how coaches like Fizdale get fired from the Grizz b/c players like Marc Gasol kick up a fuss to the front office.

Rollie wrote:
koningcosmo wrote:
you crazy??? Brendan malone has been a head coach 2 seasons, 1995-96 and 2004-05, total wins 29 total loses 71. Damn fine coach if you ask me. You thinkin about mike malone i think??? Blatt was so good he never coached an nba team after the CAVS.

only good one he had is spoelstra and he had just 2 years of experience as an headcoach. Argument could be made spoelstra wasnt nearly as good then as he is now.


LeBron was held in check by Riley, not Spoelstra.

Some guys still heavily in denial of who LeBron really is, what his "success" actually means and how he "earned" it. Those who saw it through the years have been labeled as "haters", like that can take away from any valid and obvious observation.
- LeBron is obsessed with his own presentation in the public more than anything; more than wins, titles, friendship, loyality.
- LeBron always wants all the spotlight on him. He has never ever been able to share, not in Cleveland 1, not in Miami, not in Cleveland 2 and certainly not in LA. He wants ALL the attention on and off the court, which is why he has been disliked or rejected by any other superstar.
- He has shown to be uncoachable. The best coach he ever had the privilege to work with was obviously David Blatt; a guy who has proven to be capable of establishing and succeeding with his own system, being the master mind of his team. He was driven out of town by LeBron and his posse; the justification usually being a championship that, as every intelligent being was able to see, was more gifted both by the league (suspensions in one game, Curry tagged with 3! questionable fouls in the other) and the GSW than earned (and if anyone earned it, it was Kyrie).
- His ego is f**ked up beyond repair. To this day, he acts like he owns the league. Notice how he subtlety elevates himself over all team mates. He actually has a pillow that makes him sit even higher than his centers, did you notice that? Either he has hemoorrhoids, or its a pure ego/showman thing. He is not able to indulge any kind of criticism. Whenever faced with a critical question he resorts to "i have money and titles, i dont care for your opinion". He actually declared himself the G.O.A.T. to the amusement of 99.9% of the players.
- He is a terrible team mate. He frequently throws his team mates under the bus, now he even does it in public when begging for a trade of 9 young high potentials just to akquire AD. Kyrie had enough of his BS, Kawhi and KD publicly stated they are not interested in playing beside him ("under him" would be more appropriate).

You can continue to live in denial, its a common thing with fans. Just at some point dont forget to change your tune. I expect a lot more stories to break out in about 5 years and by that time, many guys on realgm will be busy deleting their posts from the past 15 years :lol:

Re: Doc Rivers Warned About Coaching LeBron James

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:14 pm
by Jody Smokz
You're making a lot of strong assumptions about my view of Lebron but I'll let you cook on.

LesGrossman wrote:
Jody Smokz wrote:That's not entirely true. Spo still had to coach him and not be intimidated by his place in the organization. Riley EMPOWERED Spo to be the coach and stood on that like a great GM/Pres would. The difference between Spo and a lot of others is that they wouldn't do that. This is how coaches like Fizdale get fired from the Grizz b/c players like Marc Gasol kick up a fuss to the front office.

Rollie wrote:
LeBron was held in check by Riley, not Spoelstra.

Some guys still heavily in denial of who LeBron really is, what his "success" actually means and how he "earned" it. Those who saw it through the years have been labeled as "haters", like that can take away from any valid and obvious observation.
- LeBron is obsessed with his own presentation in the public more than anything; more than wins, titles, friendship, loyality.
- LeBron always wants all the spotlight on him. He has never ever been able to share, not in Cleveland 1, not in Miami, not in Cleveland 2 and certainly not in LA. He wants ALL the attention on and off the court, which is why he has been disliked or rejected by any other superstar.
- He has shown to be uncoachable. The best coach he ever had the privilege to work with was obviously David Blatt; a guy who has proven to be capable of establishing and succeeding with his own system, being the master mind of his team. He was driven out of town by LeBron and his posse; the justification usually being a championship that, as every intelligent being was able to see, was more gifted both by the league (suspensions in one game, Curry tagged with 3! questionable fouls in the other) and the GSW than earned (and if anyone earned it, it was Kyrie).
- His ego is f**ked up beyond repair. To this day, he acts like he owns the league. Notice how he subtlety elevates himself over all team mates. He actually has a pillow that makes him sit even higher than his centers, did you notice that? Either he has hemoorrhoids, or its a pure ego/showman thing. He is not able to indulge any kind of criticism. Whenever faced with a critical question he resorts to "i have money and titles, i dont care for your opinion". He actually declared himself the G.O.A.T. to the amusement of 99.9% of the players.
- He is a terrible team mate. He frequently throws his team mates under the bus, now he even does it in public when begging for a trade of 9 young high potentials just to akquire AD. Kyrie had enough of his BS, Kawhi and KD publicly stated they are not interested in playing beside him ("under him" would be more appropriate).

You can continue to live in denial, its a common thing with fans. Just at some point dont forget to change your tune. I expect a lot more stories to break out in about 5 years and by that time, many guys on realgm will be busy deleting their posts from the past 15 years :lol:

Re: Doc Rivers Warned About Coaching LeBron James

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 5:57 pm
by johanliebert
What coach is as intelligent as lebron?

I really doubt doc was coaching Chris Paul either another guy with a very high bball iq, if doc could coach a team with cp3 he can coach bron.

Re: Doc Rivers Warned About Coaching LeBron James

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 5:58 pm
by johanliebert
LesGrossman wrote:
Jody Smokz wrote:That's not entirely true. Spo still had to coach him and not be intimidated by his place in the organization. Riley EMPOWERED Spo to be the coach and stood on that like a great GM/Pres would. The difference between Spo and a lot of others is that they wouldn't do that. This is how coaches like Fizdale get fired from the Grizz b/c players like Marc Gasol kick up a fuss to the front office.

Rollie wrote:
LeBron was held in check by Riley, not Spoelstra.

Some guys still heavily in denial of who LeBron really is, what his "success" actually means and how he "earned" it. Those who saw it through the years have been labeled as "haters", like that can take away from any valid and obvious observation.
- LeBron is obsessed with his own presentation in the public more than anything; more than wins, titles, friendship, loyality.
- LeBron always wants all the spotlight on him. He has never ever been able to share, not in Cleveland 1, not in Miami, not in Cleveland 2 and certainly not in LA. He wants ALL the attention on and off the court, which is why he has been disliked or rejected by any other superstar.
- He has shown to be uncoachable. The best coach he ever had the privilege to work with was obviously David Blatt; a guy who has proven to be capable of establishing and succeeding with his own system, being the master mind of his team. He was driven out of town by LeBron and his posse; the justification usually being a championship that, as every intelligent being was able to see, was more gifted both by the league (suspensions in one game, Curry tagged with 3! questionable fouls in the other) and the GSW than earned (and if anyone earned it, it was Kyrie).
- His ego is f**ked up beyond repair. To this day, he acts like he owns the league. Notice how he subtlety elevates himself over all team mates. He actually has a pillow that makes him sit even higher than his centers, did you notice that? Either he has hemoorrhoids, or its a pure ego/showman thing. He is not able to indulge any kind of criticism. Whenever faced with a critical question he resorts to "i have money and titles, i dont care for your opinion". He actually declared himself the G.O.A.T. to the amusement of 99.9% of the players.
- He is a terrible team mate. He frequently throws his team mates under the bus, now he even does it in public when begging for a trade of 9 young high potentials just to akquire AD. Kyrie had enough of his BS, Kawhi and KD publicly stated they are not interested in playing beside him ("under him" would be more appropriate).

You can continue to live in denial, its a common thing with fans. Just at some point dont forget to change your tune. I expect a lot more stories to break out in about 5 years and by that time, many guys on realgm will be busy deleting their posts from the past 15 years :lol:

I’ve read many ex pros and teammates say he’s a great teammate...it’s really fanantics online with no ties to the nba who claim he’s a bad teammate.

Re: Doc Rivers Warned About Coaching LeBron James

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 6:02 pm
by johanliebert
LesGrossman wrote:
Jody Smokz wrote:That's not entirely true. Spo still had to coach him and not be intimidated by his place in the organization. Riley EMPOWERED Spo to be the coach and stood on that like a great GM/Pres would. The difference between Spo and a lot of others is that they wouldn't do that. This is how coaches like Fizdale get fired from the Grizz b/c players like Marc Gasol kick up a fuss to the front office.

Rollie wrote:
LeBron was held in check by Riley, not Spoelstra.

Some guys still heavily in denial of who LeBron really is, what his "success" actually means and how he "earned" it. Those who saw it through the years have been labeled as "haters", like that can take away from any valid and obvious observation.
- LeBron is obsessed with his own presentation in the public more than anything; more than wins, titles, friendship, loyality.
- LeBron always wants all the spotlight on him. He has never ever been able to share, not in Cleveland 1, not in Miami, not in Cleveland 2 and certainly not in LA. He wants ALL the attention on and off the court, which is why he has been disliked or rejected by any other superstar.
- He has shown to be uncoachable. The best coach he ever had the privilege to work with was obviously David Blatt; a guy who has proven to be capable of establishing and succeeding with his own system, being the master mind of his team. He was driven out of town by LeBron and his posse; the justification usually being a championship that, as every intelligent being was able to see, was more gifted both by the league (suspensions in one game, Curry tagged with 3! questionable fouls in the other) and the GSW than earned (and if anyone earned it, it was Kyrie).
- His ego is f**ked up beyond repair. To this day, he acts like he owns the league. Notice how he subtlety elevates himself over all team mates. He actually has a pillow that makes him sit even higher than his centers, did you notice that? Either he has hemoorrhoids, or its a pure ego/showman thing. He is not able to indulge any kind of criticism. Whenever faced with a critical question he resorts to "i have money and titles, i dont care for your opinion". He actually declared himself the G.O.A.T. to the amusement of 99.9% of the players.
- He is a terrible team mate. He frequently throws his team mates under the bus, now he even does it in public when begging for a trade of 9 young high potentials just to akquire AD. Kyrie had enough of his BS, Kawhi and KD publicly stated they are not interested in playing beside him ("under him" would be more appropriate).

You can continue to live in denial, its a common thing with fans. Just at some point dont forget to change your tune. I expect a lot more stories to break out in about 5 years and by that time, many guys on realgm will be busy deleting their posts from the past 15 years :lol:

You really have an obsession with bron.