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The Oklahoma City Thunder engaged both the Los Angeles Clippers and Toronto Raptors on a trade for Paul George.
George was willing to join the Raptors had Kawhi Leonard agreed to re-sign.
Sam Presti tried to include Russell Westbrook in the package along with George that was centered on Pascal Siakam as the centerpiece. Masai Ujiri, however, wasn't interested in executing that trade.
Ultimately, the Clippers acquired George with Leonard agreeing to sign as well.
Harold_and_Kumar wrote:What if the 10 incher was overrated and the 4 incher was too small for any playing time, but the 7 incher was a perfect fit for our roster and the 5 incher was good for specific situations, like backdoor cuts?
Harold_and_Kumar wrote:What if the 10 incher was overrated and the 4 incher was too small for any playing time, but the 7 incher was a perfect fit for our roster and the 5 incher was good for specific situations, like backdoor cuts?
dsg2021 wrote:So TOR would of rather had Kawhi, PG, and Siakam (and probably some extra picks).. than Kawhi, PG, and Westbrook. I would agree, based simply on Westbrook's age to Siakam's, and what we saw Siakam do already in the last year!
Obviously, it's only Siakam and great veteran pieces right now. But TOR captured the last title and have Siakam as a future cornerstone.
Not sure if sarcasm. Johnny Bball wrote:dsg2021 wrote:So TOR would of rather had Kawhi, PG, and Siakam (and probably some extra picks).. than Kawhi, PG, and Westbrook. I would agree, based simply on Westbrook's age to Siakam's, and what we saw Siakam do already in the last year!
Obviously, it's only Siakam and great veteran pieces right now. But TOR captured the last title and have Siakam as a future cornerstone.
alienpick wrote:Im sure Masai would have figured out a PG trade but NOT with Westbrick attached.
Obviously this was more Kawhis call. Both him and PG are LA born guys, so obviously the Clips were their first choice. Masai didn’t have much say in this, besides no thank you to Westbrook
dsg2021 wrote:Johnny Bball wrote:dsg2021 wrote:So TOR would of rather had Kawhi, PG, and Siakam (and probably some extra picks).. than Kawhi, PG, and Westbrook. I would agree, based simply on Westbrook's age to Siakam's, and what we saw Siakam do already in the last year!
Obviously, it's only Siakam and great veteran pieces right now. But TOR captured the last title and have Siakam as a future cornerstone.
When you're talking about basketball talent today, Westbrook is better than Siakam, period. Not sarcasm..
That's what basketball is about in the end too.
Obviously, you start to look at contracts, ages, and media perception, and all that comes into you thinking it's sarcasm.. but really, in truth.. the second trio is better than the first on a basketball court today.
TOR was probably still smart to pass on it tho. Seems like Kawhi still wouldn't have committed to Westbrook and PG in TOR, and it also seems like TOR was going to lose even more pieces than Siakam, like FVV and Lowry. LAC also had the extra picks to spare from the Griffin/CP3 trades, and the rotation pieces to keep afterwards that TOR would have lost (Siakam, FVV, Lowry, picks gone, but.. LAC still has Bev, Lou, Mont, and more). LAC was really building up for this summer, man. I'd still be happy if I was a TOR fan tho, to get the 2019 title and still have Siakam, than to worry about this debate. There was no wrong choice in what TOR did or could have done, imo.
Johnny Bball wrote:dsg2021 wrote:Johnny Bball wrote:
When you're talking about basketball talent today, Westbrook is better than Siakam, period. Not sarcasm..
That's what basketball is about in the end too.
Obviously, you start to look at contracts, ages, and media perception, and all that comes into you thinking it's sarcasm.. but really, in truth.. the second trio is better than the first on a basketball court today.
TOR was probably still smart to pass on it tho. Seems like Kawhi still wouldn't have committed to Westbrook and PG in TOR, and it also seems like TOR was going to lose even more pieces than Siakam, like FVV and Lowry. LAC also had the extra picks to spare from the Griffin/CP3 trades, and the rotation pieces to keep afterwards that TOR would have lost (Siakam, FVV, Lowry, picks gone, but.. LAC still has Bev, Lou, Mont, and more). LAC was really building up for this summer, man. I'd still be happy if I was a TOR fan tho, to get the 2019 title and still have Siakam, than to worry about this debate. There was no wrong choice in what TOR did or could have done, imo.
Didn't understand what you meant but yeah this is obviously a far huger trade that has to include at a minimum Lowry, Ibaka to match salaries and tons of picks with Siakam. And no, Westbrook isn't trash like some people say, even after last season. This headline and content is way too simple to be real or factual.
Westbrook was not the deal breaker here. It was the picks/youth. They obviously didn't have to include/take Westbrook seeing as the trade that was juts made did not.
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