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Re: United States Eliminated From World Cup With Loss To France 

Post#41 » by arasu » Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:43 am

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arasu wrote:[FDR was a socialist, and after claiming in his first campaign that his predecessor interfered too much with the markets--essentially promising he would do the opposite of what the New Deal became--he then reneged on his campaign promises and implemented countless failed policies that further ruined the economy and turned what should have been a temporary downturn into the worst economic disaster in U.S. history. His infrastructure projects were very valuable though, and the U.S. has relied heavily on that infrastructure through most of the years since. The only policies of the New Deal that made any sense were those that emphasized infrastructure projects. Such projects should be emphasized during the good times though, not during the worst of times. Unfortunately, that's not how people get things done. They wait for disaster. Maybe AOC will be old enough to be elected president when the next disaster hits, and she will help it get worse, and eventually a generation raised on hardship will emerge and bring everything back out of the mire. And the spoiled brats that dominate our recent generations will be all but extinct.


Ignoring the fact that you could not properly identify a socialist even if they smacked you in a face with a copy of the Communist Manifesto, even our heavily propagandised history teachers would laugh you out of the room for this ahistorical nonsense.

Your comment contains nothing to refute mine. I've studied this subject in depth. Socialism was sweeping across the West in the post-WWI era, which is why FDR had to lie on the campaign trail that he was pro-free market, only to turn his back on capitalism, creating government approved industries that were nearly as much top down, non-free market, and government controlled as any full blown communist economy, which is why he failed so colossally. Maybe it is you who has been propagandized by history teachers. I came to the conclusion that FDR was a socialist in practice by looking at his actual policies, not by hearing someone else tell me it's so.
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Re: United States Eliminated From World Cup With Loss To France 

Post#42 » by valrond1 » Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:25 am

Came to see comments about basketball.
Found people talking about 80 years ago and socialism... :crazy:
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Post#43 » by liamliam1234 » Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:41 am

arasu wrote:Your comment contains nothing to refute mine. I've studied this subject in depth. Socialism was sweeping across the West in the post-WWI era, which is why FDR had to lie on the campaign trail that he was pro-free market, only to turn his back on capitalism, creating government approved industries that were nearly as much top down, non-free market, and government controlled as any full blown communist economy, which is why he failed so colossally. Maybe it is you who has been propagandized by history teachers. I came to the conclusion that FDR was a socialist in practice by looking at his actual policies, not by hearing someone else tell me it's so.


I can only imagine what slack-jawed alt-right drivel constitutes the source of your “in-depth” studies. Amazing how despite FDR’s near-universal reputation as one of the greatest presidents, no socialist sincerely claims him as one of their own. :noway:
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Re: United States Eliminated From World Cup With Loss To France 

Post#44 » by alienpick » Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:55 am

That’s what you get for snubbing Carmelo. As other superstars turned you down, Carmelo never turned you down. Even when he was a superstar player and didn’t need to play in FIBA; he showed up. He’s team USAs highest achieving player (most points, medals, etc) and you snubbed him when he needed you most. Karmas a bitch Colangelo, you ungrateful ****
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Re: United States Eliminated From World Cup With Loss To France 

Post#45 » by jozef » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:37 am

NBA seasons of 82+ games are extremely tough so there is no surprise a lot of people want to rest out of basketball in the summer.
Still there shoud be a group of top 30 players available.

To be honest I did not like Mike Krzyzewski's teams as far as X's and O's and Greg Poppovich have been disappointment as well. I have hoped in Steve Kerr bringing few pieces off his Warriors playbook but it did not happen. If you want to look for crisp passing and execution in the World Cup then watch Australia.

With so many stars pulling off, the U.S. team should have been created in more classic old-school way. Three centers, no power forward, seven SG/SF and two PGs is a good base for confusion. No identity. Also FIBA rules makes a game less open for perimeter slashers. Gobert was +26 in 34 minutes and France were -16 in 6 minutes without him. It would not happen with two U.S. bigs on the floor. Well, U.S. bigs played total of 16 minutes in the game, no surprise the team got outrebounded by 16.
Jumpshooters who can run the floor side-to-side and play off the ball are very important. Middleton was probably the only one fitting that role. Plus 5 in the 10-point loss to France and +17 in 1-point OT win over Turkey.

If I would be U.S. coach for that game versus France then my starting lineup would be: PG Kemba Walker , SG Donovan Mitchell, SF Khris Middleton, PF Myles Turner, C Mason Plumlee. Key backup roles: Joe Harris for Middleton in shooter role, Brook Lopez for Plumlee or Turner. Go small at PF with Harrison Barnes or Jaylen Brown when Rudy Gobert sits on the bench. I think the players would setle in the roles and the team would find its identity. That's what happened in positive way with the Czech NT.
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Re: United States Eliminated From World Cup With Loss To France 

Post#46 » by br7knicks » Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:30 am

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PoundTown wrote:As a Canadian fan, I am pumped about this and not because you lost; I won't ever cheer for France in anything. I just hope this gets the US stars back in the games, so the Canadian NBA players will also join. It's the Rich Paul's of the world who are scaring players about playing in these tournaments. As a sports fan, the greed of these agents is super annoying and along with the stupid FIBA timelines making it tougher for these players are the main two things bringing down the participation in these events. I think you are guaranteed to see an American team at the Olympics next year where the only guys that have a chance of making it from this roster are Kemba and Donovan.

Fading patriotism, faith, and morals among the younger generations will make this worse. The socialist/Communist agenda perpetuated by anti americans like AOC, Omar, and Talib, pretending everything that they don't agree with is racism doesn't help and neither does that ideology being pushed by colleges. Its going to get much worse before it gets better. France earned that win and it just goes to show that the US team didnt have their heart in it. Just going through the motions.


This is quite possibly the most moronic thing I've ever read on this forum. You're delusional.


Well, no. He's not wrong with what he said. He just picked the wrong forum and thread to write that.

It just makes no sense here

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Re: United States Eliminated From World Cup With Loss To France 

Post#47 » by IAMZOOTED2 » Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:41 am

alienpick wrote:That’s what you get for snubbing Carmelo. As other superstars turned you down, Carmelo never turned you down. Even when he was a superstar player and didn’t need to play in FIBA; he showed up. He’s team USAs highest achieving player (most points, medals, etc) and you snubbed him when he needed you most. Karmas a bitch Colangelo, you ungrateful ****


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Re: United States Eliminated From World Cup With Loss To France 

Post#48 » by SkyhookinUrMom » Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:50 am

USA team lost cause communists

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Post#49 » by liamliam1234 » Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:51 am

br7knicks wrote:Well, no. He's not wrong with what he said. He just picked the wrong forum and thread to write that.


Oh, goody, another one scared of the spooky coloured people pushing for healthcare. Woe be our profound moral decay. :falloff:
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Post#50 » by anatomicbomb » Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:52 am

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PoundTown wrote:As a Canadian fan, I am pumped about this and not because you lost; I won't ever cheer for France in anything. I just hope this gets the US stars back in the games, so the Canadian NBA players will also join. It's the Rich Paul's of the world who are scaring players about playing in these tournaments. As a sports fan, the greed of these agents is super annoying and along with the stupid FIBA timelines making it tougher for these players are the main two things bringing down the participation in these events. I think you are guaranteed to see an American team at the Olympics next year where the only guys that have a chance of making it from this roster are Kemba and Donovan.

Fading patriotism, faith, and morals among the younger generations will make this worse. The socialist/Communist agenda perpetuated by anti americans like AOC, Omar, and Talib, pretending everything that they don't agree with is racism doesn't help and neither does that ideology being pushed by colleges. Its going to get much worse before it gets better. France earned that win and it just goes to show that the US team didnt have their heart in it. Just going through the motions.


:lol: :lol: :lol: Talk about going out of your way to make an unrelated point.

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Re: United States Eliminated From World Cup With Loss To France 

Post#51 » by Vegeta10176 » Thu Sep 12, 2019 1:53 pm

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Blue_and_Whte wrote:Fading patriotism, faith, and morals among the younger generations will make this worse. The socialist/Communist agenda perpetuated by anti americans like AOC, Omar, and Talib, pretending everything that they don't agree with is racism doesn't help and neither does that ideology being pushed by colleges. Its going to get much worse before it gets better. France earned that win and it just goes to show that the US team didnt have their heart in it. Just going through the motions.


Out of curiosity, do you consider Franklin D. Roosevelt, Harry Truman, and Dwight D Eisenhower as communists? Because those women are simply echoing a return to the policies of the New Deal.

FDR was a socialist, and after claiming in his first campaign that his predecessor interfered too much with the markets--essentially promising he would do the opposite of what the New Deal became--he then reneged on his campaign promises and implemented countless failed policies that further ruined the economy and turned what should have been a temporary downturn into the worst economic disaster in U.S. history. His infrastructure projects were very valuable though, and the U.S. has relied heavily on that infrastructure through most of the years since. The only policies of the New Deal that made any sense were those that emphasized infrastructure projects. Such projects should be emphasized during the good times though, not during the worst of times. Unfortunately, that's not how people get things done. They wait for disaster. Maybe AOC will be old enough to be elected president when the next disaster hits, and she will help it get worse, and eventually a generation raised on hardship will emerge and bring everything back out of the mire. And the spoiled brats that dominate our recent generations will be all but extinct.



Just stop it man.. Your such a tool I am sure you enjoy roads and water and the military and the fire department and police force and maybe know someone older who uses Medicare and other social programs that exist.. You also must know the USA pays double the amount for health care per capita of any developed nation and is the only developed nation without universal coverage
. You must have seen how the housing crisis that lead to the GFC happened when the rich basically regulated themselves paying S&P and Moody's etc for rating there bonds.. You must have seen how the latest 2 trillion tax cut lead to companies making share buy backs and did not benefit any of the working class.. You must see the crumbling infrastructure and the clear signs of yet another recession.. You must see people's productivity has increased many times over and yet wages have been stagnant.. Noone btw is looking to be a communist and the current format is not pure capitalism.. The issue is what balance there should be and where does a free market work and where does it fail.. It's clear it fails to regulate itself greed and immediate drive for profit take over.. Hence some regulation is required.. The crumbling infrastructure has not been fixed by the free market.. Wages for more productive employees don't get lifted by a free market.. It has clearly lead to increased health costs.. Poisoned water not fixed by the free market.. Corporations able to donate to candidates has lead to a failure in democracy where 90 percent of ppl want common sense gun control reform such as compulsory background checks and yet no legislation has passed. The point is you already live in a mixed system it's about getting that mixed system right.. You can engage in a debate on either side you want but nobody is suggesting a take over of Amazon Facebook Apple or any other corporation you may love.. ppl are suggesting the tax system should be changed where Amazon makes 10billion in profit and pays zero taxes.. But please make some actual arguments about policy..
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Re: United States Eliminated From World Cup With Loss To France 

Post#52 » by br7knicks » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:08 pm

liamliam1234 wrote:
br7knicks wrote:Well, no. He's not wrong with what he said. He just picked the wrong forum and thread to write that.


Oh, goody, another one scared of the spooky coloured people pushing for healthcare. Woe be our profound moral decay. :falloff:


Uh oh. Someone's showing their true character.

Enjoy being a right-winged racist.


Not all right winged people are, but you're not painting a pretty picture for yourself.

Some of us have good moral character. Hopefully you get there one day, kid. When you graduate high school, the real world will hopefully help set you straight and apart from problematic people and groups.

The KKK is not one you should want to be a part of. Hopefully you don't continue down your path towards them.
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Re: United States Eliminated From World Cup With Loss To France 

Post#53 » by br7knicks » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:10 pm

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Blue_and_Whte wrote:
PoundTown wrote:As a Canadian fan, I am pumped about this and not because you lost; I won't ever cheer for France in anything. I just hope this gets the US stars back in the games, so the Canadian NBA players will also join. It's the Rich Paul's of the world who are scaring players about playing in these tournaments. As a sports fan, the greed of these agents is super annoying and along with the stupid FIBA timelines making it tougher for these players are the main two things bringing down the participation in these events. I think you are guaranteed to see an American team at the Olympics next year where the only guys that have a chance of making it from this roster are Kemba and Donovan.

Fading patriotism, faith, and morals among the younger generations will make this worse. The socialist/Communist agenda perpetuated by anti americans like AOC, Omar, and Talib, pretending everything that they don't agree with is racism doesn't help and neither does that ideology being pushed by colleges. Its going to get much worse before it gets better. France earned that win and it just goes to show that the US team didnt have their heart in it. Just going through the motions.


:lol: :lol: :lol: Talk about going out of your way to make an unrelated point.

"let me just say two things: 1) old man yells at cloud, and 2) something about basketball so it seems like there was a reason for (1)"


Someone else with a brain in here.


There aren't many; please stick around.
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Re: United States Eliminated From World Cup With Loss To France 

Post#54 » by liamliam1234 » Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:19 pm

br7knicks wrote:
liamliam1234 wrote:
br7knicks wrote:Well, no. He's not wrong with what he said. He just picked the wrong forum and thread to write that.


Oh, goody, another one scared of the spooky coloured people pushing for healthcare. Woe be our profound moral decay. :falloff:


Uh oh. Someone's showing their true character.

Enjoy being a right-winged racist.


Not all right winged people are, but you're not painting a pretty picture for yourself.

Some of us have good moral character. Hopefully you get there one day, kid. When you graduate high school, the real world will hopefully help set you straight and apart from problematic people and groups.

The KKK is not one you should want to be a part of. Hopefully you don't continue down your path towards them.


Cool, so you also barely understand how to read. Par for the course, I suppose.

Here is a hint: when you say “He is not wrong with what he said,” that means you are endorsing the obviously racist and regressive principles he espoused. And you want to claim “good moral character”. :nonono:
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Re: United States Eliminated From World Cup With Loss To France 

Post#55 » by Blue_and_Whte » Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:22 pm

anatomicbomb wrote:
Blue_and_Whte wrote:
PoundTown wrote:As a Canadian fan, I am pumped about this and not because you lost; I won't ever cheer for France in anything. I just hope this gets the US stars back in the games, so the Canadian NBA players will also join. It's the Rich Paul's of the world who are scaring players about playing in these tournaments. As a sports fan, the greed of these agents is super annoying and along with the stupid FIBA timelines making it tougher for these players are the main two things bringing down the participation in these events. I think you are guaranteed to see an American team at the Olympics next year where the only guys that have a chance of making it from this roster are Kemba and Donovan.

Fading patriotism, faith, and morals among the younger generations will make this worse. The socialist/Communist agenda perpetuated by anti americans like AOC, Omar, and Talib, pretending everything that they don't agree with is racism doesn't help and neither does that ideology being pushed by colleges. Its going to get much worse before it gets better. France earned that win and it just goes to show that the US team didnt have their heart in it. Just going through the motions.

:lol: :lol: :lol: Talk about going out of your way to make an unrelated point.

"let me just say two things: 1) old man yells at cloud, and 2) something about basketball so it seems like there was a reason for (1)"
First I’m not old and second I’m not wrong. Colleges mostly push socialist agendas which has had an impact on patriotism among the younger crowd. These are basics facts.i pointed out that squad clown show because they continue the message. Luckily they’re fading in mediocrity.
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Re: United States Eliminated From World Cup With Loss To France 

Post#56 » by Vegeta10176 » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:21 pm

Blue_and_Whte wrote:
anatomicbomb wrote:
Blue_and_Whte wrote:Fading patriotism, faith, and morals among the younger generations will make this worse. The socialist/Communist agenda perpetuated by anti americans like AOC, Omar, and Talib, pretending everything that they don't agree with is racism doesn't help and neither does that ideology being pushed by colleges. Its going to get much worse before it gets better. France earned that win and it just goes to show that the US team didnt have their heart in it. Just going through the motions.

:lol: :lol: :lol: Talk about going out of your way to make an unrelated point.

"let me just say two things: 1) old man yells at cloud, and 2) something about basketball so it seems like there was a reason for (1)"
First I’m not old and second I’m not wrong. Colleges mostly push socialist agendas which has had an impact on patriotism among the younger crowd. These are basics facts.i pointed out that squad clown show because they continue the message. Luckily they’re fading in mediocrity.



Except 1 your wrong as US lost before in the early 2000s and didn't even medal.. None of these ppl around.. And 2 what facts you have not stated 1 just spouted crap..
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Re: United States Eliminated From World Cup With Loss To France 

Post#57 » by knobhillfarms » Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:14 pm

What the celtics are out of the world cup? That will be the celtics this year with their lineup of walker, tatum and brown.. They will even be worse than last year.
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Re: United States Eliminated From World Cup With Loss To France 

Post#58 » by perempe20 » Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:15 pm

This is the worst ad for the NBA. Stern would have never let this happen as he would have kicked their *sses and would have not allowed them to fly back to the USA in the "good old days".

Even the World Cup Qualifying Team would have achieved at least the same results.
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Post#59 » by LAKESHOW » Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:02 pm

"Colangelo felt ankle injuries sustained by Jayson Tatum during the World Cup and Kyle Kuzma just before the tournament hurt the U.S. chances in China, noting that the team felt Kuzma was going to be a big help."
Not really Tatum. But Kuzmas shooting won the game vs. auatralia. And then after Kuzma left...well, we all know what happened. With Kuzma that was our last meaningful victory. Without Kuz, 7th place.
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Re: United States Eliminated From World Cup With Loss To France 

Post#60 » by AK47MVP » Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:14 pm

alienpick wrote:So basically the Celtics can’t make the playoffs in the West?


If Tatum is injured for most important games... I guess yes.

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