Jon Horst: Bucks Will Offer Giannis Antetokounmpo A Supermax Extension A Year From Now

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Jon Horst: Bucks Will Offer Giannis Antetokounmpo A Supermax Extension A Year From Now 

Post#1 » by RealGM Wiretap » Sat Sep 14, 2019 7:50 pm

Jon Horst addressed the contract situation surrounding Giannis Antetokounmpo, saying that the Milwaukee Bucks will offer the league MVP a supermax extension when he becomes eligible in a year. 


“The answer for now is that we can’t negotiate anything. So Giannis, basically a year from now will be eligible for a supermax extension. At that time, of course, he will be offered a supermax extension," Horst told Fox Wisconsin.


Antetokounmpo previously said that a potential run to the NBA Finals this upcoming season could be the deciding factor in whether he re-signs with the team. 

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Post#2 » by The_Hater » Sat Sep 14, 2019 8:56 pm

It’s only news if the Bucks planned to offer Giannis anything different.
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Re: Jon Horst: Bucks Will Offer Giannis Antetokounmpo A Supermax Extension A Year From Now 

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Re: Jon Horst: Bucks Will Offer Giannis Antetokounmpo A Supermax Extension A Year From Now 

Post#5 » by Ayt » Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:20 am

Antetokounmpo previously said that a potential run to the NBA Finals this upcoming season could be the deciding factor in whether he re-signs with the team.


No, he hasn't said that.
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Re: Jon Horst: Bucks Will Offer Giannis Antetokounmpo A Supermax Extension A Year From Now 

Post#6 » by TheCage4 » Sun Sep 15, 2019 6:36 am

As much as I want to believe he’ll accept and stay in Milwaukee, if only for the sake of having a semblance of superstar parity in the league, I just know it won’t be the case.
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Re: Jon Horst: Bucks Will Offer Giannis Antetokounmpo A Supermax Extension A Year From Now 

Post#7 » by Sam195 » Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:01 am

TheCage4 wrote:As much as I want to believe he’ll accept and stay in Milwaukee, if only for the sake of having a semblance of superstar parity in the league, I just know it won’t be the case.


I predict Giannis will become the third superstar/franchise player to reject the supermax after Kawhi Leonard and Anthony Davis. The latter two were eligible and despite previous injury/durability issues decided to roll the dice passing on the sizable amount of guaranteed money (including being able to sign the extension one full season in advance) and forced trades. In Davis' case he landed in his desired destination in the Lakers with his bird rights. In Kawhi's case he was traded to Toronto but made most of that pit stop by winning a title and revealed the roadmap to make up that supermax money as a ufa by inking a 2+1 deal to gain early bird rights with your new team his being the Clippers and ink a 4 year max at 35% of the cap two seasons later (after accruing 10 seasons of nba experience) in a bigger/major market like LA with more endorsement income potential off the court.The supermax is not a big enough incentive to stop superstars from jumping from small market teams to bigger ones. We have seen two superstars in Kyrie Irving (force a trade from Cavs to Celtics) and Paul George (force a trade from Pacers to Thunder) despite likely being a season away from meeting the supermax criteria with their original teams.

We have only seen 4 guards who deserve the supermax sign it in Stephen Curry, James Harden, Russell Westbrook and Damian Lillard. We have seen one player in John Wall get overpaid by signing it. We saw one team in Charlotte let their franchise player in Kemba Walker walk for nothing by refusing to pay him the supermax despite his eligibility. We have seen two teams in the Chicago Bulls and Sacramento Kings trade away their franchise players in Jimmy Butler and Demarcus Cousins abruptly to avoid having to pay the supermax once their players became eligible. And we have seen one player in Russell Westbrook sign the supermax and request a trade from OKC to Houston exactly 1 year into his contract.
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Re: Jon Horst: Bucks Will Offer Giannis Antetokounmpo A Supermax Extension A Year From Now 

Post#8 » by Sam195 » Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:15 am

The_Hater wrote:It’s only news if the Bucks planned to offer Giannis anything different.


Giannis is pissed he was not offered a 5 year max extension off his rookie deal in 2016 by the Bucks when the salary cap blew up. Bucks signed Giannis to 4 years $100M which is less than the max extensions Portland gave CJ McCollum and Washington gave Otto Porter via rfa offer sheet in 2017 at 4 years $106M. Giannis literally broke out the season after signing his extension and had Bucks offered him the 5 year max $143M deal a year prior he would have meet the Rose Rule bonus eligibility and seen his contract bumped to a 5 year $173M max (the money Blake Griffin got that summer). Giannis lost money by extending with the Bucks over the 5 seasons in 2016 post his rookie deal regardless how high the salary cap will be for the 2021-2022 season when his new contract starts. Rumor is Bucks Front office at the time took the 5 year Designated Player extension completely off the table because they were saving it for Jabari Parker (who they believed was the true franchise player). Minnesota Timberwolves made the same mistake 5 years earlier giving Kevin Love the shorter 4 year max deal and saving their own Designated Player Max for Ricky Rubio who was projected to be a superstar pg before he tore his acl and had other knee injuries.
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Re: Jon Horst: Bucks Will Offer Giannis Antetokounmpo A Supermax Extension A Year From Now 

Post#9 » by WRau1 » Sun Sep 15, 2019 12:12 pm

Sam195 wrote:
The_Hater wrote:It’s only news if the Bucks planned to offer Giannis anything different.


Giannis is pissed he was not offered a 5 year max extension off his rookie deal in 2016 by the Bucks when the salary cap blew up. Bucks signed Giannis to 4 years $100M which is less than the max extensions Portland gave CJ McCollum and Washington gave Otto Porter via rfa offer sheet in 2017 at 4 years $106M. Giannis literally broke out the season after signing his extension and had Bucks offered him the 5 year max $143M deal a year prior he would have meet the Rose Rule bonus eligibility and seen his contract bumped to a 5 year $173M max (the money Blake Griffin got that summer). Giannis lost money by extending with the Bucks over the 5 seasons in 2016 post his rookie deal regardless how high the salary cap will be for the 2021-2022 season when his new contract starts. Rumor is Bucks Front office at the time took the 5 year Designated Player extension completely off the table because they were saving it for Jabari Parker (who they believed was the true franchise player). Minnesota Timberwolves made the same mistake 5 years earlier giving Kevin Love the shorter 4 year max deal and saving their own Designated Player Max for Ricky Rubio who was projected to be a superstar pg before he tore his acl and had other knee injuries.


Giannis literally wanted the 4yr deal, what are you talking about?
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Re: Jon Horst: Bucks Will Offer Giannis Antetokounmpo A Supermax Extension A Year From Now 

Post#10 » by Sam195 » Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:14 pm

WRau1 wrote:
Sam195 wrote:
The_Hater wrote:It’s only news if the Bucks planned to offer Giannis anything different.


Giannis is pissed he was not offered a 5 year max extension off his rookie deal in 2016 by the Bucks when the salary cap blew up. Bucks signed Giannis to 4 years $100M which is less than the max extensions Portland gave CJ McCollum and Washington gave Otto Porter via rfa offer sheet in 2017 at 4 years $106M. Giannis literally broke out the season after signing his extension and had Bucks offered him the 5 year max $143M deal a year prior he would have meet the Rose Rule bonus eligibility and seen his contract bumped to a 5 year $173M max (the money Blake Griffin got that summer). Giannis lost money by extending with the Bucks over the 5 seasons in 2016 post his rookie deal regardless how high the salary cap will be for the 2021-2022 season when his new contract starts. Rumor is Bucks Front office at the time took the 5 year Designated Player extension completely off the table because they were saving it for Jabari Parker (who they believed was the true franchise player). Minnesota Timberwolves made the same mistake 5 years earlier giving Kevin Love the shorter 4 year max deal and saving their own Designated Player Max for Ricky Rubio who was projected to be a superstar pg before he tore his acl and had other knee injuries.


Giannis literally wanted the 4yr deal, what are you talking about?


He never wanted the 4 year deal it is horse sh** that John Horst is feeding people. Giannis wanted 5 years but Bucks thought Parker was the better player and only negotiated via the 4 year term. Giannis camp tried hard for 5 years but Bucks told Giannis he had to prove he was a 1B to Jabari's 1A and head to restricted free agency for a 5 year deal. The only reason Giannis inked the early extension was so he could send his signing bonus back to his family in Greece. The boy was living in a modest apartment taking uber and taxis to games and practices because he was sending all his money home. Bucks going to regret taking advantage of the Antetokounmpo family poverty. Disgusting.
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Re: Jon Horst: Bucks Will Offer Giannis Antetokounmpo A Supermax Extension A Year From Now 

Post#11 » by el_chupacabra » Mon Sep 16, 2019 1:08 am

Sam195 wrote:
WRau1 wrote:
Sam195 wrote:
Giannis is pissed he was not offered a 5 year max extension off his rookie deal in 2016 by the Bucks when the salary cap blew up. Bucks signed Giannis to 4 years $100M which is less than the max extensions Portland gave CJ McCollum and Washington gave Otto Porter via rfa offer sheet in 2017 at 4 years $106M. Giannis literally broke out the season after signing his extension and had Bucks offered him the 5 year max $143M deal a year prior he would have meet the Rose Rule bonus eligibility and seen his contract bumped to a 5 year $173M max (the money Blake Griffin got that summer). Giannis lost money by extending with the Bucks over the 5 seasons in 2016 post his rookie deal regardless how high the salary cap will be for the 2021-2022 season when his new contract starts. Rumor is Bucks Front office at the time took the 5 year Designated Player extension completely off the table because they were saving it for Jabari Parker (who they believed was the true franchise player). Minnesota Timberwolves made the same mistake 5 years earlier giving Kevin Love the shorter 4 year max deal and saving their own Designated Player Max for Ricky Rubio who was projected to be a superstar pg before he tore his acl and had other knee injuries.


Giannis literally wanted the 4yr deal, what are you talking about?


He never wanted the 4 year deal it is horse sh** that John Horst is feeding people. Giannis wanted 5 years but Bucks thought Parker was the better player and only negotiated via the 4 year term. Giannis camp tried hard for 5 years but Bucks told Giannis he had to prove he was a 1B to Jabari's 1A and head to restricted free agency for a 5 year deal. The only reason Giannis inked the early extension was so he could send his signing bonus back to his family in Greece. The boy was living in a modest apartment taking uber and taxis to games and practices because he was sending all his money home. Bucks going to regret taking advantage of the Antetokounmpo family poverty. Disgusting.


You literally have no idea what you’re talking about.

He’s staying, get over it.
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Re: Jon Horst: Bucks Will Offer Giannis Antetokounmpo A Supermax Extension A Year From Now 

Post#12 » by GBPackers47 » Mon Sep 16, 2019 1:48 am

Sam195 wrote:
TheCage4 wrote:As much as I want to believe he’ll accept and stay in Milwaukee, if only for the sake of having a semblance of superstar parity in the league, I just know it won’t be the case.


I predict Giannis will become the third superstar/franchise player to reject the supermax after Kawhi Leonard and Anthony Davis. The latter two were eligible and despite previous injury/durability issues decided to roll the dice passing on the sizable amount of guaranteed money (including being able to sign the extension one full season in advance) and forced trades. In Davis' case he landed in his desired destination in the Lakers with his bird rights. In Kawhi's case he was traded to Toronto but made most of that pit stop by winning a title and revealed the roadmap to make up that supermax money as a ufa by inking a 2+1 deal to gain early bird rights with your new team his being the Clippers and ink a 4 year max at 35% of the cap two seasons later (after accruing 10 seasons of nba experience) in a bigger/major market like LA with more endorsement income potential off the court.The supermax is not a big enough incentive to stop superstars from jumping from small market teams to bigger ones. We have seen two superstars in Kyrie Irving (force a trade from Cavs to Celtics) and Paul George (force a trade from Pacers to Thunder) despite likely being a season away from meeting the supermax criteria with their original teams.

We have only seen 4 guards who deserve the supermax sign it in Stephen Curry, James Harden, Russell Westbrook and Damian Lillard. We have seen one player in John Wall get overpaid by signing it. We saw one team in Charlotte let their franchise player in Kemba Walker walk for nothing by refusing to pay him the supermax despite his eligibility. We have seen two teams in the Chicago Bulls and Sacramento Kings trade away their franchise players in Jimmy Butler and Demarcus Cousins abruptly to avoid having to pay the supermax once their players became eligible. And we have seen one player in Russell Westbrook sign the supermax and request a trade from OKC to Houston exactly 1 year into his contract.


Gonna say anything about how this relates to Giannis or just rewrite Wikipedia for us all?
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Re: Jon Horst: Bucks Will Offer Giannis Antetokounmpo A Supermax Extension A Year From Now 

Post#13 » by Gianstoppable » Mon Sep 16, 2019 3:09 am

Sam195 wrote:
WRau1 wrote:
Sam195 wrote:
Giannis is pissed he was not offered a 5 year max extension off his rookie deal in 2016 by the Bucks when the salary cap blew up. Bucks signed Giannis to 4 years $100M which is less than the max extensions Portland gave CJ McCollum and Washington gave Otto Porter via rfa offer sheet in 2017 at 4 years $106M. Giannis literally broke out the season after signing his extension and had Bucks offered him the 5 year max $143M deal a year prior he would have meet the Rose Rule bonus eligibility and seen his contract bumped to a 5 year $173M max (the money Blake Griffin got that summer). Giannis lost money by extending with the Bucks over the 5 seasons in 2016 post his rookie deal regardless how high the salary cap will be for the 2021-2022 season when his new contract starts. Rumor is Bucks Front office at the time took the 5 year Designated Player extension completely off the table because they were saving it for Jabari Parker (who they believed was the true franchise player). Minnesota Timberwolves made the same mistake 5 years earlier giving Kevin Love the shorter 4 year max deal and saving their own Designated Player Max for Ricky Rubio who was projected to be a superstar pg before he tore his acl and had other knee injuries.


Giannis literally wanted the 4yr deal, what are you talking about?


He never wanted the 4 year deal it is horse sh** that John Horst is feeding people. Giannis wanted 5 years but Bucks thought Parker was the better player and only negotiated via the 4 year term. Giannis camp tried hard for 5 years but Bucks told Giannis he had to prove he was a 1B to Jabari's 1A and head to restricted free agency for a 5 year deal. The only reason Giannis inked the early extension was so he could send his signing bonus back to his family in Greece. The boy was living in a modest apartment taking uber and taxis to games and practices because he was sending all his money home. Bucks going to regret taking advantage of the Antetokounmpo family poverty. Disgusting.


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Re: Jon Horst: Bucks Will Offer Giannis Antetokounmpo A Supermax Extension A Year From Now 

Post#14 » by WRau1 » Mon Sep 16, 2019 3:32 pm

Sam195 wrote:
WRau1 wrote:
Sam195 wrote:
Giannis is pissed he was not offered a 5 year max extension off his rookie deal in 2016 by the Bucks when the salary cap blew up. Bucks signed Giannis to 4 years $100M which is less than the max extensions Portland gave CJ McCollum and Washington gave Otto Porter via rfa offer sheet in 2017 at 4 years $106M. Giannis literally broke out the season after signing his extension and had Bucks offered him the 5 year max $143M deal a year prior he would have meet the Rose Rule bonus eligibility and seen his contract bumped to a 5 year $173M max (the money Blake Griffin got that summer). Giannis lost money by extending with the Bucks over the 5 seasons in 2016 post his rookie deal regardless how high the salary cap will be for the 2021-2022 season when his new contract starts. Rumor is Bucks Front office at the time took the 5 year Designated Player extension completely off the table because they were saving it for Jabari Parker (who they believed was the true franchise player). Minnesota Timberwolves made the same mistake 5 years earlier giving Kevin Love the shorter 4 year max deal and saving their own Designated Player Max for Ricky Rubio who was projected to be a superstar pg before he tore his acl and had other knee injuries.


Giannis literally wanted the 4yr deal, what are you talking about?


He never wanted the 4 year deal it is horse sh** that John Horst is feeding people. Giannis wanted 5 years but Bucks thought Parker was the better player and only negotiated via the 4 year term. Giannis camp tried hard for 5 years but Bucks told Giannis he had to prove he was a 1B to Jabari's 1A and head to restricted free agency for a 5 year deal. The only reason Giannis inked the early extension was so he could send his signing bonus back to his family in Greece. The boy was living in a modest apartment taking uber and taxis to games and practices because he was sending all his money home. Bucks going to regret taking advantage of the Antetokounmpo family poverty. Disgusting.


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