Wolves Intensify Interest In Trading For D'Angelo Russell

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Re: Wolves Intensify Interest In Trading For D'Angelo Russell 

Post#21 » by LAKESHOW » Fri Jan 17, 2020 4:13 pm

Allow the Laker fans to educate and enlighten folks around here. These are what they call PLANTs/or more commonly known as fake news. Agents or teams will plant these stories by throwing them out there thru media outlets. Then the fans jump on them, thereby creating a buzz. In the ultimate hopes of creating interest for their clients/players.
Laker fans and franchise get about 100 of these per year. As a matter of fact, ill bet a story will be coming soon where the Lakers will all of the sudden will have interest in DRuss.
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Re: Wolves Intensify Interest In Trading For D'Angelo Russell 

Post#22 » by Donnyxc » Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:23 pm

LAKESHOW wrote:Allow the Laker fans to educate and enlighten folks around here. These are what they call PLANTs/or more commonly known as fake news. Agents or teams will plant these stories by throwing them out there thru media outlets. Then the fans jump on them, thereby creating a buzz. In the ultimate hopes of creating interest for their clients/players.
Laker fans and franchise get about 100 of these per year. As a matter of fact, ill bet a story will be coming soon where the Lakers will all of the sudden will have interest in DRuss.
You have now been enlightened.


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Re: Wolves Intensify Interest In Trading For D'Angelo Russell 

Post#23 » by KGdaBom » Fri Jan 17, 2020 7:21 pm

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Then why are the Wolves desperate to get Russell and why is the Wolves front office leaking that Covington is available and multiple teams are interested in him ? The Warriors hold all the leverage here.

I’m sorry to confuse you with actual basketball play.

Let’s go back to the hype.

The article this is quoted from actually says, “Russell is just one of many irons in the fire for the Wolves.” But I suppose you only read headlines.

As for leverage, who knows? MIN is not desperate to win now, and in fact let go of all of its expiring vets last summer to focus on learning a new analytics-based system with younger (worse) players. They have stuck with this system regardless of individual wins or losses. Meanwhile, GSW is holding a PG in a league filled with PG’s, and it will only get worse this summer when a new big flock of rookie PG’s enter the league. There aren’t many teams that are actual buyers. However, 3-and-elite D wings like Covington are a priority for every team.

In the end though, I don’t care about leverage, and I really hope the Wolves don’t take on Russell’s max deal. I have more hope they are looking for a guy like Aaron Holiday, on a much smaller deal. I am just overwhelmed by the people that ignore the numbers, production and contract, and feel Russell has tremendous value.


The Warriors are in no rush to trade Russell. The article says the Wolves are the ones making the calls about Russell. Secondly, what did Covington's RPM do for him when Russell dropped 50 on the Wolves earlier this year ? Analytics are a great tool to have but you can't rely solely on it.

Russell is a much better player than Covington. He's shown that he can lead a rebuilding team to the playoffs last year. He can be a franchise cornerstone when put with the right pieces while Covington is a glue guy.

Covington is a better fit on the Warriors than Russell but the talent gap and age difference is so significant between the two that the Wolves would have to throw in some picks for the Warriors to consider it.

You keep ignoring the part about Russell making more than twice as much as RoCo. I think all in all you can call them equal. Should be a straight up trade with salary filler.
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Re: Wolves Intensify Interest In Trading For D'Angelo Russell 

Post#24 » by KGdaBom » Fri Jan 17, 2020 7:23 pm

hyberx wrote:
shrink wrote:Covington is 50 spots higher in overall RPM than Russell.

No one wants to admit just how bad Russell is defensively.


Here is the prime example of someone just throw out numbers and don't know anything about it lol.

RPM has to do with who the player is playing with on the court. DLo this season has nobody to play with other than a bunch of rooks, 2way contract players, and a DGreen who was out several games. Reality is DLo is a legit max player, 23-year-old starting star PG who led a young Nets team to the playoff. RoCo, as great as a D player he is, will never be able to lead a team by himself like that.

Any suggestion of trading RoCo straight up with throw-in pieces for DLo is just silly forum talk.

Not silly at all. Hopefully that trade would prove win/win for both teams.
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Re: Wolves Intensify Interest In Trading For D'Angelo Russell 

Post#25 » by BballIntellect » Fri Jan 17, 2020 7:25 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
BballIntellect wrote:
shrink wrote:I’m sorry to confuse you with actual basketball play.

Let’s go back to the hype.

The article this is quoted from actually says, “Russell is just one of many irons in the fire for the Wolves.” But I suppose you only read headlines.

As for leverage, who knows? MIN is not desperate to win now, and in fact let go of all of its expiring vets last summer to focus on learning a new analytics-based system with younger (worse) players. They have stuck with this system regardless of individual wins or losses. Meanwhile, GSW is holding a PG in a league filled with PG’s, and it will only get worse this summer when a new big flock of rookie PG’s enter the league. There aren’t many teams that are actual buyers. However, 3-and-elite D wings like Covington are a priority for every team.

In the end though, I don’t care about leverage, and I really hope the Wolves don’t take on Russell’s max deal. I have more hope they are looking for a guy like Aaron Holiday, on a much smaller deal. I am just overwhelmed by the people that ignore the numbers, production and contract, and feel Russell has tremendous value.


The Warriors are in no rush to trade Russell. The article says the Wolves are the ones making the calls about Russell. Secondly, what did Covington's RPM do for him when Russell dropped 50 on the Wolves earlier this year ? Analytics are a great tool to have but you can't rely solely on it.

Russell is a much better player than Covington. He's shown that he can lead a rebuilding team to the playoffs last year. He can be a franchise cornerstone when put with the right pieces while Covington is a glue guy.

Covington is a better fit on the Warriors than Russell but the talent gap and age difference is so significant between the two that the Wolves would have to throw in some picks for the Warriors to consider it.

You keep ignoring the part about Russell making more than twice as much as RoCo. I think all in all you can call them equal. Should be a straight up trade with salary filler.


No way the Warriors trade Dlo straight up for Robert Covington.
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Re: Wolves Intensify Interest In Trading For D'Angelo Russell 

Post#26 » by mplsfonz23 » Fri Jan 17, 2020 7:25 pm

kenwood3333 wrote:Inclined to keep Russell? Ya right, more like waiting for the Wolves up their offer.


Yeah, this is what I was thinking.

Somehow they think we are going to give them tons of assets just to get DLo.
I am all for keeping Towns happy, but he has to realize that we need assets to win, and giving them all up for Russ aint the answer.

GS is not fooling anybody, they don't need Russ and only took him because they didn't want to lose KD for nothing. He's gone before the deadline or the offers this summer will be garbage.
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Re: Wolves Intensify Interest In Trading For D'Angelo Russell 

Post#27 » by BballIntellect » Fri Jan 17, 2020 7:27 pm

mplsfonz23 wrote:
kenwood3333 wrote:Inclined to keep Russell? Ya right, more like waiting for the Wolves up their offer.


Yeah, this is what I was thinking.

Somehow they think we are going to give them tons of assets just to get DLo.
I am all for keeping Towns happy, but he has to realize that we need assets to win, and giving them all up for Russ aint the answer.

GS is not fooling anybody, they don't need Russ and only took him because they didn't want to lose KD for nothing. He's gone before the deadline or the offers this summer will be garbage.


The offers this summer will be better. There will be more teams inquiring for Dlo. Right now there's only the Wolves.
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Re: Wolves Intensify Interest In Trading For D'Angelo Russell 

Post#28 » by mplsfonz23 » Fri Jan 17, 2020 7:36 pm

BballIntellect wrote:
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kenwood3333 wrote:Inclined to keep Russell? Ya right, more like waiting for the Wolves up their offer.


Yeah, this is what I was thinking.

Somehow they think we are going to give them tons of assets just to get DLo.
I am all for keeping Towns happy, but he has to realize that we need assets to win, and giving them all up for Russ aint the answer.

GS is not fooling anybody, they don't need Russ and only took him because they didn't want to lose KD for nothing. He's gone before the deadline or the offers this summer will be garbage.


The offers this summer will be better. There will be more teams inquiring for Dlo. Right now there's only the Wolves.


Well if that's the case, then we don't want. IMO. GS doesn't need him and think they are going to give us the shaft. Unlike the past, we now have a competent GM that won't make "win now" trades. Maybe it's true or not, but he said he values cap space and flexibility to make moves for the future. I am willing to give him time.
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Re: Wolves Intensify Interest In Trading For D'Angelo Russell 

Post#29 » by KGdaBom » Fri Jan 17, 2020 7:42 pm

BballIntellect wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
BballIntellect wrote:
The Warriors are in no rush to trade Russell. The article says the Wolves are the ones making the calls about Russell. Secondly, what did Covington's RPM do for him when Russell dropped 50 on the Wolves earlier this year ? Analytics are a great tool to have but you can't rely solely on it.

Russell is a much better player than Covington. He's shown that he can lead a rebuilding team to the playoffs last year. He can be a franchise cornerstone when put with the right pieces while Covington is a glue guy.

Covington is a better fit on the Warriors than Russell but the talent gap and age difference is so significant between the two that the Wolves would have to throw in some picks for the Warriors to consider it.

You keep ignoring the part about Russell making more than twice as much as RoCo. I think all in all you can call them equal. Should be a straight up trade with salary filler.


No way the Warriors trade Dlo straight up for Robert Covington.

Than no deal and no big deal. Russell is extemely overpaid. RoCo is extremely underpaid. IMO the Warriors would be fools not to make that deal.
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Re: Wolves Intensify Interest In Trading For D'Angelo Russell 

Post#30 » by KGdaBom » Fri Jan 17, 2020 7:45 pm

BballIntellect wrote:
mplsfonz23 wrote:
kenwood3333 wrote:Inclined to keep Russell? Ya right, more like waiting for the Wolves up their offer.


Yeah, this is what I was thinking.

Somehow they think we are going to give them tons of assets just to get DLo.
I am all for keeping Towns happy, but he has to realize that we need assets to win, and giving them all up for Russ aint the answer.

GS is not fooling anybody, they don't need Russ and only took him because they didn't want to lose KD for nothing. He's gone before the deadline or the offers this summer will be garbage.


The offers this summer will be better. There will be more teams inquiring for Dlo. Right now there's only the Wolves.

PGs are a dime a dozen in the NBA. A decent PG on a max contract is not going to draw much in the way of offers. If the Wolves actually offer RoCo the Warriors should jump all over that to move the extremely overpaid Russell.
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Re: Wolves Intensify Interest In Trading For D'Angelo Russell 

Post#31 » by KGdaBom » Fri Jan 17, 2020 7:49 pm

Simple question? Is D"lo at his contract a positive trade asset or a negative trade asset?

Simple Question? Is Covington on his contract a positive trade asset or a negative trade asset?
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Re: Wolves Intensify Interest In Trading For D'Angelo Russell 

Post#32 » by DarthDiggler69 » Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:05 pm

gonna trade Wiggins for D-Lo
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Re: Wolves Intensify Interest In Trading For D'Angelo Russell 

Post#33 » by KGdaBom » Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:57 pm

DarthDiggler69 wrote:gonna trade Wiggins for D-Lo

I would do that in a heartbeat.
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Re: Wolves Intensify Interest In Trading For D'Angelo Russell 

Post#34 » by Batsy » Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:11 am

12footrim wrote:
Batsy wrote:
gpoon wrote:Are we just going to ignore the fact that Dlo > Kyrie?

As a teammate? Yes. Player? No.


Swaggy P says no he's a rat.

Good point. Would he say the same about Kobe when he called him "soft"?

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