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Mark Cuban Criticizes Officiating Following Loss To Hawks

Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 6:23 am
by RealGM Wiretap

Mark Cuban went on Twitter to criticize the level of NBA officiating following the Dallas Mavericks' 111-107 loss to the Atlanta Hawks.


Cuban was upset by a play late in the game in which John Collins putback Dorian Finney-Smith's block shot. The initial goal-tending call on Finney-Smith was overturned after a review, though the refs counted Collins' shot due to an "inadvertent" whistle.


"So they call a goaltend. They literally blew the whistle that it was a goaltend. There was a putback after the whistle. After review they said no goaltend but count the basket? WTF is that? That's NBA officiating," tweeted Cuban.


Cuban then criticized the system for producing what he perceived as incompetent refs for 20 years.


"Refs have bad games. Crews have bad games. But this isn't a single game issue. This is the same s--- that has been going on for 20 years. Hire former refs who think they know how to hire, train and manage. Realize 2 years later they can't. Repeat." Cuban added.


Crew chief Rodney Mott explained the call after the game. 


"The ball was blocked and reviewed. The ball hit the rim, so it was deemed an inadvertent whistle because it was ruled a good block. By rule, it's an inadvertent whistle. It's Rule 2. Because he (Collins) was in his shooting motion when my whistle blew, it's deemed a continuation, so therefore, the basket counts," said Mott. 

Via ESPN


Re: Mark Cuban Criticizes Officiating Following Loss To Hawks

Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 8:12 am
by jozef
Maybe little mistake here and there but it is still far way better than FIBA rules and officiating.

Re: Mark Cuban Criticizes Officiating Following Loss To Hawks

Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 8:15 am
by Johnny Firpo
The ref clearly lied about it being an inadvertent whistle. Check the reply, he made a call, and his body language does not suggest it was an inadvertent whistle. And that stinks. They also said Collins already started the shooting motion when the whistle was blown. He didn't. So no matter how I look at this situation, they were not fair with us. Doesn't mean we would have won the game of course, but they took away our chance with that decision.

Re: Mark Cuban Criticizes Officiating Following Loss To Hawks

Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 12:28 pm
by Kampuchea
Johnny Firpo wrote:The ref clearly lied about it being an inadvertent whistle. Check the reply, he made a call, and his body language does not suggest it was an inadvertent whistle. And that stinks. They also said Collins already started the shooting motion when the whistle was blown. He didn't. So no matter how I look at this situation, they were not fair with us. Doesn't mean we would have won the game of course, but they took away our chance with that decision.


He said that it is deemed an inadvertent whistle by rule

Re: Mark Cuban Criticizes Officiating Following Loss To Hawks

Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 4:19 pm
by deeps6x
The coaches challenge was a step in the right direction. Refs blow calls all the time. People make mistakes. The challenge system helps correct those mistakes.

Unfortunately, the biggest problem with this system is that the coach only gets to use it once per game. At minimum, this should either be expanded to three challenges or if you win, you get to keep your challenge.

Also, where are the stats showing which refs blow the most calls?

Why do the Raptors have the best record for challenge wins this season? Are the refs screwing them so that they don't repeat?

Re: Mark Cuban Criticizes Officiating Following Loss To Hawks

Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 6:04 pm
by Furinkazan
jozef wrote:Maybe little mistake here and there but it is still far way better than FIBA rules and officiating.

are you trolling?
Fiba officiating is decent.

Re: Mark Cuban Criticizes Officiating Following Loss To Hawks

Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 10:10 pm
by Johnny Firpo
Kampuchea wrote:
Johnny Firpo wrote:The ref clearly lied about it being an inadvertent whistle. Check the reply, he made a call, and his body language does not suggest it was an inadvertent whistle. And that stinks. They also said Collins already started the shooting motion when the whistle was blown. He didn't. So no matter how I look at this situation, they were not fair with us. Doesn't mean we would have won the game of course, but they took away our chance with that decision.


He said that it is deemed an inadvertent whistle by rule


Doesn't matter, the whistle was clearly before Collins got the ball.

Re: Mark Cuban Criticizes Officiating Following Loss To Hawks

Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 10:18 pm
by Kampuchea
Johnny Firpo wrote:
Kampuchea wrote:
Johnny Firpo wrote:The ref clearly lied about it being an inadvertent whistle. Check the reply, he made a call, and his body language does not suggest it was an inadvertent whistle. And that stinks. They also said Collins already started the shooting motion when the whistle was blown. He didn't. So no matter how I look at this situation, they were not fair with us. Doesn't mean we would have won the game of course, but they took away our chance with that decision.


He said that it is deemed an inadvertent whistle by rule


Doesn't matter, the whistle was clearly before Collins got the ball.


Your statement that said he was lying about it being an inadvertent whistle is therefore incorrect. In good faith you can no longer make that claim.

Cheers

Re: Mark Cuban Criticizes Officiating Following Loss To Hawks

Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 11:04 pm
by Johnny Firpo
Kampuchea wrote:
Johnny Firpo wrote:
Kampuchea wrote:
He said that it is deemed an inadvertent whistle by rule


Doesn't matter, the whistle was clearly before Collins got the ball.


Your statement that said he was lying about it being an inadvertent whistle is therefore incorrect. In good faith you can no longer make that claim.

Cheers


Why are you still talking about that? I said even if that's true, the whistle clearly came before Collins' shot.

Re: Mark Cuban Criticizes Officiating Following Loss To Hawks

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 12:18 pm
by Hans1984
The ref is making excuses.

Re: Mark Cuban Criticizes Officiating Following Loss To Hawks

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 5:10 pm
by LightTheBeam
Read on Twitter


Id like to remind everyone this 2 handed push off by Bam at the end of the game was listed by refs as "Adebayo (MIA) releases from the contact with Joseph (SAC) near the basket."

Refs are awful. I've seen this crap a dozen times this year. Glad to see it happen to guys like Cuban who aren't afraid to say something.

Re: Mark Cuban Criticizes Officiating Following Loss To Hawks

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 9:54 am
by jozef
Furinkazan wrote:
jozef wrote:Maybe little mistake here and there but it is still far way better than FIBA rules and officiating.

are you trolling?
Fiba officiating is decent.

No trolling.
They call unsportsmanlike fouls alltime. Make wrong call and call another one on slight protest. Disrupting the game easily and often. Flopping on block/charge situation is bad joke quite often.
FIBA sucks.