Bucks Emphatic They Won't Trade Giannis Antetokounmpo If He Passes On Extension

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Bucks Emphatic They Won't Trade Giannis Antetokounmpo If He Passes On Extension 

Post#1 » by RealGM Wiretap » Mon Oct 19, 2020 12:21 pm

If Giannis Antetokounmpo passes on an extension with the Milwaukee Bucks this offseason, Tim Bontemps of ESPN reports that "multiple sources have emphatically said Milwaukee will not look to trade [him]."


The Bucks will instead try to improve their roster and bolster their case on why Antetokounmpo should sign long-term with the franchise.


The Bucks could be major players in the trade market if they are willing to increase payroll.


A few teams such as the Toronto Raptors, Dallas Mavericks and Miami Heat could be more aggressive in 2020 if Antetokounmpo does sign an extension now.

Via Tim Bontemps/ESPN

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Re: Bucks Emphatic They Won't Trade Giannis Antetokounmpo If He Passes On Extension 

Post#2 » by BigHustle » Mon Oct 19, 2020 1:04 pm

Translation: He’s available.
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Post#3 » by objectivefan » Mon Oct 19, 2020 1:42 pm

BigHustle wrote:Translation: He’s available.


right, but what would the compensation package be? 10 first-round picks? he is a tier 1 franchise-changing player
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Re: Bucks Emphatic They Won't Trade Giannis Antetokounmpo If He Passes On Extension 

Post#4 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Oct 19, 2020 2:12 pm

they would be really stupid not to trade him if he passes on the extension.
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Re: Bucks Emphatic They Won't Trade Giannis Antetokounmpo If He Passes On Extension 

Post#5 » by teco1497 » Mon Oct 19, 2020 2:36 pm

objectivefan wrote:
BigHustle wrote:Translation: He’s available.


right, but what would the compensation package be? 10 first-round picks? he is a tier 1 franchise-changing player

herro+robinson+nunn+adebayo+olynyk+2 first rounds will be enough
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Re: Bucks Emphatic They Won't Trade Giannis Antetokounmpo If He Passes On Extension 

Post#6 » by Cassius » Mon Oct 19, 2020 2:50 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:they would be really stupid not to trade him if he passes on the extension.


They have to trade him if he passes on the extension. You can't let a guy like that walk.
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Re: Bucks Emphatic They Won't Trade Giannis Antetokounmpo If He Passes On Extension 

Post#7 » by Elnegron » Mon Oct 19, 2020 3:02 pm

teco1497 wrote:
objectivefan wrote:
BigHustle wrote:Translation: He’s available.


right, but what would the compensation package be? 10 first-round picks? he is a tier 1 franchise-changing player

herro+robinson+nunn+adebayo+olynyk+2 first rounds will be enough
lmao u trolling. Bucks will never get fair value for giannis, that's how trade works when the star player has decided to leave. If giannis want miami or dallas ex there little bucks can do. You take what they offer and move on. Heat will never give up bam for giannis. It would be 2 starters not name bam or jimmy so that makes it herro and Robinson plus a pick. You can't get better value than that from someone that will be gone regardless
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Post#8 » by jason bourne » Mon Oct 19, 2020 3:18 pm

teco1497 wrote:
objectivefan wrote:
BigHustle wrote:Translation: He’s available.


right, but what would the compensation package be? 10 first-round picks? he is a tier 1 franchise-changing player

herro+robinson+nunn+adebayo+olynyk+2 first rounds will be enough


No need to trade with Bucks and their cheapskate aowners. Just let Giannis walk
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Re: Bucks Emphatic They Won't Trade Giannis Antetokounmpo If He Passes On Extension 

Post#9 » by Kingsway_fan » Mon Oct 19, 2020 3:58 pm

Teams will just wait until he is an unrestricted fa... then sign him without compensation...
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Re: Bucks Emphatic They Won't Trade Giannis Antetokounmpo If He Passes On Extension 

Post#10 » by CraftylikeaFox » Mon Oct 19, 2020 5:29 pm

Elnegron wrote:
teco1497 wrote:
objectivefan wrote:
right, but what would the compensation package be? 10 first-round picks? he is a tier 1 franchise-changing player

herro+robinson+nunn+adebayo+olynyk+2 first rounds will be enough
lmao u trolling. Bucks will never get fair value for giannis, that's how trade works when the star player has decided to leave. If giannis want miami or dallas ex there little bucks can do. You take what they offer and move on. Heat will never give up bam for giannis. It would be 2 starters not name bam or jimmy so that makes it herro and Robinson plus a pick. You can't get better value than that from someone that will be gone regardless


You're even more wrong with your weak trade. Pelicans got Lonzo, Ingram, Hart, three firsts including #4 for AD and AD demanded a trade there. Giannis hasn't demanded a trade anywhere and his value is higher than AD's. That first trade isn't that far off, but I agree Heat wouldn't add Bam to that most likely, but then their trade probably doesn't beat some of the other offers they will get. If Bucks do decide to make him available then every team will inquire about him and Bucks will probably get offers that look like: DeAndre Hunter/John Collins/Cam Reddish/three firsts. Brandon Ingram/Lonzo Ball/Reddick. Every person and pick on the Knicks besides RJ Barrett. Jaren Jackson Jr/Dillon Brookes/three firsts. Spencer Dinwiddie/Lavert/Jarrett Allen. A package around Ben Simmons. That doesn't even include crazier things like the Warriors offering Klay Thompson. Bucks will receive a godfather offer from someone.
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Re: Bucks Emphatic They Won't Trade Giannis Antetokounmpo If He Passes On Extension 

Post#11 » by delsol650 » Mon Oct 19, 2020 5:59 pm

Any team the refuses to trade a superstar that is NOT going to resign with them would be idiotic and does not do any justice/help for their team and fans. You always try to get some sort of compensation or return by initiating a trade scenario working with that Players agent.

Letting your star player walk away without a chance to gain some players/picks in return would be a total disservice to the franchise and would be a total bone head move. :crazy: Even if it's pennies to the dollar in return, it's better than not getting anything back. Sure you don't get a dollar for dollar value with a star that's either disgruntled or not resigning.

But in the AD example, Lonzo, Ingram, Hart, three firsts were not going to net the Lakers a championship had they stayed with the lakers, and the 3- 1st are not guaranteed, star players nor main contributors.
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Re: Bucks Emphatic They Won't Trade Giannis Antetokounmpo If He Passes On Extension 

Post#12 » by Jabroni Lames » Mon Oct 19, 2020 6:38 pm

Bucks are in a very good position to sign Giannis, though. Salary cap looks like it could go steadily down over the next few years, so he would be potentially be giving up a lot if he doesn't take the super-max now. If I'm Giannis' agent, I say get the bag now and whine for a trade later. It's a win-win: Giannis gets supermax money & the Bucks will be able to get good value back with Giannis under contract for say, 3-4 years.
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Re: Bucks Emphatic They Won't Trade Giannis Antetokounmpo If He Passes On Extension 

Post#13 » by Dennis 37 » Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:12 pm

Chris Bosh says hello.

If he doesnt sign an extension now, why would he re-sign in the summer?

Why is Milwaukee going to look better to him in the summer, than it does now?
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Re: Bucks Emphatic They Won't Trade Giannis Antetokounmpo If He Passes On Extension 

Post#14 » by wco81 » Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:27 pm

He's only 25 so he could sign extension, if things don't work out, walk later or demand a trade while he's under the super max contract.

But he's been in Milwaukee for 7 years. If he signs an extension with them, they will be hamstrung to add significant talent to the roster. So they would really have to add major pieces this offseason and then sign him and go way over the cap.

If he signs before they add some big talent, Bucks won't be able to do so, because they will be over the cap. If anything, the depth of the team will decline because his and Middleton's deals would take up so much of the cap.

Lebron left Cleveland after 7 years and KD left OKC after 9 years with the franchise (1 in Seattle, 8 in OKC).

Whatever loyalty he may feel, two of the greatest players now and in history had to leave eventually in order to win rings. So if he wants to win titles, he likely can't do it staying in Milwaukee.

Cleveland and OKC even made it to the Finals and the superstars felt they had to leave. And they were right, if their goal was to win titles.
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Re: Bucks Emphatic They Won't Trade Giannis Antetokounmpo If He Passes On Extension 

Post#15 » by ecuhus1981 » Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:42 pm

Neither Giannis nor the Bucks want a trade.

For the Bucks, one year of a disgruntled MVP has more of an impact on winning, ticket sales, advertisements and so much else than whatever he would return. Your never going to get actual fair value, because Antetokounmpo is adamant on pursuing free agency next offseason.

For Giannis, even if Milwaukee sold him to a "preferred" destination, he wouldn't want to play there because they would have to gut their core and sell 5 1sts to MIL, to justify the trade.

They are stuck with each other for one last dance. Who knows, they have a decent shot of winning it all, and then they can have a completely different conversation with their superstar.
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Re: Bucks Emphatic They Won't Trade Giannis Antetokounmpo If He Passes On Extension 

Post#16 » by iserp » Mon Oct 19, 2020 8:46 pm

They just were the best regular season team this year, and next year will have chances at a title with Giannis. I would say that a chance at a title is better than any package they could get for him.
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Re: Bucks Emphatic They Won't Trade Giannis Antetokounmpo If He Passes On Extension 

Post#17 » by captain green » Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:49 pm

Totally a bucks move losing him for nothing smart lol. Plus if I was black I wouldn't want nothing to do with that city. Racist killer cops uh easy pass.
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Post#18 » by Metallikid » Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:57 pm

Perfect. All is going according to plan.

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Post#19 » by Elnegron » Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:34 pm

iserp wrote:They just were the best regular season team this year, and next year will have chances at a title with Giannis. I would say that a chance at a title is better than any package they could get for him.
being delusional is a trait of buck fans I guess. Bucks aren't going to win a ring, let alone going to the finals. Bucks half court offense is arguably the worst among the top 6 teams in the east
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Re: Bucks Emphatic They Won't Trade Giannis Antetokounmpo If He Passes On Extension 

Post#20 » by Cassius » Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:50 pm

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You're even more wrong with your weak trade. Pelicans got Lonzo, Ingram, Hart, three firsts including #4 for AD and AD demanded a trade there. Giannis hasn't demanded a trade anywhere and his value is higher than AD's. That first trade isn't that far off, but I agree Heat wouldn't add Bam to that most likely, but then their trade probably doesn't beat some of the other offers they will get. If Bucks do decide to make him available then every team will inquire about him and Bucks will probably get offers that look like: DeAndre Hunter/John Collins/Cam Reddish/three firsts. Brandon Ingram/Lonzo Ball/Reddick. Every person and pick on the Knicks besides RJ Barrett. Jaren Jackson Jr/Dillon Brookes/three firsts. Spencer Dinwiddie/Lavert/Jarrett Allen. A package around Ben Simmons. That doesn't even include crazier things like the Warriors offering Klay Thompson. Bucks will receive a godfather offer from someone.


I would hate to see it happen, and they'd need some kind of assurance on an extension, but Boston could present:

Smart
Brown
Hayward
Robert Williams
1st

And the key here is that the salaries of the top 3 would allow Milwaukee to dump at least one bad contract in case they want to keep Hayward around.

Bledsoe, Brown, Middleton, Hayward and Lopez, with Smart and Dante off the bench is a sneaky good roster. Nobody commands doubles but you can't help off of anyone, either.
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