Bucks, Pacers Have Held Victor Oladipo Trade Talks

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Bucks, Pacers Have Held Victor Oladipo Trade Talks 

Post#1 » by RealGM Wiretap » Thu Oct 29, 2020 3:12 am

The Indiana Pacers have discussed a potential Victor Oladipo trade with the Milwaukee Bucks, sources tell Kevin O'Connor of The Ringer.


At this point, a deal between the Pacers and Bucks seems unlikely.


Oladipo has one season remaining on his current contract with the Pacers.


Milwaukee is expected to be aggressive this offseason in improving its roster around Giannis Antetokounmpo. 

Via Kevin O'Connor/The Ringer

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Post#2 » by kalel123 » Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:39 pm

Should've just kept Brogdon instead of cheaping out.

At minimum, he's a tradable asset you can use to improve the team.
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Post#3 » by Matches Malone » Thu Oct 29, 2020 4:06 pm

kalel123 wrote:Should've just kept Brogdon instead of cheaping out.

At minimum, he's a tradable asset you can use to improve the team.


Seems easy to say now, but Brogdan has had a lengthy injury history in most of the seasons he's been in the league. If he keeps getting hurt, that contract becomes a desk weight. There is also the repeater tax they had to take into consideration and every dollar they spent was basically x2 if they went that route, making other players' salaries ballooned.

At the end of the day, Brogdon, while good, wasn't the missing piece for the Bucks. They had way too many issues when the bubble restart began and Giannis could have played better even though he was carrying the team pretty much.
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Post#4 » by MitchB3 » Thu Oct 29, 2020 5:06 pm

Matches Malone wrote:
kalel123 wrote:Should've just kept Brogdon instead of cheaping out.

At minimum, he's a tradable asset you can use to improve the team.


Seems easy to say now, but Brogdan has had a lengthy injury history in most of the seasons he's been in the league. If he keeps getting hurt, that contract becomes a desk weight. There is also the repeater tax they had to take into consideration and every dollar they spent was basically x2 if they went that route, making other players' salaries ballooned.

At the end of the day, Brogdon, while good, wasn't the missing piece for the Bucks. They had way too many issues when the bubble restart began and Giannis could have played better even though he was carrying the team pretty much.



Brogdon was the better player that the Bucks needed. They overpaid for Brook Lopez, gave Khris who at best is the 3rd best player on a true contender, and Bledsoe, well at this point there's not much value for him.
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Post#5 » by MitchB3 » Thu Oct 29, 2020 5:07 pm

kalel123 wrote:Should've just kept Brogdon instead of cheaping out.

At minimum, he's a tradable asset you can use to improve the team.



I couldn't agree more, he's actually a better offensive talent than Bledsoe and knows how to run an offense.
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Post#6 » by Matches Malone » Thu Oct 29, 2020 5:23 pm

MitchB3 wrote:
Matches Malone wrote:
kalel123 wrote:Should've just kept Brogdon instead of cheaping out.

At minimum, he's a tradable asset you can use to improve the team.


Seems easy to say now, but Brogdan has had a lengthy injury history in most of the seasons he's been in the league. If he keeps getting hurt, that contract becomes a desk weight. There is also the repeater tax they had to take into consideration and every dollar they spent was basically x2 if they went that route, making other players' salaries ballooned.

At the end of the day, Brogdon, while good, wasn't the missing piece for the Bucks. They had way too many issues when the bubble restart began and Giannis could have played better even though he was carrying the team pretty much.



Brogdon was the better player that the Bucks needed. They overpaid for Brook Lopez, gave Khris who at best is the 3rd best player on a true contender, and Bledsoe, well at this point there's not much value for him.


Middleton had one of his best seasons as a player. I get he’s not a flashy name but he’s no scrub. Brook and Khris both got market value and helped lead the bucks to back to back #1 seeds. And while Bledsoe hasn’t been good offensively, he’s made back to back defensive all teams. He’s got value, he just doesn’t fit on the Bucks.
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Post#7 » by kalel123 » Thu Oct 29, 2020 5:26 pm

Matches Malone wrote:
MitchB3 wrote:
Matches Malone wrote:
Seems easy to say now, but Brogdan has had a lengthy injury history in most of the seasons he's been in the league. If he keeps getting hurt, that contract becomes a desk weight. There is also the repeater tax they had to take into consideration and every dollar they spent was basically x2 if they went that route, making other players' salaries ballooned.

At the end of the day, Brogdon, while good, wasn't the missing piece for the Bucks. They had way too many issues when the bubble restart began and Giannis could have played better even though he was carrying the team pretty much.



Brogdon was the better player that the Bucks needed. They overpaid for Brook Lopez, gave Khris who at best is the 3rd best player on a true contender, and Bledsoe, well at this point there's not much value for him.


Middleton had one of his best seasons as a player. I get he’s not a flashy name but he’s no scrub. Brook and Khris both got market value and helped lead the bucks to back to back #1 seeds. And while Bledsoe hasn’t been good offensively, he’s made back to back defensive all teams. He’s got value, he just doesn’t fit on the Bucks.


I think you'd have to figure at this point that regular season success don't mean much if they don't translate in the playoffs.
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Post#8 » by Matches Malone » Thu Oct 29, 2020 5:56 pm

kalel123 wrote:
Matches Malone wrote:
MitchB3 wrote:

Brogdon was the better player that the Bucks needed. They overpaid for Brook Lopez, gave Khris who at best is the 3rd best player on a true contender, and Bledsoe, well at this point there's not much value for him.


Middleton had one of his best seasons as a player. I get he’s not a flashy name but he’s no scrub. Brook and Khris both got market value and helped lead the bucks to back to back #1 seeds. And while Bledsoe hasn’t been good offensively, he’s made back to back defensive all teams. He’s got value, he just doesn’t fit on the Bucks.


I think you'd have to figure at this point that regular season success don't mean much if they don't translate in the playoffs.


Absolutely, but when you've been a bottom cellar team for decades, winning consistently in the regular season is the first step. Now they can either fold or figure out how to get to the next level like the Raptors did.

It still doesn't negate the fact that the players on the Bucks have value and other teams will see that and think they can work with that talent in a way the Bucks couldn't.
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Re: Bucks, Pacers Have Held Victor Oladipo Trade Talks 

Post#9 » by kalel123 » Fri Oct 30, 2020 2:24 am

Matches Malone wrote:
kalel123 wrote:Should've just kept Brogdon instead of cheaping out.

At minimum, he's a tradable asset you can use to improve the team.


Seems easy to say now, but Brogdan has had a lengthy injury history in most of the seasons he's been in the league. If he keeps getting hurt, that contract becomes a desk weight. There is also the repeater tax they had to take into consideration and every dollar they spent was basically x2 if they went that route, making other players' salaries ballooned.

At the end of the day, Brogdon, while good, wasn't the missing piece for the Bucks. They had way too many issues when the bubble restart began and Giannis could have played better even though he was carrying the team pretty much.


It's not necessarily about Brogdon being the missing piece. Bucks are now scrambling to improve the core but are finding that hard to do. Had you had Brogdon, he would've been a useful piece in achieving that goal. He would've held more value in trades market than anybody Bucks currently have and that's one less useful player or draft pick you have to give away.

The luxury tax are par for the course if you want to be true contender. If you gimp on the money wishing to avoid tax, you have a situation like the Bucks where your options are limited even when you want to actually spend in an effort to keep Giannis. When you are as close as Bucks were last year, you can't shy away from spending money and expect results at the same time.

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