Brandon Ingram, Pelicans Agree To Five-Year, $158M Contract

[RealGM Wiretap]

Brandon Ingram has agreed to a five-year, $158 million contract with the New Orleans Pelicans.

Via Adrian Wojnarowski/ESPN

[Apse4]

Cmon. Why ? Now GH to Hornets doesnt look so bad.

[skulky]

Cmon. Why ? Now GH to Hornets doesnt look so bad.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/i/ingrabr01.html
https://youtu.be/sc7f3KwbL4s

Did you watch Ingram last year?
22 and putting up almost 24 ppg with great shooting splits and efficiency.

[Theo Ratliff]

Cmon. Why ? Now GH to Hornets doesnt look so bad.

Because he was the biggest piece of the Anthony Davis trade. You can't trade your franchise player and then just let Ingram leave.

[AlbanyKnicksFan]

This is a no-brainer move by the Pelicans. Ingram is a foundational piece for an up and coming squad.

[HotelVitale]

Cmon. Why ? Now GH to Hornets doesnt look so bad.

Because he was the biggest piece of the Anthony Davis trade. You can't trade your franchise player and then just let Ingram leave.

It's not because of that--if they got someone who wasn't that good they wouldn't retain him at all costs just to save face. It's because he was very good last year, fits pretty well with what they have and is a big part of their plans, and as importantly is a healthy 23 year-old. Also Hayward is a broken 30 year old so no comparison there.

[luss54321]

How much Brandon Ingram can move the needle in terms of winning basketball games is yet to be seen. He's a very effective scorer but doesn't bring much else to the table (rebounding, playmaking, defense). He needs to expand his game if he wants to be in the superstar category.

[D21]

Cmon. Why ? Now GH to Hornets doesnt look so bad.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/i/ingrabr01.html
https://youtu.be/sc7f3KwbL4s

Did you watch Ingram last year?
22 and putting up almost 24 ppg with great shooting splits and efficiency.

I watched several games, and each time, he was fun to watch him on offense, he's a great offensive game, but even if it can still improve, the team defense was not so high with him. I saw several time NOP taking a lead or dominating the opponent more when he was on the bench than with him.
And a lot of numbers confirm it :
Basketball-reference shows an Off rating of 112, and a Def rating of 112
On/Off court Net from 82games : Zion, Reddick and some others have better numbers than Ingram who is just above being neutral to the team.
Real Plus Minus from ESPN : has a -1.2 defensive RPM, and on overall, he's the 20th SF of the league

If he was in his prime, it would have been a red flag, but he has time to improve, and will need to improve on every other part of game than offensive game to show he deserve to be paid more than 30M per year.

It pretty much the same case for Fox with SAC

[Rek]

Gotta love self-professed hoops experts that think their personal eye tests are the standard that matters.

Here's the reality:

According to NBA.com writer John Schuhmann, the five-man lineup of point guard Lonzo Ball, shooting guard Jrue Holiday, small forward Brandon Ingram, power forward Zion Williamson and center Derrick Favors not only excelled in its 230 on-court minutes, but thoroughly dominated. Of the league’s 34 lineups that have logged 200-plus minutes this season, New Orleans’ group had the No. 1 net rating, outscoring opponents by 26.3 points per 100 possessions. Not bad for a combination that entered Williamson’s Jan. 22 debut vs. San Antonio having only played together briefly in training camp and preseason games.

The gap between New Orleans’ starters and the league’s second-best lineup is massive, with Phoenix’s grouping of Ricky Rubio, Devin Booker, Mikal Bridges, Kelly Oubre and DeAndre Ayton possessing a net rating of plus-20.2 in 226 minutes. That means statistically the New Orleans fivesome was at least 23 percent better than any other NBA lineup that played a minimum of 200 minutes. Incidentally, the No. 3-ranked lineup should probably come as no surprise – league-best Milwaukee (53-12) trotted out a starting lineup for a total of 408 minutes (Eric Bledsoe, Wesley Matthews, Khris Middleton, Giannis Antetokounmpo, Brook Lopez) that outscored opponents by 19.1 points per 100 possessions.

https://www.nba.com/pelicans/news/did-you-know-new-orleans-starting-five-has-been-dominant-2019-20

[danfantastk32]

Gotta love self-professed hoops experts that think their personal eye tests are the standard that matters.

Here's the reality:

According to NBA.com writer John Schuhmann, the five-man lineup of point guard Lonzo Ball, shooting guard Jrue Holiday, small forward Brandon Ingram, power forward Zion Williamson and center Derrick Favors not only excelled in its 230 on-court minutes, but thoroughly dominated. Of the league’s 34 lineups that have logged 200-plus minutes this season, New Orleans’ group had the No. 1 net rating, outscoring opponents by 26.3 points per 100 possessions. Not bad for a combination that entered Williamson’s Jan. 22 debut vs. San Antonio having only played together briefly in training camp and preseason games.

So why they stink then? The stat that REALLY matters:

2020 Southwest Standings Standings
TEAM W L PCT GB STRK
Houston 44 28 .611 - L3
Dallas 43 32 .573 2.5 L2
Memphis 34 39 .466 10.5 W1
San Antonio 32 39 .451 11.5 L1
New Orleans 30 42 .417 14 L3

"Not only excelled in its 230 on-court minutes, but thoroughly dominated" <----- Ok

Brandon is a nice offensive piece, and I'm glad he's starting to put it together. But the pelicans just gave Lou Williams a $30-mil per year deal. Their $$$, so do whatever you want. But Ingram has a hell of alot more to prove, before he should be making anything near that. I think NO is tired of guys walking.

[Apse4]

Cmon. Why ? Now GH to Hornets doesnt look so bad.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/i/ingrabr01.html
https://youtu.be/sc7f3KwbL4s

Did you watch Ingram last year?
22 and putting up almost 24 ppg with great shooting splits and efficiency.

Who cares if he does this for bottom 3 conference team?