Tom Thibodeau Named NBA Coach Of The Year

[RealGM Wiretap]

Tom Thibodeau has been named the 20-21 NBA Coach of the Year.

Monty Williams came in second while Quin Snyder finished third.

Thibodeau was previously Coach of the Year in 2011.

Via RealGM Staff Report

[nedleeds]

In b4 something something racism.

... and yes Williams should have won and this award should include the playoffs where Thibs was exposed as a fraud again.

[2020]

In b4 something something racism.

... and yes Williams should have won and this award should include the playoffs where Thibs was exposed as a fraud again.

How can you be in before it when you're the one who first mentioneded it?

Back to the thread, Tom Thibodeau definitely deserved it.

[stlboy]

Willams should have won it. The Suns finished 2nd in the West, and knocked off the defending champions.

[watpho71]

1. Monty Williams, 2. Tom Thibodeau, 3. Quin Snyder

This should have been the easiest award to determine for the 100 global panelists.

[donemilio21]

Both Thibbs and Monty deserved it!

[Spot31]

They said his old ways and defense wouldn't work in today's modern game and he proved them wrong.

[KingsTime]

No Quin Snyder? Happy for Thibs though

[Rashidi]

They said his old ways and defense wouldn't work in today's modern game and he proved them wrong.

Thibs ways are perfect if you crave regular season wins and capping out at self-inflicted 2nd round exits.

After the ineptitude the Knicks have endured over the last 10 years, he's what the doctor ordered. His methods shouldn't be confused with a long-term panacea. This award generates him job security he shouldn't necessarily get.

His offenses collapse come playoff time because he has a strong preference for defensive role players who can't do anything. This isn't the first time we've seen his stars have to climb mountains because they're playing 3v5. They're too easy to double. You can get away with these rosters & philosophies when you have stars at the top of their game, as the Lakers did w/ LeBron & Davis last year, or as the Celtics did w/ KG/Pierce/Allen. Julius Randle and Derrick Rose ain't either of those.

This dude was starting Taj Gibson in playoff games (not a threat to roll OR shoot), and effectively asking Randle to be playoff Dirk with an array of mid-range pull-ups & stepback threes. That's not something that's gonna change down the line.

He started Elfrid Payton in every single game despite a heinous fit w/ Randle (imagine Celtics Rondo w/ a point forward), and then all of a sudden once we get to the playoffs he starts Rose and Payton isn't even in the rotation. Meanwhile Austin Rivers couldn't get off the bench for the Knicks and is starting for Denver in the 2nd round.

The knock on him coming into the season was he plays his favorites too much and nothing he did dispelled that notion. He didn't "prove anyone wrong" so much as overachieve and win about 10 more games than expected. He did a fantastic job getting the performance he did out of Randle (which perhaps shouldn't have even been unexpected given the All-NBA 1st team season he got out of Joakim Noah a few years ago), but I'd attribute the playoff berth to getting some draft luck w/ Quickley and turning Dennis Smith into Derrick Rose.

There has never been a COY whose moves were so polarizing and scrutinizable in this fashion. Monty Williams had the best coaching job this year, he hit the right buttons all year, you can't really question his moves in the same degree you can Thibs. He just didn't have the bigger story/narrative which is typically what the media looks for in their voting.

[Zenzibar]

They said his old ways and defense wouldn't work in today's modern game and he proved them wrong.

Thibs ways are perfect if you crave regular season wins and capping out at self-inflicted 2nd round exits.

After the ineptitude the Knicks have endured over the last 10 years, he's what the doctor ordered. His methods shouldn't be confused with a long-term panacea. This award generates him job security he shouldn't necessarily get.

His offenses collapse come playoff time because he has a strong preference for defensive role players who can't do anything. This isn't the first time we've seen his stars have to climb mountains because they're playing 3v5. They're too easy to double. You can get away with these rosters & philosophies when you have stars at the top of their game, as the Lakers did w/ LeBron & Davis last year, or as the Celtics did w/ KG/Pierce/Allen. Julius Randle and Derrick Rose ain't either of those.

This dude was starting Taj Gibson in playoff games (not a threat to roll OR shoot), and effectively asking Randle to be playoff Dirk with an array of mid-range pull-ups & stepback threes. That's not something that's gonna change down the line.

He started Elfrid Payton in every single game despite a heinous fit w/ Randle (imagine Celtics Rondo w/ a point forward), and then all of a sudden once we get to the playoffs he starts Rose and Payton isn't even in the rotation. Meanwhile Austin Rivers couldn't get off the bench for the Knicks and is starting for Denver in the 2nd round.

The knock on him coming into the season was he plays his favorites too much and nothing he did dispelled that notion. He didn't "prove anyone wrong" so much as overachieve and win about 10 more games than expected. He did a fantastic job getting the performance he did out of Randle (which perhaps shouldn't have even been unexpected given the All-NBA 1st team season he got out of Joakim Noah a few years ago), but I'd attribute the playoff berth to getting some draft luck w/ Quickley and turning Dennis Smith into Derrick Rose.

There has never been a COY whose moves were so polarizing and scrutinizable in this fashion. Monty Williams had the best coaching job this year, he hit the right buttons all year, you can't really question his moves in the same degree you can Thibs. He just didn't have the bigger story/narrative which is typically what the media looks for in their voting.

Your argument is full of, umm holes and bringing up Thibs past to justify your opinion

Facts: Taj started because both Mitchell Robinson was out and Nerlens Noel was injured. Unlike the Suns the Knicks had no point guard, a 2nd year players in RJ Barrett, no center and no real 3pt shooters outside of rookie Immanual Quickley.

Not taking anything away from Monty but Thibs did more with less. Stop the hate my dude, they both had great years.

[Zenzibar]

In b4 something something racism.

... and yes Williams should have won and this award should include the playoffs where Thibs was exposed as a fraud again.

Your posts are trash even on the GB too..

[jstudabaka]

Yes, so it's 1 and 1A situation -- but I don't see how anyone can argue Thibs didn't deserve it. The Knicks' roster was hot garbage. The Suns added Chris Paul, who wins everywhere he goes. You take Monty off the Suns, pretty sure they're still one of the top teams in the West. Thibs off the Knicks -- they're drafting top 5 in all likelihood.

[elmdawgg69]

Monty didn’t win because he deserved to win last year’s summer league COY in the Orlando bubble. The Suns went undefeated. They were expected to be a top five team this season.

[Hans1984]

He's coach of the year of the regular season.

[Biff]

[gfycat][/gfycat]

Monty didn’t win because he deserved to win last year’s summer league COY in the Orlando bubble. The Suns went undefeated. They were expected to be a top five team this season.

Eh, most people had us pegged as a team that would be fighting for a 6-8 seed. We got raked through the coals for trading for an old PG making $40m a year. This narrative that everyone knew we'd be one of the best teams in the league is 100% false. Very few people expected us to be this good.

[Rashidi]

Facts: Taj started because both Mitchell Robinson was out and Nerlens Noel was injured.

Fact: Nerlens was not injured. He played all five playoff games.
They were +7 in the two games Noel started, and -42 in the three games that Gibson started.

Unlike the Suns the Knicks had no point guard

Last I checked, Derrick Rose is a point guard.

a 2nd year players in RJ Barrett

The Suns have numerous young players on their roster. Devin Booker, DeAndre Ayton, Mikal Bridges, and Cameron Johnson are all under the age of 25. Barrett, Quickley, and Toppin were the only such players in the Knicks rotation. This was a predominantly veteran team.

no center and no real 3pt shooters outside of rookie Immanual Quickley.

Reggie Bullock: 163-398 (41%)
Julius Randle: 160-389 (41%)
R.J. Barrett: 124-309 (40%)
Immanuel Quickley: 118-303 (39%)
Alec Burks: 102-246 (42%)

Please do your research before commenting.

[nedleeds]

In b4 something something racism.

... and yes Williams should have won and this award should include the playoffs where Thibs was exposed as a fraud again.

Your posts are trash even on the GB too..

Tell me more about trash takes.

Nevertheless, Payton is not a finished product yet and unless the team moves him in a couple of weeks, I anticipate him trending upward with this coaching staff.

Thibs just decided to play his 2 decent players 38 (Randle, led the league) and RJ 36 minutes. The Knicks lost almost no man games to injury except Mitch. We lost no rotation players to Covid while the rest of the league had 2-3 players out. The Knicks record against the top 3 teams in the East was awful. The Knicks banked 10-12 fake wins playing against the Milwaukee Thannasises and Bostons G-League Red Claws. He's not a good offensive coach. He just makes people play a ton of minutes and brings defensive accountability and effort. Overall he's a regular season wonder, who gets rolled in the playoffs because his offense is predictable and can't adjust. Dwayne Casey, Steve Clifford, etc. all the same guy.

Monte Williams got a team that didn't make the playoffs 1 game away from the #1 seed in the west and into the second round.

I'm also arguing that all these awards should

a) Be announced before the playoffs

b) Count the playoffs and be announced at the end of the year

Announcing CotY after that coach just got totally out coached and humiliated is silly.

[Spot31]

In b4 something something racism.

... and yes Williams should have won and this award should include the playoffs where Thibs was exposed as a fraud again.

Your posts are trash even on the GB too..

Tell me more about trash takes.

Nevertheless, Payton is not a finished product yet and unless the team moves him in a couple of weeks, I anticipate him trending upward with this coaching staff.

Thibs just decided to play his 2 decent players 38 (Randle, led the league) and RJ 36 minutes. The Knicks lost almost no man games to injury except Mitch. We lost no rotation players to Covid while the rest of the league had 2-3 players out. The Knicks record against the top 3 teams in the East was awful. The Knicks banked 10-12 fake wins playing against the Milwaukee Thannasises and Bostons G-League Red Claws. He's not a good offensive coach. He just makes people play a ton of minutes and brings defensive accountability and effort. Overall he's a regular season wonder, who gets rolled in the playoffs because his offense is predictable and can't adjust. Dwayne Casey, Steve Clifford, etc. all the same guy.

Monte Williams got a team that didn't make the playoffs 1 game away from the #1 seed in the west and into the second round.

I'm also arguing that all these awards should

a) Be announced before the playoffs

b) Count the playoffs and be announced at the end of the year

Announcing CotY after that coach just got totally out coached and humiliated is silly.

Thibodeau would've gotten the Suns the #1 Seed

[nedleeds]

Your posts are trash even on the GB too..

Tell me more about trash takes.

Nevertheless, Payton is not a finished product yet and unless the team moves him in a couple of weeks, I anticipate him trending upward with this coaching staff.

Thibs just decided to play his 2 decent players 38 (Randle, led the league) and RJ 36 minutes. The Knicks lost almost no man games to injury except Mitch. We lost no rotation players to Covid while the rest of the league had 2-3 players out. The Knicks record against the top 3 teams in the East was awful. The Knicks banked 10-12 fake wins playing against the Milwaukee Thannasises and Bostons G-League Red Claws. He's not a good offensive coach. He just makes people play a ton of minutes and brings defensive accountability and effort. Overall he's a regular season wonder, who gets rolled in the playoffs because his offense is predictable and can't adjust. Dwayne Casey, Steve Clifford, etc. all the same guy.

Monte Williams got a team that didn't make the playoffs 1 game away from the #1 seed in the west and into the second round.

I'm also arguing that all these awards should

a) Be announced before the playoffs

b) Count the playoffs and be announced at the end of the year

Announcing CotY after that coach just got totally out coached and humiliated is silly.

Thibodeau would've gotten the Suns the #1 Seed

Hahahah maybe. Chris Paul would be in a **** wheelchair though.

[dantheman74]

I agree with his award for the regular season. NOONE thought the Knicks would get 4th in the East. People who think Monty deserved it by winning 10 more games with CP3/Booker/Ayton are tripping. The Suns are a championship calibre roster.