Spencer Dinwiddie is nearing agreement on a deal with the Washington Wizards.
Spencer Dinwiddie Close To Deal With Wizards
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My understanding is they don't want Kuzma or Harrell so unless they can flip those for picks or players the Nets want, I don't see how they will sign and trade him. The salaries need to match, too. So it can't just be for a couple of picks.
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brooklyn prob attempts to get kcp or combination of filler
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Devonte Graham is a bargain by comparison.
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Raptors should swoop in and offer Dragic for Dinwiddie in a S&T.
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Damn Dinwiddie about to sign his next contract right when BTC is back up at tops lol.
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Monky15 wrote:Devonte Graham is a bargain by comparison.
That deal looks killer good now
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Oden2 wrote:Monky15 wrote:Devonte Graham is a bargain by comparison.
That deal looks killer good now
It's only a bargain if you ignore that they gave up a FRP and lost Ball (far superior player to Graham) for only a 2nd back
Dude is a career 37% shooter and even in his most improved year was ... a 37% shooter
The Pels are the losers of this deal unless you measure on "who paid the lowest salary"
Among the cheapest franchises in sports
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puja21 wrote:Oden2 wrote:Monky15 wrote:Devonte Graham is a bargain by comparison.
That deal looks killer good now
It's only a bargain if you ignore that they gave up a FRP and lost Ball (far superior player to Graham) for only a 2nd back
Dude is a career 37% shooter and even in his most improved year was ... a 37% shooter
The Pels are the losers of this deal unless you measure on "who paid the lowest salary"
Among the cheapest franchises in sports
IDC about NOP the franchise I neither love them or hate them, this is about contracts, how they came to be on their team will have zero bearing on their trade value going forward, it will be all about their production/ influence vs cost.
Imagine paying 20M per year for a career 32% 3pt shooter who hasn't shot above 31% in the last 2 seasons while being a turnstile on defence and trying to say its a better deal than a guy who has consistently shot better while being younger and only earning 60% of the other guy. SMH the difference is easily worth a non lotto pick. Hell the 24M in savings alone is worth the pick they used to make sure Charlotte wouldn't match.
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Revived wrote:Damn Dinwiddie about to sign his next contract right when BTC is back up at tops lol.
BTC is not "back up tops."
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Monky15 wrote:puja21 wrote:Oden2 wrote:
That deal looks killer good now
It's only a bargain if you ignore that they gave up a FRP and lost Ball (far superior player to Graham) for only a 2nd back
Dude is a career 37% shooter and even in his most improved year was ... a 37% shooter
The Pels are the losers of this deal unless you measure on "who paid the lowest salary"
Among the cheapest franchises in sports
IDC about NOP the franchise I neither love them or hate them, this is about contracts, how they came to be on their team will have zero bearing on their trade value going forward, it will be all about their production/ influence vs cost.
Imagine paying 20M per year for a career 32% 3pt shooter who hasn't shot above 31% in the last 2 seasons while being a turnstile on defence and trying to say its a better deal than a guy who has consistently shot better while being younger and only earning 60% of the other guy. SMH the difference is easily worth a non lotto pick. Hell the 24M in savings alone is worth the pick they used to make sure Charlotte wouldn't match.
Who are you talking about here? Not Ball -- he has shot over 37% 3P on massive attempts each of the last 2 seasons and although scouts are varied on his defense, he has a lot of supporters
e.g.
[url]?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1364047327946752006%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Flonzowire.usatoday.com%2F2021%2F02%2F24%2Flonzo-ball-news-pelicans-defense-stats%2F[/url]
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puja21 wrote:Monky15 wrote:puja21 wrote:
It's only a bargain if you ignore that they gave up a FRP and lost Ball (far superior player to Graham) for only a 2nd back
Dude is a career 37% shooter and even in his most improved year was ... a 37% shooter
The Pels are the losers of this deal unless you measure on "who paid the lowest salary"
Among the cheapest franchises in sports
IDC about NOP the franchise I neither love them or hate them, this is about contracts, how they came to be on their team will have zero bearing on their trade value going forward, it will be all about their production/ influence vs cost.
Imagine paying 20M per year for a career 32% 3pt shooter who hasn't shot above 31% in the last 2 seasons while being a turnstile on defence and trying to say its a better deal than a guy who has consistently shot better while being younger and only earning 60% of the other guy. SMH the difference is easily worth a non lotto pick. Hell the 24M in savings alone is worth the pick they used to make sure Charlotte wouldn't match.
Who are you talking about here? Not Ball -- he has shot over 37% 3P on massive attempts each of the last 2 seasons and although scouts are varied on his defense, he has a lot of supporters
e.g.
[url]?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1364047327946752006%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Flonzowire.usatoday.com%2F2021%2F02%2F24%2Flonzo-ball-news-pelicans-defense-stats%2F[/url]
Dude we are talking about Graham V Dinwiddie here and there contracts vs production, don't drag Ball into this.
Edit: I was obviously talking about Dinwiddie in my previous post because that was what the comparison and discussion was about, i put this edit in cos it might not have been 100% clear with my post.
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Monky15 wrote:puja21 wrote:Monky15 wrote:
IDC about NOP the franchise I neither love them or hate them, this is about contracts, how they came to be on their team will have zero bearing on their trade value going forward, it will be all about their production/ influence vs cost.
Imagine paying 20M per year for a career 32% 3pt shooter who hasn't shot above 31% in the last 2 seasons while being a turnstile on defence and trying to say its a better deal than a guy who has consistently shot better while being younger and only earning 60% of the other guy. SMH the difference is easily worth a non lotto pick. Hell the 24M in savings alone is worth the pick they used to make sure Charlotte wouldn't match.
Who are you talking about here? Not Ball -- he has shot over 37% 3P on massive attempts each of the last 2 seasons and although scouts are varied on his defense, he has a lot of supporters
e.g.
[url]?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1364047327946752006%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Flonzowire.usatoday.com%2F2021%2F02%2F24%2Flonzo-ball-news-pelicans-defense-stats%2F[/url]
Dude we are talking about Graham V Dinwiddie here and there contracts vs production, don't drag Ball into this.
Edit: I was obviously talking about Dinwiddie in my previous post because that was what the comparison and discussion was about, i put this edit in cos it might not have been 100% clear with my post.
I wasn't talking Dinwiddie -- I was replying to the comment about "Graham's deal being a good contract."
Hornets gave up Ball+FRP for Graham+2RP <-- this is literally the trade, so we're comparing Ball money + production to Graham
Hornets have nothing to do w/ Spencer D
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puja21 wrote:Monky15 wrote:puja21 wrote:
Who are you talking about here? Not Ball -- he has shot over 37% 3P on massive attempts each of the last 2 seasons and although scouts are varied on his defense, he has a lot of supporters
e.g.
[url]?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1364047327946752006%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Flonzowire.usatoday.com%2F2021%2F02%2F24%2Flonzo-ball-news-pelicans-defense-stats%2F[/url]
Dude we are talking about Graham V Dinwiddie here and there contracts vs production, don't drag Ball into this.
Edit: I was obviously talking about Dinwiddie in my previous post because that was what the comparison and discussion was about, i put this edit in cos it might not have been 100% clear with my post.
I wasn't talking Dinwiddie -- I was replying to the comment about "Graham's deal being a good contract."
Hornets gave up Ball+FRP for Graham+2RP <-- this is literally the trade, so we're comparing Ball money + production to Graham
Hornets have nothing to do w/ Spencer D
This whole thread is about Spencer, read the title.
All my comments are regarding Spencer and how he is overpaid compared to Graham, go start your own thread about NOP front office decisions if that's what you want to talk about. It's not Grahams fault that Griff is a **** GM.
You have taken me saying that Graham is on a better contact than Dinwiddie as some whole thing where you think I endorse all NOP's moves that lead up to Grahams signing when all that is beside the point. If you want to talk about the Pelicans off season go start a thread on that.
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Monky15 wrote:puja21 wrote:Monky15 wrote:
Dude we are talking about Graham V Dinwiddie here and there contracts vs production, don't drag Ball into this.
Edit: I was obviously talking about Dinwiddie in my previous post because that was what the comparison and discussion was about, i put this edit in cos it might not have been 100% clear with my post.
I wasn't talking Dinwiddie -- I was replying to the comment about "Graham's deal being a good contract."
Hornets gave up Ball+FRP for Graham+2RP <-- this is literally the trade, so we're comparing Ball money + production to Graham
Hornets have nothing to do w/ Spencer D
This whole thread is about Spencer, read the title.
All my comments are regarding Spencer and how he is overpaid compared to Graham, go start your own thread about NOP front office decisions if that's what you want to talk about. It's not Grahams fault that Griff is a **** GM.
You have taken me saying that Graham is on a better contact than Dinwiddie as some whole thing where you think I endorse all NOP's moves that lead up to Grahams signing when all that is beside the point. If you want to talk about the Pelicans off season go start a thread on that.
Thanks I'm all set on "starting my own thread" -- it's a message board, no need to worry about policing a public forum or my commentary, it's falling on deaf ears.
You brought up Graham's contract. Discussion around the total compensation is relevant to that comment
If you personally don't feel like discussing, OK
:: shrug ::
move along then? Plenty of other readers coming through WireTap
My take: it's a bad transaction when you consider what they gave up; And yes, agree Griff is proving himself a bad GM.