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The Los Angeles Lakers were "strongly considering" signing Isaiah Thomas until Rajon Rondo became available with his buyout with the Memphis Grizzlies.
Thomas averaged 7.7 points, 1.3 rebounds and 1.7 assists in 16.0 minutes over three games last season with the New Orleans Pelicans.
Thomas has appeared in just 87 games since the end of the 16-17 season.
tigerae wrote:I feel really bad for IT because he's a baller and was dedicated to his team. The Celtics ruined his career. I hope he gets picked up by someone.
FrodoFraggins wrote:tigerae wrote:I feel really bad for IT because he's a baller and was dedicated to his team. The Celtics ruined his career. I hope he gets picked up by someone.
IT had a known congenital defect that would continue to cause problems. He chose to keep playing after the injury and there is zero evidence he was lied to. He also has the responsibility to get multiple opinions.
Anyway, he refused surgery after the season as he didn't want to hurt his chance for a paycheck by missing the season. All he cared about was the short term. He gambled that he would get better without surgery and he lost.
tigerae wrote:FrodoFraggins wrote:tigerae wrote:I feel really bad for IT because he's a baller and was dedicated to his team. The Celtics ruined his career. I hope he gets picked up by someone.
IT had a known congenital defect that would continue to cause problems. He chose to keep playing after the injury and there is zero evidence he was lied to. He also has the responsibility to get multiple opinions.
Anyway, he refused surgery after the season as he didn't want to hurt his chance for a paycheck by missing the season. All he cared about was the short term. He gambled that he would get better without surgery and he lost.
Not entirely accurate. The Celtics didn't let him know what can happen if he continued to play with his hip injury and misdiagnosed him on purpose. They told him initially it was a bone bruise which wasn't enough for him to sit out or to go get a 2nd opinion on a bone bruise. It wasn't until much later that he was diagnosed with a right femoral-acetabular impingement with labral tear. If I was him I would actually bring up a lawsuit against them.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10004000-isaiah-thomas-says-celtics-didnt-reveal-long-term-risk-of-2017-hip-injury
As for dedication, he also played for the Celtics right after his sister passed away. Team loyalty didn't mean anything to the Celtics and them lying to him about the injury is insane. The same happened to KD and the Warriors when they told him there's no way he would make his injury worse in the Finals. I was glad Kyrie turned out to be a bust for them. They fully deserved it.
puja21 wrote:tigerae wrote:FrodoFraggins wrote:
IT had a known congenital defect that would continue to cause problems. He chose to keep playing after the injury and there is zero evidence he was lied to. He also has the responsibility to get multiple opinions.
Anyway, he refused surgery after the season as he didn't want to hurt his chance for a paycheck by missing the season. All he cared about was the short term. He gambled that he would get better without surgery and he lost.
Not entirely accurate. The Celtics didn't let him know what can happen if he continued to play with his hip injury and misdiagnosed him on purpose. They told him initially it was a bone bruise which wasn't enough for him to sit out or to go get a 2nd opinion on a bone bruise. It wasn't until much later that he was diagnosed with a right femoral-acetabular impingement with labral tear. If I was him I would actually bring up a lawsuit against them.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10004000-isaiah-thomas-says-celtics-didnt-reveal-long-term-risk-of-2017-hip-injury
As for dedication, he also played for the Celtics right after his sister passed away. Team loyalty didn't mean anything to the Celtics and them lying to him about the injury is insane. The same happened to KD and the Warriors when they told him there's no way he would make his injury worse in the Finals. I was glad Kyrie turned out to be a bust for them. They fully deserved it.
You must be excitedly hoping AD forces his way out of LA then?
"Lakers medical staff determined Davis was healthy enough to play following a two-game absence after originally being diagnosed with Achilles tendinosis. Later, an MRI showed he had a calf strain and a re-aggravation of the right Achilles tendinosis, Davis’ agent, Rich Paul."
Plenty of similar chatter about the groin injury being reaggravated.
Guess the Lakers ruined his season and fully deserve to reap what they sow too?
tigerae wrote:FrodoFraggins wrote:tigerae wrote:I feel really bad for IT because he's a baller and was dedicated to his team. The Celtics ruined his career. I hope he gets picked up by someone.
IT had a known congenital defect that would continue to cause problems. He chose to keep playing after the injury and there is zero evidence he was lied to. He also has the responsibility to get multiple opinions.
Anyway, he refused surgery after the season as he didn't want to hurt his chance for a paycheck by missing the season. All he cared about was the short term. He gambled that he would get better without surgery and he lost.
Not entirely accurate. The Celtics didn't let him know what can happen if he continued to play with his hip injury and misdiagnosed him on purpose. They told him initially it was a bone bruise which wasn't enough for him to sit out or to go get a 2nd opinion on a bone bruise. It wasn't until much later that he was diagnosed with a right femoral-acetabular impingement with labral tear. If I was him I would actually bring up a lawsuit against them.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10004000-isaiah-thomas-says-celtics-didnt-reveal-long-term-risk-of-2017-hip-injury
As for dedication, he also played for the Celtics right after his sister passed away. Team loyalty didn't mean anything to the Celtics and them lying to him about the injury is insane. The same happened to KD and the Warriors when they told him there's no way he would make his injury worse in the Finals. I was glad Kyrie turned out to be a bust for them. They fully deserved it.
Sure, here you go, this is from back in 2017:FrodoFraggins wrote:tigerae wrote:FrodoFraggins wrote:
IT had a known congenital defect that would continue to cause problems. He chose to keep playing after the injury and there is zero evidence he was lied to. He also has the responsibility to get multiple opinions.
Anyway, he refused surgery after the season as he didn't want to hurt his chance for a paycheck by missing the season. All he cared about was the short term. He gambled that he would get better without surgery and he lost.
Not entirely accurate. The Celtics didn't let him know what can happen if he continued to play with his hip injury and misdiagnosed him on purpose. They told him initially it was a bone bruise which wasn't enough for him to sit out or to go get a 2nd opinion on a bone bruise. It wasn't until much later that he was diagnosed with a right femoral-acetabular impingement with labral tear. If I was him I would actually bring up a lawsuit against them.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10004000-isaiah-thomas-says-celtics-didnt-reveal-long-term-risk-of-2017-hip-injury
As for dedication, he also played for the Celtics right after his sister passed away. Team loyalty didn't mean anything to the Celtics and them lying to him about the injury is insane. The same happened to KD and the Warriors when they told him there's no way he would make his injury worse in the Finals. I was glad Kyrie turned out to be a bust for them. They fully deserved it.
Well I'll need a better source than bitter IT. He says one thing and the team says something different. Even after the playoffs he refused the surgery he needed and that's why he's out of the league. He never wanted to hear anything about surgery as he wanted to make that next big contract,
Temuhjan wrote:IT will find a better team who will also give him more playing time.
tigerae wrote:Sure, here you go, this is from back in 2017:FrodoFraggins wrote:tigerae wrote:
Not entirely accurate. The Celtics didn't let him know what can happen if he continued to play with his hip injury and misdiagnosed him on purpose. They told him initially it was a bone bruise which wasn't enough for him to sit out or to go get a 2nd opinion on a bone bruise. It wasn't until much later that he was diagnosed with a right femoral-acetabular impingement with labral tear. If I was him I would actually bring up a lawsuit against them.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10004000-isaiah-thomas-says-celtics-didnt-reveal-long-term-risk-of-2017-hip-injury
As for dedication, he also played for the Celtics right after his sister passed away. Team loyalty didn't mean anything to the Celtics and them lying to him about the injury is insane. The same happened to KD and the Warriors when they told him there's no way he would make his injury worse in the Finals. I was glad Kyrie turned out to be a bust for them. They fully deserved it.
Well I'll need a better source than bitter IT. He says one thing and the team says something different. Even after the playoffs he refused the surgery he needed and that's why he's out of the league. He never wanted to hear anything about surgery as he wanted to make that next big contract,
"It was the first time the team had publicly acknowledged any sort of hip tear -- the team now blaming his two-game absence in March on the labral tear, not the right knee bone bruise that was the team's official diagnosis in March. While the Celtics had publicized Kelly Olynyk's and Avery Bradley's hip injuries during the playoffs, Thomas' far more serious labrum tear had not been made public until it ended his season."
https://abcnews.go.com/Sports/isaiah-thomas-injury-potentially/story?id=49668897
FrodoFraggins wrote:tigerae wrote:Sure, here you go, this is from back in 2017:FrodoFraggins wrote:
Well I'll need a better source than bitter IT. He says one thing and the team says something different. Even after the playoffs he refused the surgery he needed and that's why he's out of the league. He never wanted to hear anything about surgery as he wanted to make that next big contract,
"It was the first time the team had publicly acknowledged any sort of hip tear -- the team now blaming his two-game absence in March on the labral tear, not the right knee bone bruise that was the team's official diagnosis in March. While the Celtics had publicized Kelly Olynyk's and Avery Bradley's hip injuries during the playoffs, Thomas' far more serious labrum tear had not been made public until it ended his season."
https://abcnews.go.com/Sports/isaiah-thomas-injury-potentially/story?id=49668897
Teams commonly don't disclose specifics on injuries while still in the playoffs. Still not enough sorry.
IT had a responsibility to get another opinion if he had any concerns.
People want to create some scenario where the team and their doctors, who were later fired, withheld information. As if they knew exactly what the injury was and what could happen. Everything that's been revealed is that the specialists didn't even know exactly what the issue was at the time. There is zero evidence that Ainge and the organization withheld info from him or lied to him. The players association would have been all over that if it was the case.
the article made it clear that the injury was tricky to diagnose and that:
"After consultation with specialists and team doctors, Thomas, who declined to comment for this story, decided not to undergo surgery on his labral tear, instead focusing on rest and rehabilitation over the summer."
That was the biggest issue in terms of why he never returned anywhere close to normal. He made the situation worse by not treating it properly. The dude was cursed.
tigerae wrote:FrodoFraggins wrote:tigerae wrote:Sure, here you go, this is from back in 2017:
"It was the first time the team had publicly acknowledged any sort of hip tear -- the team now blaming his two-game absence in March on the labral tear, not the right knee bone bruise that was the team's official diagnosis in March. While the Celtics had publicized Kelly Olynyk's and Avery Bradley's hip injuries during the playoffs, Thomas' far more serious labrum tear had not been made public until it ended his season."
https://abcnews.go.com/Sports/isaiah-thomas-injury-potentially/story?id=49668897
Teams commonly don't disclose specifics on injuries while still in the playoffs. Still not enough sorry.
IT had a responsibility to get another opinion if he had any concerns.
People want to create some scenario where the team and their doctors, who were later fired, withheld information. As if they knew exactly what the injury was and what could happen. Everything that's been revealed is that the specialists didn't even know exactly what the issue was at the time. There is zero evidence that Ainge and the organization withheld info from him or lied to him. The players association would have been all over that if it was the case.
the article made it clear that the injury was tricky to diagnose and that:
"After consultation with specialists and team doctors, Thomas, who declined to comment for this story, decided not to undergo surgery on his labral tear, instead focusing on rest and rehabilitation over the summer."
That was the biggest issue in terms of why he never returned anywhere close to normal. He made the situation worse by not treating it properly. The dude was cursed.
The initial injury was back in March during a regular season game against the Wolves when they called it a bone bruise. Had nothing to do with a playoff injury. That timeline and information from the article back in 2017 matches exactly with what IT said in his recent interview.
Why cover it up if it was a real tricky injury? Why say it was a reaggrivation of the hip tear that occurred back in March and ignore the fact that it was called a bone bruise in March? As you said, the doctor in the article did say it can be hard to diagnose, so just say that then. Say the injury that occurred back in March is more serious than initially thought or something to that tune. Saying what they said to me says there was something fishy going on from the start.
Why even have a training and medical staff then if it's supposed to be up to the players to get right information and treatment? That's the whole point of the team having their own staff. To make sure their players are healthy and to treat injuries appropriately.
You can make excuses all you want for your team, but the bottom line is they had a big part in ruining his career even though he was extremely loyal to the team.
