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Luke Walton's Job Could Be In Danger If Kings Continue To Struggle

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 4:48 pm
by RealGM Wiretap

The job of Luke Walton is in peril if the Sacramento Kings continue their slide, sources tell The Athletic. The Kings started the season 5-4 before losing four straight.


The Kings are determined to break their 15-year playoff drought and Walton won't be given the same leeway to turn things around as he was last season.


Walton's approval rating with players and the partnership he created with Monte McNair allowed him to return this season.


Walton has this season and next guaranteed on his contract for a combined $11.5 million.

Via Sam Amick, Shams Charania/The Athletic


Re: Luke Walton's Job Could Be In Danger If Kings Continue To Struggle

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 5:22 pm
by HotelVitale
They won about 40% of games each of the last three years, they haven’t changed the team much and they’re winning about 40% of games this year. Not sure how much time coach blaming will buy you.

Re: Luke Walton's Job Could Be In Danger If Kings Continue To Struggle

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 5:35 pm
by RipCityKJ
Let's face it if it weren't for the few Chris Webber years that playoff streak would be 30+ years. Like someone who's been divorced multiple times (Kim Kardashian), at some point you have to realize that maybe you're the problem?

Re: Luke Walton's Job Could Be In Danger If Kings Continue To Struggle

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 6:18 pm
by MegaK
If he were any other race he'd be fired already bro.

Re: Luke Walton's Job Could Be In Danger If Kings Continue To Struggle

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 6:30 pm
by ebrian
I think the conclusion we can draw from stories like this is, try to avoid coaching poopoo franchises. You're going to get fired, because the fact is they're never going to draft or develop good players, nor will they be able to bring anyone in of any substance via free agency.

"If the Kings continue to struggle"? They're not struggling, they are playing exactly within what they are capable of playing.

Re: Luke Walton's Job Could Be In Danger If Kings Continue To Struggle

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 6:34 pm
by ishoy123
ebrian wrote:I think the conclusion we can draw from stories like this is, try to avoid coaching poopoo franchises. You're going to get fired, because the fact is they're never going to draft or develop good players, nor will they be able to bring anyone in of any substance via free agency.

"If the Kings continue to struggle"? They're not struggling, they are playing exactly within what they are capable of playing.


In fairness, isn't it partly the job of the coach and the team to develop players?

Re: Luke Walton's Job Could Be In Danger If Kings Continue To Struggle

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 6:38 pm
by jigga_man
He probably has another head coach job lined up before even gets fired.

Re: Luke Walton's Job Could Be In Danger If Kings Continue To Struggle

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 7:38 pm
by Pickled Prunes
Foolishness! SAC is a couple of starters away from being a play-in team. They are starting Mo Harkless for god's sake. And believe it or not, he might be their best option at the moment. They might have missed their opportunity to trade Fox for something worthwhile.

Either way, this is not a coaching problem!

Re: Luke Walton's Job Could Be In Danger If Kings Continue To Struggle

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 7:41 pm
by Pickled Prunes
MegaK wrote:If he were any other race he'd be fired already bro.

He's a member of the human race... Martians can kiss my arse!!!

Re: Luke Walton's Job Could Be In Danger If Kings Continue To Struggle

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 7:56 pm
by hyberx
MegaK wrote:If he were any other race he'd be fired already bro.


Wanna do your basic math and count some facts and numbers here?

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/514524-nba-power-rankings-the-50-worst-coaches-in-nba-history

Re: Luke Walton's Job Could Be In Danger If Kings Continue To Struggle

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 8:24 pm
by objectivefan
I am convinced that Sacramento does not want to win. They have figured out how to turn a profit via revenue sharing.

Their philosophy: as long as they are turning a profit what does it matter if they win/lose. Only their "true" fans care if they win or lose, the owners' and the management team does not

Re: Luke Walton's Job Could Be In Danger If Kings Continue To Struggle

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 8:47 pm
by tyler_rex
I can't really put all of this on Luke yes he isn't a great coach but look at this roster, its clear the Kings do not know how to draft or construct a team. I don' t think there is any coach out there that can win with this team and until the Kings bring someone in who knows how to build a winning team no coach will succeed

Re: Luke Walton's Job Could Be In Danger If Kings Continue To Struggle

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:24 pm
by BooRadleysHouse
Honestly, Walton needs some blame at this point. The team has some talent with Fox, Hield, Barnes, Haliburton, Holmes, etc. If he can't figure out how to improve their record, he deserves blame.

BUT...the management is even worse. The Bagley pick was a catastrophe and they seem to have about the worst morale in the NBA.

Re: Luke Walton's Job Could Be In Danger If Kings Continue To Struggle

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:26 pm
by Scalabrine
No ****!

Re: Luke Walton's Job Could Be In Danger If Kings Continue To Struggle

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 12:36 am
by HotelVitale
ebrian wrote:I think the conclusion we can draw from stories like this is, try to avoid coaching poopoo franchises. You're going to get fired, because the fact is they're never going to draft or develop good players, nor will they be able to bring anyone in of any substance via free agency.


The Kings have changed owners, GMs, presidents, etc numerous times during their long playoff drought, so unless you think the logo and colors are cursed it doesn't make sense to blame the franchise itself. Plus I don't think anyone has any problems with their drafting etc recently. They've had some weak GMs, and both the Maloofs and Ranadive seem to make smart team-building harder, but they've also just had a fair amount of decent moves end up going badly.

BooRadleysHouse wrote:Honestly, Walton needs some blame at this point. The team has some talent with Fox, Hield, Barnes, Haliburton, Holmes, etc. If he can't figure out how to improve their record, he deserves blame.


Thing is they haven't been terrible with Walton, they win like twice as many games as the truly bad teams and usually end up just outside of the playoff picture. It's a tough place to be at but they've won about as much as you'd expect with talent like that--some good players but no clear all-stars (let alone a real all-NBA talent) and not much depth or anything. I don't mind them firing Walton just to shake things up, nothing to lose there, but they'd be overachieving if they were like a 6th seed.

Re: Luke Walton's Job Could Be In Danger If Kings Continue To Struggle

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 1:53 am
by Lockdown504090
how does the guy who drafted bagley have the right to fire anyone.

Re: Luke Walton's Job Could Be In Danger If Kings Continue To Struggle

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:53 am
by kio80
the real question is, why the F is he still here

Re: Luke Walton's Job Could Be In Danger If Kings Continue To Struggle

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 1:36 pm
by druggas
The blame starts at the top, and that's where they need to hire competent basketball people, long before you fire your coach..

Re: Luke Walton's Job Could Be In Danger If Kings Continue To Struggle

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 12:06 am
by SacKingZZZ
Lockdown504090 wrote:how does the guy who drafted bagley have the right to fire anyone.


Because it isn't the guy who drafted Bagley. They either didn't let the new GM pick his own guy, or he made the mistake of thinking Luke Walton was a good coach.

Re: Luke Walton's Job Could Be In Danger If Kings Continue To Struggle

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 12:36 am
by Lockdown504090
SacKingZZZ wrote:
Lockdown504090 wrote:how does the guy who drafted bagley have the right to fire anyone.


Because it isn't the guy who drafted Bagley. They either didn't let the new GM pick his own guy, or he made the mistake of thinking Luke Walton was a good coach.

In that case why wasnt he fired before training camp? none of this makes sense. Luke is just as bad as he was the last 2 years. I dont get it, this is like morey coming in and not moving ben right away. If you know you want someone else, just do it right away before its a midseason move.