dice wrote:this is dangerous nonsense.
There's a trend for specific types to label everything you disagree with as "dangerous"
if you wait until there is long-term data, countless lives has been lost.
No, not "countless" you understand there are many countries that aren't highly vaccinated? They aren't swimming in deaths per million. This current strain of covid is even less deadly than previous.
And you call things "dangerous" but are saying that it's fine to rush a vaccine thru and take it despite not having long term data as far as effects on health? That actually is dangerous and it's not just me that agrees, the entire FDA does too, that's why they have the process for drug approval that lasts anywhere from 5-10 years.
they don't HAVE adverse affects that suddenly show up months or years later. the only negative consequences stem from immediate reactions that might linger
That's wrong. Why don't you educate yourself on VAERS? Let me guess, it's an entire conspiracy website that doctors upload patient information to in order to trick people for uh reasons....
https://vaers.hhs.gov/It logs adverse reactions to all drugs. There have been hundreds of long term effects adverse reactions that existed weeks and months later.
the FDA is quite conservative when it comes to authorizing vaccines. and COVID-19 vaccines have been fully authorized for quite a long time now
The vaccine that is currently being given is still given under the EUA, meaning the drug companies cannot be sued or held liable.
Comirnaty is a not the same drug.
Clearly, the vaccine doesn't curb the spread of covid
yes, it actually does. science matters.
Okay, show me the data that the infographic is based on. If "science matters" then surely you looked at the raw data and aren't just posting pictures as arguments.
that data only goes up to september, but it's no different w/ omicron. the vast majority of current new cases in NYC, for example, are amongst the unvaccinated. despite most now being vaccinated! omicron is simply massively contagious, so there will still be significant numbers of vaccinated being infected
show me the data. A vaccinated person is less likely to know they're carrying covid and thus aren't counted. They are also less likely to test without symptoms and many places don't expect vaxxed people to take tests for employment. The stats are skewed beyond repair.
they're in close contact breathing heavily w/o masks! even with that, this wasn't happening to nearly the same degree prior to omicron
Yes....they're vaxxed, why would they need masks? You're arguing both sides of the coin, if the vaccine was effective at stopping the spread, then masks aren't needed and the entire league shouldn't be lit up.
no, not possibly. almost certainly. very few vaccinated individuals are being hospitalized
What does "very few" mean? Hospitals are filled with breakthrough cases, infact the CDC deemed that tracking breakthrough cases wasn't worth it, I'm curious what data you're using.
strawman argument. few are suggesting mandatory vaccination
Not a strawman at all. Attempting to bar people from public life, fire them from their jobs and impose penalties is coercion.
i'm not following. are you suggesting that boosters don't work? or that there were promises made that we would never need boosters for COVID-19? do you poo-pooh flu shots because those are suggested to be taken every year due to viral mutations?
I'm suggesting there a political, a-scientific process occurring here and some people can see it and others just keep taking experimental drugs every few months while gaining absolutely nothing.
I don't take flu shots, I'm young and healthy and don't get sick. Why would I? And why are you comparing the flu and covid?
