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The Oklahoma City Thunder have acquired Miye Oni and a 2028 second round pick from the Utah Jazz.

The Thunder will waive Oni and open up a roster spot.

The Jazz will save money in terms of salary and luxury tax while also opening a roster spot. 

Via Adrian Wojnarowski/ESPN

At this point the NBA draft should be re-labeled : The OKC draft

Hats off to Sam Presti & team -- truly a master-class in stockpiling draft picks.

Presti just continues to let other teams dump on him

meekrab wrote:Presti just continues to let other teams dump on him

He just picked up a free 2nd round pick. How are you mad at that?

OKC could have as many as eleven 1sts and five 2nds in the next 3 drafts. It is possibly the greatest collection of future assets the league has ever seen. Nobody's dumping on Presti.

Pickled Prunes wrote:

meekrab wrote:Presti just continues to let other teams dump on him

He just picked up a free 2nd round pick. How are you mad at that?

OKC could have as many as eleven 1sts and five 2nds in the next 3 drafts. It is possibly the greatest collection of future assets the league has ever seen. Nobody's dumping on Presti.

They wont have room for all those second round picks lol

Neeva wrote:

Pickled Prunes wrote:

meekrab wrote:Presti just continues to let other teams dump on him

He just picked up a free 2nd round pick. How are you mad at that?

OKC could have as many as eleven 1sts and five 2nds in the next 3 drafts. It is possibly the greatest collection of future assets the league has ever seen. Nobody's dumping on Presti.

They wont have room for all those second round picks lol

They don't intend to retain all those second round picks, it's leverage for the future -- what Presti has masterfully done is essentially secure the OKC Thunder's draft capital / trade maneuverability for at least the next 2 decades ( buy trading current picks for future picks ).

Presti will shape the NBA for at least the next decade if not more with all these assets. Truly remarkable and all GMs should stand and take notice how how a rebuild truly is done.

Neeva wrote:

Pickled Prunes wrote:

meekrab wrote:Presti just continues to let other teams dump on him

He just picked up a free 2nd round pick. How are you mad at that?

OKC could have as many as eleven 1sts and five 2nds in the next 3 drafts. It is possibly the greatest collection of future assets the league has ever seen. Nobody's dumping on Presti.

They wont have room for all those second round picks lol

They will be consolidated in trades. OKC has the assets to trade for Jerami Grant, Ben Simmons, CJ McCollum and Buddy Hield! Salary matching would obviously be a problem, but when OKC decides to get good it will happen much faster than it did for PHI.

njknicks wrote:

Neeva wrote:

Pickled Prunes wrote: He just picked up a free 2nd round pick. How are you mad at that? OKC could have as many as eleven 1sts and five 2nds in the next 3 drafts. It is possibly the greatest collection of future assets the league has ever seen. Nobody's dumping on Presti.

They wont have room for all those second round picks lol

They don't intend to retain all those second round picks, it's leverage for the future -- what Presti has masterfully done is essentially secure the OKC Thunder's draft capital / trade maneuverability for at least the next 2 decades ( buy trading current picks for future picks ). Presti will shape the NBA for at least the next decade if not more with all these assets. Truly remarkable and all GMs should stand and take notice how how a rebuild truly is done.

LOL, that's a pretty remarkable and masterful overstatement there, realgm should stand and take notice. I'm totally all for what Presti has done and think it's the right move or a team in their spot, but there's no magic genius to it or anything--he just sold off the high-level talent he had (PG, CP3) for picks, same as almost all rebuilding teams do, and then rented cap space to pick up a few more picks. Those picks are all of course good liquid assets that put you in a good spot to make trades and so on, but they don't guarantee anything on their own. Plus almost all of the 1st rounders come from teams who are towards the top of the standings (Jazz, Heat, Clips, Nuggets, Sixers, etc) now; might get lucky and have one or two be lotto picks but more likely not. And many of the other picks--including the one in this trade--have negligible value and could just be bought at any time by any team.

It's cool and better than not having picks, but it's funny to me you're gassing Presti up as 'masterful' for going into pick-crazy mode.

HotelVitale wrote:

njknicks wrote:

Neeva wrote: They wont have room for all those second round picks lol

They don't intend to retain all those second round picks, it's leverage for the future -- what Presti has masterfully done is essentially secure the OKC Thunder's draft capital / trade maneuverability for at least the next 2 decades ( buy trading current picks for future picks ). Presti will shape the NBA for at least the next decade if not more with all these assets. Truly remarkable and all GMs should stand and take notice how how a rebuild truly is done.

LOL, that's a pretty remarkable and masterful overstatement there, realgm should stand and take notice. I'm totally all for what Presti has done and think it's the right move or a team in their spot, but there's no magic genius to it or anything--he just sold off the high-level talent he had (PG, CP3) for picks, same as almost all rebuilding teams do, and then rented cap space to pick up a few more picks. Those picks are all of course good liquid assets that put you in a good spot to make trades and so on, but they don't guarantee anything on their own. Plus almost all of the 1st rounders come from teams who are towards the top of the standings (Jazz, Heat, Clips, Nuggets, Sixers, etc) now; might get lucky and have one or two be lotto picks but more likely not. And many of the other picks--including the one in this trade--have negligible value and could just be bought at any time by any team.

It's cool and better than not having picks, but it's funny to me you're gassing Presti up as 'masterful' for going into pick-crazy mode.

Smiling as you have valid points -- but masterful execution because we have never seen this sheer volume of picks being accumulated by a single team, EVER -- teams have gone the tanking route, but never gone the amassing picks route along w/cap space. Yes the picks are likely late 1st rounders given the quality of the teams exchanging them as you shared -- but the ability to acquire / amass on such sheer volume is remarkable considering that the draft is the premium source of talent for the NBA. More intriguing is just how they will execute this stockpile in future trades, etc.

njknicks wrote:

Neeva wrote:

Pickled Prunes wrote:He just picked up a free 2nd round pick. How are you mad at that?

OKC could have as many as eleven 1sts and five 2nds in the next 3 drafts. It is possibly the greatest collection of future assets the league has ever seen. Nobody's dumping on Presti.

They wont have room for all those second round picks lol

They don't intend to retain all those second round picks, it's leverage for the future -- what Presti has masterfully done is essentially secure the OKC Thunder's draft capital / trade maneuverability for at least the next 2 decades ( buy trading current picks for future picks ).

Presti will shape the NBA for at least the next decade if not more with all these assets. Truly remarkable and all GMs should stand and take notice how how a rebuild truly is done.

This is the same old story we heard about the Celtics for the last decade oh Danny Ainge has stockpiled so many picks the Celtics will be the dominant team for years to come and what came of it nothing and the 76ers before them under Hinkie. Ainge overplayed his hand by refusing to part with picks and the Celtics were a far better destination for players than OKC and zero finals appearances.
76ers scored on two of their many picks Simmons and Embid and look what it has gotten them a good but not great team in the East not even one ECF appearance. So having all these picks doesn't mean a thing if you can't use them to bring in an impact player or create a dominant team and so far the last two examples of teams hoarding picks hasn't panned out for either team and OKC isn't likely to do any better especially with a cheap owner who already broke up one potentially great team because he didn't want to pay the players.

tyler_rex wrote:

njknicks wrote:

Neeva wrote:
They wont have room for all those second round picks lol

They don't intend to retain all those second round picks, it's leverage for the future -- what Presti has masterfully done is essentially secure the OKC Thunder's draft capital / trade maneuverability for at least the next 2 decades ( buy trading current picks for future picks ).

Presti will shape the NBA for at least the next decade if not more with all these assets. Truly remarkable and all GMs should stand and take notice how how a rebuild truly is done.

This is the same old story we heard about the Celtics for the last decade oh Danny Ainge has stockpiled so many picks the Celtics will be the dominant team for years to come and what came of it nothing and the 76ers before them under Hinkie. Ainge overplayed his hand by refusing to part with picks and the Celtics were a far better destination for players than OKC and zero finals appearances.
76ers scored on two of their many picks Simmons and Embid and look what it has gotten them a good but not great team in the East not even one ECF appearance. So having all these picks doesn't mean a thing if you can't use them to bring in an impact player or create a dominant team and so far the last two examples of teams hoarding picks hasn't panned out for either team and OKC isn't likely to do any better especially with a cheap owner who already broke up one potentially great team because he didn't want to pay the players.

Can we all agree that having 16 picks in the next three drafts is better than not having 16 picks in the next three drafts. Also, a #14 and #23 could easily become a #7. Time will tell.

njknicks wrote:

HotelVitale wrote:

njknicks wrote:They don't intend to retain all those second round picks, it's leverage for the future -- what Presti has masterfully done is essentially secure the OKC Thunder's draft capital / trade maneuverability for at least the next 2 decades ( buy trading current picks for future picks ). Presti will shape the NBA for at least the next decade if not more with all these assets. Truly remarkable and all GMs should stand and take notice how how a rebuild truly is done.

LOL, that's a pretty remarkable and masterful overstatement there, realgm should stand and take notice. I'm totally all for what Presti has done and think it's the right move or a team in their spot, but there's no magic genius to it or anything--he just sold off the high-level talent he had (PG, CP3) for picks, same as almost all rebuilding teams do, and then rented cap space to pick up a few more picks. Those picks are all of course good liquid assets that put you in a good spot to make trades and so on, but they don't guarantee anything on their own. Plus almost all of the 1st rounders come from teams who are towards the top of the standings (Jazz, Heat, Clips, Nuggets, Sixers, etc) now; might get lucky and have one or two be lotto picks but more likely not. And many of the other picks--including the one in this trade--have negligible value and could just be bought at any time by any team.

It's cool and better than not having picks, but it's funny to me you're gassing Presti up as 'masterful' for going into pick-crazy mode.

Smiling as you have valid points -- but masterful execution because we have never seen this sheer volume of picks being accumulated by a single team, EVER -- teams have gone the tanking route, but never gone the amassing picks route along w/cap space. Yes the picks are likely late 1st rounders given the quality of the teams exchanging them as you shared -- but the ability to acquire / amass on such sheer volume is remarkable considering that the draft is the premium source of talent for the NBA. More intriguing is just how they will execute this stockpile in future trades, etc.

None of those picks but their own are that valuable. Teams don’t care for 2nds thats why they always trade them.

a more current player that will now be available for 10 day contracts.

tyler_rex wrote:

njknicks wrote:

Neeva wrote:
They wont have room for all those second round picks lol

They don't intend to retain all those second round picks, it's leverage for the future -- what Presti has masterfully done is essentially secure the OKC Thunder's draft capital / trade maneuverability for at least the next 2 decades ( buy trading current picks for future picks ).

Presti will shape the NBA for at least the next decade if not more with all these assets. Truly remarkable and all GMs should stand and take notice how how a rebuild truly is done.

This is the same old story we heard about the Celtics for the last decade oh Danny Ainge has stockpiled so many picks the Celtics will be the dominant team for years to come and what came of it nothing and the 76ers before them under Hinkie. Ainge overplayed his hand by refusing to part with picks and the Celtics were a far better destination for players than OKC and zero finals appearances.
76ers scored on two of their many picks Simmons and Embid and look what it has gotten them a good but not great team in the East not even one ECF appearance. So having all these picks doesn't mean a thing if you can't use them to bring in an impact player or create a dominant team and so far the last two examples of teams hoarding picks hasn't panned out for either team and OKC isn't likely to do any better especially with a cheap owner who already broke up one potentially great team because he didn't want to pay the players.

Agree with your points, ultimately depends on how you use the picks ( rather than just hoarding for the sake of hoarding or refusing to offer contracts to talented players ) -- Celtics are a far better historical destination for players than OKC, but OKC has done remarkably well in a far more competitive Western Conference since its inception in 2009 : a finals appearance vs Heat ( Lebron / Wade / Bosh prime ) + 3 Western conference finals appearances. No doubt, having an all-time great like Durant & Westbrook / Harden, etc. was key ( great eye for talent ).

Hopefully Presti takes the right approach with his draft capital rather then mirror the Danny Ainge's hoarding approach.

Celtics / Ainge did not have the astronomical volume of picks that Presti now has for multiple seasons this upcoming decade.