donemilio21 wrote:I might be mistaken, but the team that trades for Turner would also get his bird rights. That is actually really valuable for a team that is expected to be cap strapped in the summer of 2023, and would need a big man. Celtics, Mavs, Blazers, Raptors, Bucks are a few teams that come to mind. Do any of them need Turner right now?
Yes a team that trades for Turner would get his Bird Rights. It is valuable.
For max cats having their Bird Rights are super duper valuable since the team that has their Bird can offer a that player a contract that is A LOT LOT more than any other team in free agency. For guys like Turner (i.e. not max cat) it still is very valuable since teams without cap space would have to work a sign and trade and Turner himself would likely still benefit from a contract standpoint via sign-and-trade instead of just signing outright with whatever team he may want to go to (this has to do with things like length of contract, size of contract even if it's not max, salary relief for the team he'd be heading to, etc.) as well as leaving on better terms with his former team (which helps players and especially agents who will want to continue to be have good working relationships with the players old team, etc.) Turner's contract is not as big a detriment/risk as some people may be thinking it is.
As far as teams interested only being teams that have an absolute need for a C? That's not always true. Turner the player has a lot of value (he's only 25 and not even in his prime, he's got skills that fit todays NBA, can argue that in a different system he actually can become more dominant, etc.) be it as a core player moving forward or as an asset. So even a team like the Knicks, who you can argue doesn't need a C, could be interested cause Turner would give them an asset (the assumption of course is that they can get him, like they got Cam Reddish, at a bargain) for future moves OR it can allow them to explore trading their own C (Mitchell Robinson) now because they themselves don't want to invest in Robinson beyond this season (arguments for or against). Or you hold onto both and see what teams are willing to do in the offseason. Not always just about "do they need the guy right now". Need is relative and timelines are different for each team.
Specific to this rumor, the "2 FRP" demand needs to be qualified. What projection are on those 2 FRP's? Depending on where those picks projects it could be a very reasonable expectation or a big stretch of an expectation. FRP's don't have the same value just because they are FRPs though fans love the fantasy of drafting.
