Nets Defer First Round Pick From 76ers To 2023

Post #1 » by **RealGM Wiretap** » Thu Jun 2, 2022 12:16 am

The Brooklyn Nets will defer the acquisition of a first round pick from the Philadelphia 76ers from 2022 to 2023.

The Nets could have received the No. 23 pick in the draft.

The Nets traded James Harden and Paul Millsap to the Sixers for Ben Simmons, Seth Curry, Andre Drummond and the unprotected 2022 first-round pick and top-8-protected 2027 first-round pick at the February trade deadline.

The Sixers can begin to use the No. 23 pick in trades beginning on draft night, but cannot trade another pick for seven years.

Brooklyn owes its own 2022 first round pick to the Houston Rockets as part of their own trade for Harden.

Via Adrian Wojnarowski/ESPN

hyberx · Post #2 » by **hyberx** » Thu Jun 2, 2022 12:54 am

The Nets is waiting for the James Haren trade to blow up in 76ers' face next season. LOL

Embiid P · Post #3 » by **Embiid P** » Thu Jun 2, 2022 1:45 am

hyberx wrote:The Nets is waiting for the James Haren trade to blow up in 76ers' face next season. LOL

Wishful thinking.

Liver_Pooty · Post #4 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Thu Jun 2, 2022 2:35 am

Embiid P wrote:
hyberx wrote:The Nets is waiting for the James Haren trade to blow up in 76ers' face next season. LOL

Wishful thinking.

It's really not.

Embiid P · Post #5 » by **Embiid P** » Thu Jun 2, 2022 2:42 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:
Embiid P wrote:
hyberx wrote:The Nets is waiting for the James Haren trade to blow up in 76ers' face next season. LOL

Wishful thinking.

It's really not.

People assume he's washed but he'll have a whole offseason to heal his hamstring and time to gel with his teammates plus his minutes will be reduced with a deeper bench. Part of the reason why he struggled at the end of the season was because he averaged the third most minutes in the entire league.

BDM22 · Post #6 » by **BDM22** » Thu Jun 2, 2022 4:07 am

Embiid P wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
Embiid P wrote:
Wishful thinking.

It's really not.

People assume he's washed but he'll have a whole offseason to heal his hamstring and time to gel with his teammates plus his minutes will be reduced with a deeper bench. Part of the reason why he struggled at the end of the season was because he averaged the third most minutes in the entire league.

Aight, so why'd he struggle to start the season too?

rocketsfan100 · Post #7 » by **rocketsfan100** » Thu Jun 2, 2022 9:32 am

Embiid P wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
Embiid P wrote:
Wishful thinking.

It's really not.

People assume he's washed but he'll have a whole offseason to heal his hamstring and time to gel with his teammates plus his minutes will be reduced with a deeper bench. Part of the reason why he struggled at the end of the season was because he averaged the third most minutes in the entire league.

Exactly

rocketsfan100 · Post #8 » by **rocketsfan100** » Thu Jun 2, 2022 9:33 am

The nets bracing to be trash next season it seems

Not2BeBothered · Post #9 » by **Not2BeBothered** » Thu Jun 2, 2022 1:11 pm

Embiid P wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
Embiid P wrote:
Wishful thinking.

It's really not.

People assume he's washed but he'll have a whole offseason to heal his hamstring and time to gel with his teammates plus his minutes will be reduced with a deeper bench. Part of the reason why he struggled at the end of the season was because he averaged the third most minutes in the entire league.

So he didn’t have a whole offseason to heal his hamstring last season?
Wishful thinking is, the 76ers getting a deeper bench

Embiid P · Post #10 » by **Embiid P** » Thu Jun 2, 2022 1:50 pm

Not2BeBothered wrote:
Embiid P wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
It's really not.

People assume he's washed but he'll have a whole offseason to heal his hamstring and time to gel with his teammates plus his minutes will be reduced with a deeper bench. Part of the reason why he struggled at the end of the season was because he averaged the third most minutes in the entire league.

So he didn’t have a whole offseason to heal his hamstring last season?
Wishful thinking is, the 76ers getting a deeper bench

He averaged 37 mpg this season which was third most in the league behind Siakam and FVV both of whom are 5 years younger than Harden. If you don't believe that that played a significant role in his subpar performance down the stretch, IDK what to tell you.

Morey can acquire better forwards and bench pieces with picks and young pieces. If he can get Harden's mpg down to 32-33 during the regular season along with the occasional load management down the stretch, it would help conserve his energy for a playoff run.

YourGM99 · Post #11 » by **YourGM99** » Thu Jun 2, 2022 1:54 pm

Smart decision. I would bet on James harden leaving in free agency/continued regression if he returns or potential injuries to embied next season..

Elnegron · Post #12 » by **Elnegron** » Thu Jun 2, 2022 3:05 pm

Harden is washed and embiid a walking broken gimpy man who will be a free agent in 2023. If Homer's think harden wasn't washed then why 76ers are not offering him a full max?

Young Moosehead · Post #13 » by **Young Moosehead** » Thu Jun 2, 2022 4:12 pm

Really smart move.

1) Next year's draft is better.
2) 76ers can't trade this year's draft pick now
3) 76ers with limited assets and aging players probably are more likely to finish lower than 23rd.

Limiting a rival while probably getting a higher pick in a better draft? Not bad.

JMAC3 · Post #14 » by **JMAC3** » Thu Jun 2, 2022 5:43 pm

I actually disagree, Philly will have a more complete roster after free agency and draft now. Last season they were playing with almost zero bench after Harden trade. Now they can add a rookie, MLE player and a few solid Vet min guys.

Sure could the pick be 18th instead of 23rd if Philly suffers a bunch of injuries or whatever? Yeah. but you are wasting an opportunity to add a solid player now around an aging Kevin Durant. This doesn't make Nets better this year, which would be my focus after a horrible season compared to expectations.

TimeisIllmatic · Post #15 » by **TimeisIllmatic** » Thu Jun 2, 2022 6:05 pm

Nets must think Harden will decline even more next year.

Not2BeBothered · Post #16 » by **Not2BeBothered** » Thu Jun 2, 2022 6:26 pm

Embiid P wrote:
Not2BeBothered wrote:
Embiid P wrote:
People assume he's washed but he'll have a whole offseason to heal his hamstring and time to gel with his teammates plus his minutes will be reduced with a deeper bench. Part of the reason why he struggled at the end of the season was because he averaged the third most minutes in the entire league.

So he didn’t have a whole offseason to heal his hamstring last season?
Wishful thinking is, the 76ers getting a deeper bench

He averaged 37 mpg this season which was third most in the league behind Siakam and FVV both of whom are 5 years younger than Harden. If you don't believe that that played a significant role in his subpar performance down the stretch, IDK what to tell you.

Morey can acquire better forwards and bench pieces with picks and young pieces. If he can get Harden's mpg down to 32-33 during the regular season along with the occasional load management down the stretch, it would help conserve his energy for a playoff run.

You said OFF-SEASON, he hurt his hamstring during the 20-21 season and had last off season to heal it, yet he didn’t. What has changed?
People are being very optimistic about their respective franchises having these big off seasons. Philly is capped out and Danny green is most likely gonna retire, so I dont see him being traded, philly has no picks to trade unless they trade the draft rights of whoever they draft this year. Nobody wants Tobias’ contract. I don’t see your roster being that much different. Nets took a gamble, I think philly will have a similar record next season, but if next years draft is deeper and they didn’t like any of the projected players around 23, then it’s a good decision.

Embiid P · Post #17 » by **Embiid P** » Thu Jun 2, 2022 10:02 pm

Not2BeBothered wrote:
Embiid P wrote:
Not2BeBothered wrote:So he didn’t have a whole offseason to heal his hamstring last season?
Wishful thinking is, the 76ers getting a deeper bench

He averaged 37 mpg this season which was third most in the league behind Siakam and FVV both of whom are 5 years younger than Harden. If you don't believe that that played a significant role in his subpar performance down the stretch, IDK what to tell you.

Morey can acquire better forwards and bench pieces with picks and young pieces. If he can get Harden's mpg down to 32-33 during the regular season along with the occasional load management down the stretch, it would help conserve his energy for a playoff run.

You said OFF-SEASON, he hurt his hamstring during the 20-21 season and had last off season to heal it, yet he didn’t. What has changed?
People are being very optimistic about their respective franchises having these big off seasons. Philly is capped out and Danny green is most likely gonna retire, so I dont see him being traded, philly has no picks to trade unless they trade the draft rights of whoever they draft this year. Nobody wants Tobias’ contract. I don’t see your roster being that much different. Nets took a gamble, I think philly will have a similar record next season, but if next years draft is deeper and they didn’t like any of the projected players around 23, then it’s a good decision.

Having the 5 months off or so won't hurt his hammy, will it? Again, much of the problem is that both Nash and Rivers played him too much during the regular season due in part to a lack of depth on either team's bench.

Actually we have a number of young pieces to trade not including Maxey who is off the table unless we are getting back a surefire star. Teams like the Bulls covet Thybulle's defense. Springer (who has yet to turn 20), Reed, Bassey, Joe, etc. Not saying that any of those guys will land us stars but they can be used as incentive for a team to take Harris's contract off our hands. Plus Harris only has 2 years left on his contract so I don't see him as untradeable as he was 2 years or even a year ago.