Knicks Clear $19M In Cap Space By Trading Nerlens Noel, Alec Burks To Pistons

[RealGM Wiretap]

The New York Knicks have agreed to trade Nerlens Noel and Alec Burks to the Detroit Pistons, which will clear $19 million in additional cap space as they are set to pursue Jalen Brunson in free agency.

The Knicks will send the Pistons back its 2023 second round pick, a 2024 second rounder via the Miami Heat, and $6 million in cash.

The Knicks are now considered the strong favorites to sign Brunson with an offer of more than $100 million over four years. 

The Knicks can also offer Brunson the opportunity to be their primary playmaker.

Via Tim MacMahon, Adrian Wojnarowski/ESPN

[bockingknickers]

Don’t mind getting rid of those guys but this Brunson fiasco is getting ridiculous. Why not brogdon or murray at half the price and twice the talent.

[RussellandFlow]

Don’t mind getting rid of those guys but this Brunson fiasco is getting ridiculous. Why not brogdon or murray at half the price and twice the talent.

The Knicks do not have the assets for Murray. While I think Brunson is overrated based on what he will be paid and what the expectations will be Brogdon is injury prone and not twice the talent.

[tigerae]

Great salary dumping trades, however, Brunson isn't that player to give that kind of salary to in my mind, especially over 4 years. I would rather fill in role players with 1 year deals, give bloated 1 year deals to decent players like the Sixers did and wait for the right free agents to try to go after or simply clean house, get some draft assets and tank. They are mediocre enough to not get a good pick with the current roster but also just squeeze in or out of the playoffs.

[Sweet Meat Lew]

None of this justifies giving up the 11th pick.

[njknicks]

Agree with the sentiments on this thread ... Knicks FO has never gone this aggressively for a star player let alone a role player.

Clearing up nearly 30+ m in cap space ( acquiring 3 heavily protected first round picks )
Trading away 11th pick and 6 ( yes six ) second round picks
Sending 6m cash

All for Jalen Brunson?!

[YourGM99]

Don’t mind getting rid of those guys but this Brunson fiasco is getting ridiculous. Why not brogdon or murray at half the price and twice the talent.

The Knicks do not have the assets for Murray. While I think Brunson is overrated based on what he will be paid and what the expectations will be Brogdon is injury prone and not twice the talent.

I thought the asking price for Murray was 3 first round picks. Didn’t they just get a couple first round picks for trading their picks during the draft? Trade the draft picks for Murray and use the cap space on another free agent. Then you can have Murray, Barret, and (would PHX do a sign and trade for ayton and take Randle?). You could still have cap space to sign or trade for a solid starter who can play 4.

Murray
Fournier
Barret
Cap space? Trade for 3 and D guy we can play the 4.
Ayton

[NoStatsGuy]

Wait.. so we send all this to the pistons and take nothing back? Not even some 2nd rounders picks?

My Lord what is this obsession with brunson???

[gswhoop]

Brunson just another Nate Robinson not worth all that but I hope he proves me wrong.

[Darthlukey]

Agree with the sentiments on this thread ... Knicks FO has never gone this aggressively for a star player let alone a role player.

Clearing up nearly 30+ m in cap space ( acquiring 3 heavily protected first round picks )
Trading away 11th pick and 6 ( yes six ) second round picks
Sending 6m cash

All for Jalen Brunson?!

They went hard for KDby trading zinger and bad deals to mavs, but I take your point

[ShazamDaShiznt]

There is nothing NBA can do to stop the Knicks from being a terrible franchise. No matter how horrible they play they still make money with all those fans in arena.

Next season will be the 50th anniversary of Knicks not winning a championship. A great way to celebrate that by overpaying yet another guy who's not really an all-star. But hey, maybe they'll make the play-in, it's the new lowered bar for trash organizations.

[AlbanyKnicksFan]

Brunson is family to Leon Rose. He also played VERY well in the playoffs. If he brings that level of play to NY then he will be well worth the cost.

Kemba Walker, Alec Burk, Nerlens Noel, 11th pick versus Jalen Brunson, 3 conditional 1st rd picks?

That's two oft-injured guys and a bench player versus a proven playoff performer, plus the additional picks AND he's paid less than the players going out.

Why are y'all trippin?

[Bolsolixo]

So the son of Mr. Rose is the agent of Jalen Brunson and the Knicks are going to massively overpay him? I really don't like this thing of hiring an agent to be your president and than this guy hire his client to be the head coach, his longtime friend to help running the front office, the father of a player you want to sign to be on coaching staff to than, finnally, sign the player who has the son of the president as an agent. And susprises me that those things are not questioned...

[AlbanyKnicksFan]

Agree with the sentiments on this thread ... Knicks FO has never gone this aggressively for a star player let alone a role player.

Clearing up nearly 30+ m in cap space ( acquiring 3 heavily protected first round picks )
Trading away 11th pick and 6 ( yes six ) second round picks
Sending 6m cash

All for Jalen Brunson?!

NYK used the cap space to re-ink Mitchell Robinson. This is about the team, not just one player.

[thebizkit]

Dumb question, but I thought you needed to match salaries for trades in the NBA? How where the Knicks able to just dump all that salary on the Pistons with no return?

[njknicks]

Agree with the sentiments on this thread ... Knicks FO has never gone this aggressively for a star player let alone a role player.

Clearing up nearly 30+ m in cap space ( acquiring 3 heavily protected first round picks )
Trading away 11th pick and 6 ( yes six ) second round picks
Sending 6m cash

All for Jalen Brunson?!

NYK used the cap space to re-ink Mitchell Robinson. This is about the team, not just one player.

Point noted, but to re-sign Robinson they don't necessarily need cap space ( depending on Bird rights, structure of contract ).

Long-term, the goal is to win a championship -- does clearing all assets dry for a quality role player ( Jalen Brunson ) do that? No.

You swing for the fences / clear cap space / maneuver assets for a top 15 player .... not for a player who may not even be in the top 50.

Really questionable usage of 3 years of accumulation of assets / cap space etc.

[Pr0nzingis]

Agree with the sentiments on this thread ... Knicks FO has never gone this aggressively for a star player let alone a role player.

Clearing up nearly 30+ m in cap space ( acquiring 3 heavily protected first round picks )
Trading away 11th pick and 6 ( yes six ) second round picks
Sending 6m cash

All for Jalen Brunson?!

NYK used the cap space to re-ink Mitchell Robinson. This is about the team, not just one player.

Point noted, but to re-sign Robinson they don't necessarily need cap space ( depending on Bird rights, structure of contract ).

Long-term, the goal is to win a championship -- does clearing all assets dry for a quality role player ( Jalen Brunson ) do that? No.

You swing for the fences / clear cap space / maneuver assets for a top 15 player .... not for a player who may not even be in the top 50.

Really questionable usage of 3 years of accumulation of assets / cap space etc.

Burks, Noel, Kemba = clearing all assets dry?

wtf is this guy smoking?

[njknicks]

NYK used the cap space to re-ink Mitchell Robinson. This is about the team, not just one player.

Point noted, but to re-sign Robinson they don't necessarily need cap space ( depending on Bird rights, structure of contract ).

Long-term, the goal is to win a championship -- does clearing all assets dry for a quality role player ( Jalen Brunson ) do that? No.

You swing for the fences / clear cap space / maneuver assets for a top 15 player .... not for a player who may not even be in the top 50.

Really questionable usage of 3 years of accumulation of assets / cap space etc.

Burks, Noel, Kemba = clearing all assets dry?

wtf is this guy smoking?

Assets as in #11 lotto pick, 6 second round picks & near expiring deals & cash

You leverage all of that to get a top 10 / 15 player ... not a rotational player.

Perhaps they are clearing way for Brunson + additional pieces not currently on the roster.

But if all this activity is just to acquire Brunson alone, then it just showcases the ineptitude of the Knicks FO.

[Pr0nzingis]

Point noted, but to re-sign Robinson they don't necessarily need cap space ( depending on Bird rights, structure of contract ).

Long-term, the goal is to win a championship -- does clearing all assets dry for a quality role player ( Jalen Brunson ) do that? No.

You swing for the fences / clear cap space / maneuver assets for a top 15 player .... not for a player who may not even be in the top 50.

Really questionable usage of 3 years of accumulation of assets / cap space etc.

Burks, Noel, Kemba = clearing all assets dry?

wtf is this guy smoking?

Assets as in #11 lotto pick, 6 second round picks & near expiring deals & cash

You leverage all of that to get a top 10 / 15 player ... not a rotational player.

So if i trade my house for 5 cars and then trade the 5 cars for a boat. The boat cost me 1 house and 5 cars? Are u dumb?


Let me do the math for u, with the 11th pick and 4 second rounders, Knicks received 3 1st rounders and dumped Kemba. Now they dumped Noel and Burcks for another 2 second rounders.

With the 11th pick and 6 second rounders the Knicks got 3 first round picks and 25M cap space. If Knicks sign Brunson, he problably becomes his best player.

How da **** trading garbage assets for better assets is "clearing all assets dry"?


Near expiring... wtf is that? Who da fack cares about near expiring?

[AlbanyKnicksFan]

Point noted, but to re-sign Robinson they don't necessarily need cap space ( depending on Bird rights, structure of contract ).

Long-term, the goal is to win a championship -- does clearing all assets dry for a quality role player ( Jalen Brunson ) do that? No.

You swing for the fences / clear cap space / maneuver assets for a top 15 player .... not for a player who may not even be in the top 50.

Really questionable usage of 3 years of accumulation of assets / cap space etc.

Burks, Noel, Kemba = clearing all assets dry?

wtf is this guy smoking?

Assets as in #11 lotto pick, 6 second round picks & near expiring deals & cash

You leverage all of that to get a top 10 / 15 player ... not a rotational player.

Perhaps they are clearing way for Brunson + additional pieces not currently on the roster.

But if all this activity is just to acquire Brunson alone, then it just showcases the ineptitude of the Knicks FO.

Bruh, do you even know who the player that was selected with the #11 pick is? I'm sorry, did the Knicks just pass up on Donovan Mitchell or something? Let's look at the Knicks lottery picks recently: Toppin, Barrett, Knox, Ntilikina, Porzingis, Hill, Gallinari. Now tell me, who is Ousmane Dieng?

And what about the three additional #1 picks Leon obtained? That's VALUABLE trading currency.