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Deandre Ayton, Suns Perceived Around NBA To Had 'Burned Bridge' Before Matched Offer Sheet
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2022 12:33 pm
by RealGM Wiretap
The Phoenix Suns retained Deandre Ayton when they matched his four-year, $133 million offer sheet with the Indiana Pacers. With the Suns not offering Ayton an extension before the season and any sort of deal in his restricted free agency, they signaled that they don't value him in a way we typically see for players of his caliber.
Many expected Ayton to depart the Suns this offseason in a sign-and-trade, but the Kevin Durant trade talks presumably made that scenario more difficult. Now, the Suns and Ayton will have to rehabilitate their working relationship.
"The weirdness of the Ayton situation, both the contract negotiations, the widespread perception, I'm talking widespread around the league that the bridge was pretty much burned between Ayton and the team," said Zach Lowe on his podcast.
"The comments that Monty Williams made after Game 7 when he pulled Ayton. There's clearly some mending of fences that has to happen there. Can it happen? Is this just a 'we're waiting it out until we can trade him' situation. That's another interesting human dynamic."
Via Zach Lowe/ESPN
Re: Deandre Ayton, Suns Perceived Around NBA To Had 'Burned Bridge' Before Matched Offer Sheet
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2022 12:59 pm
by SkynMan
Phoenix is definitely a toxic environment. This team will never win a chip
Re: Deandre Ayton, Suns Perceived Around NBA To Had 'Burned Bridge' Before Matched Offer Sheet
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2022 1:33 pm
by King4Day
SkynMan wrote:Phoenix is definitely a toxic environment. This team will never win a chip
The toxic environment was 2 wins from a championship 2 seasons ago and had the best record in franchise history last year.
The prior decade put a bad taste in everyone's mouth (rightfully so), but toxic it is currently not.
Re: Deandre Ayton, Suns Perceived Around NBA To Had 'Burned Bridge' Before Matched Offer Sheet
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2022 2:26 pm
by Phystic
SkynMan wrote:Phoenix is definitely a toxic environment. This team will never win a chip
What a ridiculous take.
How is it toxic to handle RFA the exact way that it's meant to be handled?
Re: Deandre Ayton, Suns Perceived Around NBA To Had 'Burned Bridge' Before Matched Offer Sheet
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2022 3:14 pm
by MitchB3
Phystic wrote:SkynMan wrote:Phoenix is definitely a toxic environment. This team will never win a chip
What a ridiculous take.
How is it toxic to handle RFA the exact way that it's meant to be handled?
How did they handle it, "exact way that it's meant to be handled?" ...? I'm still surprised that the Suns matched the deal; I also won't be surprised if end up trading him once he becomes eligible to be traded.
Re: Deandre Ayton, Suns Perceived Around NBA To Had 'Burned Bridge' Before Matched Offer Sheet
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2022 3:15 pm
by MitchB3
SkynMan wrote:Phoenix is definitely a toxic environment. This team will never win a chip
You're definitely correct, I'm surprised KD put them on his list of teams that he wanted to get traded too.
Re: Deandre Ayton, Suns Perceived Around NBA To Had 'Burned Bridge' Before Matched Offer Sheet
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2022 3:21 pm
by madmaxmedia
Most bridges are easily fixed with $133 million.
Re: Deandre Ayton, Suns Perceived Around NBA To Had 'Burned Bridge' Before Matched Offer Sheet
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2022 3:28 pm
by Revived
MitchB3 wrote:Phystic wrote:SkynMan wrote:Phoenix is definitely a toxic environment. This team will never win a chip
What a ridiculous take.
How is it toxic to handle RFA the exact way that it's meant to be handled?
How did they handle it, "exact way that it's meant to be handled?" ...? I'm still surprised that the Suns matched the deal; I also won't be surprised if end up trading him once he becomes eligible to be traded.
RFA means a player goes out and finds a contract that another team is willing to pay them. If the player’s current team wants to keep that player at the contract he signed the offer sheet for, then they match the contract.
That’s how RFA works. If Ayton or anyone is mad at that, they should be mad at the NBPA for agreeing to the RFA regulations in the CBA agreements.
Re: Deandre Ayton, Suns Perceived Around NBA To Had 'Burned Bridge' Before Matched Offer Sheet
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2022 3:30 pm
by alienpick
Revived wrote:MitchB3 wrote:Phystic wrote:
What a ridiculous take.
How is it toxic to handle RFA the exact way that it's meant to be handled?
How did they handle it, "exact way that it's meant to be handled?" ...? I'm still surprised that the Suns matched the deal; I also won't be surprised if end up trading him once he becomes eligible to be traded.
RFA means a player goes out and finds a contract that another team is willing to pay them. If the player’s current team wants to keep that player at the contract he signed the offer sheet for, then they match the contract.
That’s how RFA works. If Ayton or anyone is mad at that, they should be mad at the NBPA for agreeing to the RFA regulations in the CBA agreements.
EXACTLY. It's obvious the Suns didn't want to over pay him, and just pay him what he's worth. In an age where everyone thinks they are worth the max, it was a good plan.
Re: Deandre Ayton, Suns Perceived Around NBA To Had 'Burned Bridge' Before Matched Offer Sheet
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2022 3:38 pm
by Lalouie
duuuuh
Re: Deandre Ayton, Suns Perceived Around NBA To Had 'Burned Bridge' Before Matched Offer Sheet
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2022 4:30 pm
by IWishIWasHarden
It's a sign of the times.
You don't need to show any respect to people anymore. You can just tell them that's how capitalism works.
The Suns owner did nothing different to a typical person of today.
Browse the internet long enough and you'll see Jordan Peterson calling those who care about respect narcissists.
Re: Deandre Ayton, Suns Perceived Around NBA To Had 'Burned Bridge' Before Matched Offer Sheet
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2022 4:36 pm
by BK_2020
Time for RGM to get an editor.
Re: Deandre Ayton, Suns Perceived Around NBA To Had 'Burned Bridge' Before Matched Offer Sheet
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2022 4:43 pm
by Phystic
MitchB3 wrote:Phystic wrote:SkynMan wrote:Phoenix is definitely a toxic environment. This team will never win a chip
What a ridiculous take.
How is it toxic to handle RFA the exact way that it's meant to be handled?
How did they handle it, "exact way that it's meant to be handled?" ...? I'm still surprised that the Suns matched the deal; I also won't be surprised if end up trading him once he becomes eligible to be traded.
They offered him a contract last summer. He declined and chose RFA. Suns let the market dictate his price, he got an offer and they matched. Exact purpose of RFA to allow teams to have the market set the price
Re: Deandre Ayton, Suns Perceived Around NBA To Had 'Burned Bridge' Before Matched Offer Sheet
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2022 10:21 pm
by teco1497
Phystic wrote:MitchB3 wrote:Phystic wrote:
What a ridiculous take.
How is it toxic to handle RFA the exact way that it's meant to be handled?
How did they handle it, "exact way that it's meant to be handled?" ...? I'm still surprised that the Suns matched the deal; I also won't be surprised if end up trading him once he becomes eligible to be traded.
They offered him a contract last summer. He declined and chose RFA. Suns let the market dictate his price, he got an offer and they matched. Exact purpose of RFA to allow teams to have the market set the price
if players were machines you are right, how can you make him play %100 now he is upset to the team?
Re: Deandre Ayton, Suns Perceived Around NBA To Had 'Burned Bridge' Before Matched Offer Sheet
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2022 11:49 pm
by ElSapo
teco1497 wrote:Phystic wrote:MitchB3 wrote:
How did they handle it, "exact way that it's meant to be handled?" ...? I'm still surprised that the Suns matched the deal; I also won't be surprised if end up trading him once he becomes eligible to be traded.
They offered him a contract last summer. He declined and chose RFA. Suns let the market dictate his price, he got an offer and they matched. Exact purpose of RFA to allow teams to have the market set the price
if players were machines you are right, how can you make him play %100 now he is upset to the team?
You should probably read what Ayton had to say after signing his contract. He's pretty happy to be in Phoenix.
Re: Deandre Ayton, Suns Perceived Around NBA To Had 'Burned Bridge' Before Matched Offer Sheet
Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2022 12:37 am
by Charlie-Runkle
SkynMan wrote:Phoenix is definitely a toxic environment. This team will never win a chip
I used to wonder why everyone hated Dallas & the Cowboys in particular, but after their bball playoff push last year I never seen so many trolls in my life. I get it now.
Re: Deandre Ayton, Suns Perceived Around NBA To Had 'Burned Bridge' Before Matched Offer Sheet
Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2022 12:39 am
by Charlie-Runkle
MitchB3 wrote:SkynMan wrote:Phoenix is definitely a toxic environment. This team will never win a chip
You're definitely correct, I'm surprised KD put them on his list of teams that he wanted to get traded too.
Another Dallas troll, see what I mean
Re: Deandre Ayton, Suns Perceived Around NBA To Had 'Burned Bridge' Before Matched Offer Sheet
Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2022 5:46 am
by Phystic
teco1497 wrote:Phystic wrote:MitchB3 wrote:
How did they handle it, "exact way that it's meant to be handled?" ...? I'm still surprised that the Suns matched the deal; I also won't be surprised if end up trading him once he becomes eligible to be traded.
They offered him a contract last summer. He declined and chose RFA. Suns let the market dictate his price, he got an offer and they matched. Exact purpose of RFA to allow teams to have the market set the price
if players were machines you are right, how can you make him play %100 now he is upset to the team?
Just because YOU think he should be upset, doesn't mean he is.
Everything he and James Jones have said is the relationship is fine. They both understood it's business. Ayton got what the market said he was worth. How can he blame the Suns for that?
Re: Deandre Ayton, Suns Perceived Around NBA To Had 'Burned Bridge' Before Matched Offer Sheet
Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2022 9:45 pm
by MitchB3
Charlie-Runkle wrote:MitchB3 wrote:SkynMan wrote:Phoenix is definitely a toxic environment. This team will never win a chip
You're definitely correct, I'm surprised KD put them on his list of teams that he wanted to get traded too.
Another Dallas troll, see what I mean
Who said I'm a Dallas fan?