Pistons Acquire Bojan Bogdanovic From Jazz For Kelly Olynyk, Saben Lee

[RealGM Wiretap]

The Detroit Pistons have agreed to acquire Bojan Bogdanovic from the Utah Jazz for Kelly Olynyk and Saben Lee.

The Jazz have entered a full rebuild mode and were widely expected to trade Bogdanovic before the start of the season.

Via Shams Charania, James L. Edwards III/The Athletic

[jerok]

Don't understand the move for both teams
Pistons ain't doing anything this year. Why get Bojan.
Jazz didn't get any picks. I thought that was the point of this ultra tank.

[Fido]

I was confused at first, but in this trade the Jazz save $4,992,484 in salary for 2022-23 which increases their cushion under the luxury tax to $6,702,709. Remember that $9,774,884 trade exception the Jazz have from the Joe Ingles trade that expires 2/9/23? They may be setting themselves up to be able to use that exception to absorb a salary at the deadline for additional compensation.

[SelfishPlayer]

Don't understand the move for both teams
Pistons ain't doing anything this year. Why get Bojan.
Jazz didn't get any picks. I thought that was the point of this ultra tank.

The Pistons have won enough championships to understand the value of developing their young players with quality veterans instead of going the opposite direction of keeping quality vets off of the team so that the team can get another lottery pick. They understand how to build a team. They have the trophies to prove it.

[Fido]

Don't understand the move for both teams
Pistons ain't doing anything this year. Why get Bojan.
Jazz didn't get any picks. I thought that was the point of this ultra tank.

The Pistons have won enough championships to understand the value of developing their young players with quality veterans instead of going the opposite direction of keeping quality vets off of the team so that the team can get another lottery pick. They understand how to build a team. They have the trophies to prove it.

Is this the same Pistons team whose own draft pick appeared in the lottery at least 8 times in the last 14 years?

[SelfishPlayer]

Don't understand the move for both teams
Pistons ain't doing anything this year. Why get Bojan.
Jazz didn't get any picks. I thought that was the point of this ultra tank.

The Pistons have won enough championships to understand the value of developing their young players with quality veterans instead of going the opposite direction of keeping quality vets off of the team so that the team can get another lottery pick. They understand how to build a team. They have the trophies to prove it.

Is this the same Pistons team whose own draft pick appeared in the lottery at least 8 times in the last 14 years?

Exactly, now on to the next stage of team building.

[DAWill1128]

Probably try and get his value up and then ship for a pick(s).

[BigTex]

Unless there are some picks going to Utah, I don't understand this deal.

[pr0wler]

The Pistons have won enough championships to understand the value of developing their young players with quality veterans instead of going the opposite direction of keeping quality vets off of the team so that the team can get another lottery pick. They understand how to build a team. They have the trophies to prove it.

Is this the same Pistons team whose own draft pick appeared in the lottery at least 8 times in the last 14 years?

Exactly, now on to the next stage of team building.

Cope.

[writersblock]

Don't understand the move for both teams
Pistons ain't doing anything this year. Why get Bojan.
Jazz didn't get any picks. I thought that was the point of this ultra tank.

The Pistons have won enough championships to understand the value of developing their young players with quality veterans instead of going the opposite direction of keeping quality vets off of the team so that the team can get another lottery pick. They understand how to build a team. They have the trophies to prove it.

They have like what, 3 trophies? Most recent one was 18 years ago. When they won the other two, Jordan hadn't even started his reign of terror

[elmdawgg69]

Jazz cut salary, find their starting center in Olynyk, and get a young prospect to scope out on training camp. Good move for them… not sure what Detroit is doing here.

[donaldtrump_00]

Pistons are trying to compete for a playoffs spot. They need vets along with the young players. Cade, ivey, duren can be Allstars in a few years. No team wants to suffer. I'd be proud if I'm a Detroit fan.

[SelfishPlayer]

Don't understand the move for both teams
Pistons ain't doing anything this year. Why get Bojan.
Jazz didn't get any picks. I thought that was the point of this ultra tank.

The Pistons have won enough championships to understand the value of developing their young players with quality veterans instead of going the opposite direction of keeping quality vets off of the team so that the team can get another lottery pick. They understand how to build a team. They have the trophies to prove it.

They have like what, 3 trophies? Most recent one was 18 years ago. When they won the other two, Jordan hadn't even started his reign of terror

Three trophies would put their organization in a tie for sixth all time. Their organization beat GOATS: Jordan, Magic, Kareem, Bird, Kobe, Shaq. They know what they are doing...

[writersblock]

The Pistons have won enough championships to understand the value of developing their young players with quality veterans instead of going the opposite direction of keeping quality vets off of the team so that the team can get another lottery pick. They understand how to build a team. They have the trophies to prove it.

They have like what, 3 trophies? Most recent one was 18 years ago. When they won the other two, Jordan hadn't even started his reign of terror

Three trophies would put their organization in a tie for sixth all time. Their organization beat GOATS: Jordan, Magic, Kareem, Bird, Kobe, Shaq. They know what they are doing...

Right, and the last 18 years they knew what they were doing? lol. Nevermind that the GM has changed since 2004 and since the 1980s.
BTW, Kareem, Magic, and Bird beat them too.

[chilluminati]

Is this the same Pistons team whose own draft pick appeared in the lottery at least 8 times in the last 14 years?

Exactly, now on to the next stage of team building.

Cope.

The incompetent execs were replaced with a FR team that actually knows how to rebuild. Joe Dumars ended up as a delusional dragon chaser of that 04's team archetype, making constant bad decisions like Investing in Rodney Stuckey (trading Billups), the "Build the Wall" era, not developing Dinwiddie or Middleton, and trading Tobias for Blake.

The Troy Weaver era has been a hit so far, great luck with actual rebuilding.

[SelfishPlayer]

They have like what, 3 trophies? Most recent one was 18 years ago. When they won the other two, Jordan hadn't even started his reign of terror

Three trophies would put their organization in a tie for sixth all time. Their organization beat GOATS: Jordan, Magic, Kareem, Bird, Kobe, Shaq. They know what they are doing...

Right, and the last 18 years they knew what they were doing? lol. Nevermind that the GM has changed since 2004 and since the 1980s.
BTW, Kareem, Magic, and Bird beat them too.

18 years isn't much of a championship drought in professional sports. The correct order in the steps of team building are known by ME so certainly an organization tied for sixth place in championships won know this. I know the steps AFTER this as well. I love the internet because unless I drop them you have no idea and nothing to add.

[SelfishPlayer]

Exactly, now on to the next stage of team building.

Cope.

The incompetent execs were replaced with a FR team that actually knows how to rebuild. Joe Dumars ended up as a delusional dragon chaser of that 04's team archetype, making constant bad decisions like Investing in Rodney Stuckey (trading Billups), the "Build the Wall" era, not developing Dinwiddie or Middleton, and trading Tobias for Blake.

The Troy Weaver era has been a hit so far, great luck with actual rebuilding.

Dumars deserves more respect. It's not as if he failed with All Stars. You have Danny Ainge who traded for a superteam, won a championship, rebuilt developing All Stars, failed and got replaced. Dumars put together a championship team without a single HOF player. He never successfully rebuilt, but neither has Popovich.

[tigerae]

Cope.

The incompetent execs were replaced with a FR team that actually knows how to rebuild. Joe Dumars ended up as a delusional dragon chaser of that 04's team archetype, making constant bad decisions like Investing in Rodney Stuckey (trading Billups), the "Build the Wall" era, not developing Dinwiddie or Middleton, and trading Tobias for Blake.

The Troy Weaver era has been a hit so far, great luck with actual rebuilding.

Dumars deserves more respect. It's not as if he failed with All Stars. You have Danny Ainge who traded for a superteam, won a championship, rebuilt developing All Stars, failed and got replaced. Dumars put together a championship team without a single HOF player. He never successfully rebuilt, but neither has Popovich.

I agree with most of that but the Pop comments. Pop was able to be a consistent contender for years and was able to adjust his system as needed. From Robinson, to Duncan, to Parker and to Kawhi. Had they worked things out with Kawhi and had he stayed healthy, they would have been contenders for even longer.

As for this trade, I don't know how much sense this makes. Bogdanovic isn't a main guy and the Jazz could have received at least one pick for him elsewhere. Maybe makes the Pistons a little more fun to watch with a consistent scorer. He takes up about 20 million in cap space and I doubt he stays in Detroit for a discount, if at all, next summer.

[SelfishPlayer]

The incompetent execs were replaced with a FR team that actually knows how to rebuild. Joe Dumars ended up as a delusional dragon chaser of that 04's team archetype, making constant bad decisions like Investing in Rodney Stuckey (trading Billups), the "Build the Wall" era, not developing Dinwiddie or Middleton, and trading Tobias for Blake.

The Troy Weaver era has been a hit so far, great luck with actual rebuilding.

Dumars deserves more respect. It's not as if he failed with All Stars. You have Danny Ainge who traded for a superteam, won a championship, rebuilt developing All Stars, failed and got replaced. Dumars put together a championship team without a single HOF player. He never successfully rebuilt, but neither has Popovich.

I agree with most of that but the Pop comments. Pop was able to be a consistent contender for years and was able to adjust his system as needed. From Robinson, to Duncan, to Parker and to Kawhi. Had they worked things out with Kawhi and had he stayed healthy, they would have been contenders for even longer.

As for this trade, I don't know how much sense this makes. Bogdanovic isn't a main guy and the Jazz could have received at least one pick for him elsewhere. Maybe makes the Pistons a little more fun to watch with a consistent scorer. He takes up about 20 million in cap space and I doubt he stays in Detroit for a discount, if at all, next summer.

That's not the objective. They acquired a quality NBA veteran starter with playoff experience who compliments all of their developing players. This is the next phase of the rebuild. The Pistons have organizationally turned their backs on the lottery. They are shooting for the playoffs in addition to developing their core players with vets and not lessor young players that a team would hope turn into tradeable assets while looking forward to another lottery pick. Pop mismanaged Kawhi. It's his fault. Kawhi is a champion and Finals MVP without the Spurs. Pop has accomplished nothing without Tim Duncan.

[Revenged25]

Don't understand the move for both teams
Pistons ain't doing anything this year. Why get Bojan.
Jazz didn't get any picks. I thought that was the point of this ultra tank.

The Pistons have won enough championships to understand the value of developing their young players with quality veterans instead of going the opposite direction of keeping quality vets off of the team so that the team can get another lottery pick. They understand how to build a team. They have the trophies to prove it.

Is this the same Pistons team whose own draft pick appeared in the lottery at least 8 times in the last 14 years?

To be fair they haven't had nearly the talented young prospect previously. Cade alone is a better prospect/player than they've had in the past 14 years outside of a healthy Blake, but when you add in other guys like Ivey, Bey and to a lesser extent Bagley and Stewart, they've got a lot of good young pieces that having a veteran presence, especially a stretch 4 that can allow the other players to play more to their roles going forward, will help them develop. Bojan is there more to give a look at what a completed roster would look like to a lesser extent at little to no cost. Sort of like how the Cavs went and got Drummond to pair with Garland/Sexton to see how they would do with a true big man that could help protect the rim. It was looking promising until the Allen trade put Drummond into a mood but it showed that 2 smaller guards could work with a big defender behind them when everyone was healthy.

I think this is actually the perfect time for the Pistons to make a low cost/high reward type of move like this for the development of the team. For the Jazz though, I definitely expected them to get at least a 2nd out of this as well. Getting no picks just seems weird.