NBA Age Limit Rule Change Receiving Tepid Support From Key Stakeholders

Post #1 » by **RealGM Wiretap** » Wed Oct 12, 2022 7:13 pm

The NBA has widely been expected to change the one-and-done rule in their next collective bargaining agreement, but there appears to be little motivation from any of the key stakeholders on the matter outside of Adam Silver.

The union expects to receive major financial concessions from owners in exchange for this bargaining chip.

NBPA members say they see little benefit to allow a new class of teenagers to enter the league and take roster spots from veterans.

Front office executives have openly dreaded the possibility of returning to high school gyms to scout prospects.

College basketball's biggest stars are also able to make significant sums of money with NIL deals.

Silver is on the record as being adamant that changing the age limit is "the right thing to do," this past July, pointing to "societal changes" and saying he is "hopeful that's a change we make in this next collective bargaining cycle, which will happen in the next couple years."

If a rule change is agreed upon, it is not expected start earlier than the 2026 draft.

Via Jonathan Givony/ESPN

DoItALL9 · Post #2 » by **DoItALL9** » Wed Oct 12, 2022 7:49 pm

It should be done the same year they bring in expansion franchises.

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Rashidi · Post #3 » by **Rashidi** » Wed Oct 12, 2022 7:54 pm

Silver is thinking big picture. The G-League is ready for this influx of teenagers. Just look at the hype that was brought about by Scoot vs Wemby. Teams need to be smart and not flush first rounders on projects.

dubbmotta · Post #4 » by **dubbmotta** » Wed Oct 12, 2022 9:11 pm

Rashidi wrote:Silver is thinking big picture. The G-League is ready for this influx of teenagers. Just look at the hype that was brought about by Scoot vs Wemby. Teams need to be smart and not flush first rounders on projects.

I agree with you. But NBA needs to add a 3rd round when this rule changes, the G league would be lit with all the young players

alphatron10 · Post #5 » by **alphatron10** » Wed Oct 12, 2022 9:17 pm

I think this is a **** idea for the same reason that I think the forum post asking "Should teams give up on players sooner?" If we're truly wanting the most talent in the league, we should let these kids listen to people smarter than them instead of going straight to the NBA once they graduate high school. Take a year to go to college or play in the G-League against lesser pros. I don't want to see high picks being wasted on kids who are going to start their career playing in the G-League because they aren't ready.

Post #6 » by **Darthlukey** » Wed Oct 12, 2022 9:20 pm

So the owners dont want it and the NBPA dont want it. Ummmm, if its only Silver then simply remove it from the agenda?

lonzo_pelota · Post #7 » by **lonzo_pelota** » Wed Oct 12, 2022 11:30 pm

we've had more stromile swifts than kevin garnetts just saying

Spangerang · Post #8 » by **Spangerang** » Thu Oct 13, 2022 1:58 am

lonzo_pelota wrote:we've had more stromile swifts than kevin garnetts just saying

Stromile Swift played 2 years at LSU…..

MitchB3 · Post #9 » by **MitchB3** » Thu Oct 13, 2022 2:31 am

Changing the age back to 18 is really the right thing to do. I understand that all parties involved in keeping at 1 and done, but it's also ruining NCAA when most players only go for basketball and not the education. Any one that says we need to "support student-athletes" are full of ****.

lonzo_pelota · Post #10 » by **lonzo_pelota** » Thu Oct 13, 2022 5:14 am

Spangerang wrote:
lonzo_pelota wrote:we've had more stromile swifts than kevin garnetts just saying

Stromile Swift played 2 years at LSU…..

i was thinking of korleone young not stromile my mistake

smith2373 · Post #11 » by **smith2373** » Thu Oct 13, 2022 12:52 pm

lonzo_pelota wrote:we've had more stromile swifts than kevin garnetts just saying

We’ve also had more Kris Dunn’s than Damian Lillard’s as far as four year college players go.

Billl · Post #12 » by **Billl** » Thu Oct 13, 2022 4:12 pm

Of course there shouldn't be an age limit. Anyone saying this protects young players hasn't thought it through. Protect them from what? A multi-million dollar payday? The only ones the age limit protects are the owners. Teams get an extra year to see how the youngsters develop before deciding to us a pick on them or not. Are there going to be busts? Absolutely. However if you look at the top 10 kids in a high school class, they almost all make the league. And lets be honest, we've all got our favorites for the 2023 draft before they even play a game in college.

miamiheat319 · Post #13 » by **miamiheat319** » Thu Oct 13, 2022 5:20 pm

Darthlukey wrote:So the owners dont want it and the NBPA dont want it. Ummmm, if its only Silver then simply remove it from the agenda?

Exactly lol

Panama · Post #14 » by **Panama** » Wed Nov 23, 2022 5:12 am

In an NHL draft room, they simply mark off the next best player available and make a pick. It should be no different in professional basketball. Drafting players based off of perceived potential is not good for any league's bottom line. The NBA is a business, not a charity.

The model that fits best for the NBA i believe is what the NHL has in Major Junior Hockey. A basketball version of this would be a cure all for the NBA's development woes. Especially when you understand the concept of "overage".
A player can continue Major Junior play two years removed from high school and enter College as a 20 year old Freshman, prolonging his recruitability AND his overall scoutability and playing years. Players can declare for the "overage draft" at 18/19 next to the primary "amature" draft of 16 and 17 year olds, as well as a 2 round "foreign draft". It's a brilliant system, the best in sports.

And it's not like it's a daunting or costly endeavor. The NBA created the G League after all. They could simply make Major Junior a "second tier" of G League and have teams share facilities.

But just outright discarding any sort of development standard , age limit or otherwise, would just lead once again to draft busts and exasperate the leagues parity/tankig problems. Proponents of doing so only acknowledge the hand full of success stories and ignore the multitude of draft mistakes that organizations wasted millions of dollars on.

High school basketball is just not a sufficient measure of pro readiness. And lack of competitive balance and inadequate coaching and training are the primary reasons. Hence, Major Junior Basketball is a necessary substitute.

Yes, it will take the best Junior and Senior players out of the high school game ( mind you they would still attend school). But like I stated before, it is not the NBAs prerogative to care about the opinions of external parties when deciding what's best for its bottom line. The NHL certainly does not. Which is why the NHL doesn't face the same persistent issues that the NBA does.

The blatant lack of proactiveness and resolve umong NBA admin is deplorable quite frankly. If money is coming in, NBA execs don't see any reason to adjust or improve anything.

DoItALL9 · Post #15 » by **DoItALL9** » Thu Dec 1, 2022 6:02 pm

Panama wrote:In an NHL draft room, they simply mark off the next best player available and make a pick. It should be no different in professional basketball. Drafting players based off of perceived potential is not good for any league's bottom line. The NBA is a business, not a charity.

The model that fits best for the NBA i believe is what the NHL has in Major Junior Hockey. A basketball version of this would be a cure all for the NBA's development woes. Especially when you understand the concept of "overage".
A player can continue Major Junior play two years removed from high school and enter College as a 20 year old Freshman, prolonging his recruitability AND his overall scoutability and playing years. Players can declare for the "overage draft" at 18/19 next to the primary "amature" draft of 16 and 17 year olds, as well as a 2 round "foreign draft". It's a brilliant system, the best in sports.

And it's not like it's a daunting or costly endeavor. The NBA created the G League after all. They could simply make Major Junior a "second tier" of G League and have teams share facilities.

But just outright discarding any sort of development standard , age limit or otherwise, would just lead once again to draft busts and exasperate the leagues parity/tankig problems. Proponents of doing so only acknowledge the hand full of success stories and ignore the multitude of draft mistakes that organizations wasted millions of dollars on.

High school basketball is just not a sufficient measure of pro readiness. And lack of competitive balance and inadequate coaching and training are the primary reasons. Hence, Major Junior Basketball is a necessary substitute.

Yes, it will take the best Junior and Senior players out of the high school game ( mind you they would still attend school). But like I stated before, it is not the NBAs prerogative to care about the opinions of external parties when deciding what's best for its bottom line. The NHL certainly does not. Which is why the NHL doesn't face the same persistent issues that the NBA does.

The blatant lack of proactiveness and resolve umong NBA admin is deplorable quite frankly. If money is coming in, NBA execs don't see any reason to adjust or improve anything.

Overtime Elite is looking to be this to some degree

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meekrab · Post #16 » by **meekrab** » Thu Dec 1, 2022 6:40 pm

dubbmotta wrote:But NBA needs to add a 3rd round when this rule changes, the G league would be lit with all the young players

I mean, why? Most years there's already far less than 60 NBA ready players.