Knicks Offered Multiple First-Round Picks For OG Anunoby

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Knicks Offered Multiple First-Round Picks For OG Anunoby 

Post#1 » by RealGM Wiretap » Fri Jan 27, 2023 1:11 pm

In December, the New York Knicks reached out to the Toronto Raptors about forward OG Anunoby's availability. In those talks, New York reportedly offered multiple first-round picks to Toronto for Anunoby.


While nothing advanced beyond the initial discussions phase, that offer signaled the Knicks are looking to add to their roster. New York has been in a battle all season long to get up to the sixth seed in the Eastern Conference. That would allow the Knicks to avoid the Play-In Tournament.


New York has all of their own first-round picks moving forward. They also have protected first-rounders coming their way from the Dallas Mavericks, Detroit Pistons, Milwaukee Bucks and Washington Wizards. The Mavericks and Bucks picks both project to convey as soon as possible (this year for Dallas and in 2025 for Milwaukee), while the Pistons and Wizards picks have sliding protections on them through 2027 and 2026 respectively.


The Knicks can also easily put together matching salary for Anunoby in a trade. New York has expiring contracts and young players they can send to Toronto, along with draft picks.

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Post#2 » by HeartDonor » Fri Jan 27, 2023 1:32 pm

Dolan's gotta get on his knees and beg Masai. Raptors aren't interested in any potential players coming back to match salary, Knicks a bunch of bums beyond brunson & randle
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Post#3 » by Lockdown504090 » Fri Jan 27, 2023 1:39 pm

HeartDonor wrote:Dolan's gotta get on his knees and beg Masai. Raptors aren't interested in any potential players coming back to match salary, Knicks a bunch of bums beyond brunson & randle

so that leaves two teams they will trade him to? that doesnt make sense. They would probably take barett or robinson and picks for OG. I think people arent realizing how little leverage the raptors have. because of the team friendly deal OG on, the raptors cant offer him a market value extension until he becomes a UFA, this mean the team that trade for him essentially has to roll the dice that they can get him to sign a deal next offseason. This isnt like the brunson situation where he was willing to accept the smaller deal that was available. OG been knowing hes getting 25M per year. Raptors are just as motivated to move him before next season starts as teasms are willing to trade for him.
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Post#4 » by NeoDragonKnight » Fri Jan 27, 2023 1:42 pm

The term "First round picks" is so generic and over sensationalized. They offered 3 lottery protected picks, which are currently late round firsts, that turn into 2md-rounders in 2025 from my understanding. Taking the worst case and they are 3 2nd rounders you are basically giving him away for nothing.
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Post#5 » by kacey ring » Fri Jan 27, 2023 1:48 pm

NeoDragonKnight wrote:The term "First round picks" is so generic and over sensationalized. They offered 3 lottery protected picks, which are currently late round firsts, that turn into 2md-rounders in 2025. Taking the worst case and they are 3 2nd rounders you are basically giving him away for nothing.


Exactly. I’ve felt this way about their FRPs since they got them. Everyone acts like the Knicks have a treasure chest full of the finest FRPs around.
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Post#6 » by MegaK » Fri Jan 27, 2023 2:28 pm

Yo he not that good bro !
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Post#7 » by mtcan » Fri Jan 27, 2023 2:38 pm

MegaK wrote:Yo he not that good bro !

I guess that is why you are on RealGM instead of being an actual GM...because a lot of teams seem to want him.
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Post#8 » by GoSixersBro » Fri Jan 27, 2023 2:49 pm

Of course they did.
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Post#9 » by SkynMan » Fri Jan 27, 2023 3:15 pm

Lockdown504090 wrote:
HeartDonor wrote:Dolan's gotta get on his knees and beg Masai. Raptors aren't interested in any potential players coming back to match salary, Knicks a bunch of bums beyond brunson & randle

so that leaves two teams they will trade him to? that doesnt make sense. They would probably take barett or robinson and picks for OG. I think people arent realizing how little leverage the raptors have. because of the team friendly deal OG on, the raptors cant offer him a market value extension until he becomes a UFA, this mean the team that trade for him essentially has to roll the dice that they can get him to sign a deal next offseason. This isnt like the brunson situation where he was willing to accept the smaller deal that was available. OG been knowing hes getting 25M per year. Raptors are just as motivated to move him before next season starts as teasms are willing to trade for him.

Knicks would be stupid to give up Rj Barett in an OG trade. And Toronto isn't scared about him leaving because of his contract FVV either. That's why the organization got them both Gillette razor commercial deals in the summer for good faith
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Post#10 » by WillyJakkz » Fri Jan 27, 2023 3:25 pm

SkynMan wrote:
Lockdown504090 wrote:
HeartDonor wrote:Dolan's gotta get on his knees and beg Masai. Raptors aren't interested in any potential players coming back to match salary, Knicks a bunch of bums beyond brunson & randle

so that leaves two teams they will trade him to? that doesnt make sense. They would probably take barett or robinson and picks for OG. I think people arent realizing how little leverage the raptors have. because of the team friendly deal OG on, the raptors cant offer him a market value extension until he becomes a UFA, this mean the team that trade for him essentially has to roll the dice that they can get him to sign a deal next offseason. This isnt like the brunson situation where he was willing to accept the smaller deal that was available. OG been knowing hes getting 25M per year. Raptors are just as motivated to move him before next season starts as teasms are willing to trade for him.

Knicks would be stupid to give up Rj Barett in an OG trade. And Toronto isn't scared about him leaving because of his contract FVV either. That's why the organization got them both Gillette razor commercial deals in the summer for good faith


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Post#11 » by shrink » Fri Jan 27, 2023 3:40 pm

I guess “two” can be considered “multiple.” Maybe three if those are picks like the heavily protected ones, or ones from great teams, that aren’t so valuable.

No doubt that OG is a very good player, but in the end, he is just a high end role player. Maybe one of the best role players in the league right now, with very good defense, a position of need, and offense that won’t kill you. Being a great role player is nice .. Kevin Love has done well. But fans don’t buy tickets to see role players, or want to buy their merchandise. OG is never going to be a superstar, and his trade value isn’t going to bring back superstar returns.

OG is the type of player that helps a superstar on an elite team. The Knicks aren’t that team, so my guess is that “multiple picks” was a value play, and this got leaked to tell Knick fans, “See! We’re doing something!”
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Post#12 » by basketballwacko2 » Fri Jan 27, 2023 3:41 pm

NeoDragonKnight wrote:The term "First round picks" is so generic and over sensationalized. They offered 3 lottery protected picks, which are currently late round firsts, that turn into 2md-rounders in 2025 from my understanding. Taking the worst case and they are 3 2nd rounders you are basically giving him away for nothing.


The Detroit #1 and the Washington #1 are unlikely to convey anytime soon, if ever, Washington pick becomes 2 2nds if not conveyed by 2026 and the Pistons pick becomes one 2nd if not conveyed by 2027.
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Post#13 » by Douglas McClure » Fri Jan 27, 2023 3:53 pm

HeartDonor wrote:Dolan's gotta get on his knees and beg Masai. Raptors aren't interested in any potential players coming back to match salary, Knicks a bunch of bums beyond brunson & randle

Actually it is the other way around. The Knicks gotta be super stupid dishing out multiple first round picks for him. The guy is just a 3 and D, can't create his own shots. Anunobi is overated as hell.
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Post#14 » by Laimbeer » Fri Jan 27, 2023 4:09 pm

The Knicks are a good, deep team. I don't think OG moves the needle enough to justify a fistful of FRPs.
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Post#15 » by balla4lyf23 » Fri Jan 27, 2023 4:32 pm

Douglas McClure wrote:
HeartDonor wrote:Dolan's gotta get on his knees and beg Masai. Raptors aren't interested in any potential players coming back to match salary, Knicks a bunch of bums beyond brunson & randle

Actually it is the other way around. The Knicks gotta be super stupid dishing out multiple first round picks for him. The guy is just a 3 and D, can't create his own shots. Anunobi is overated as hell.

lol you're a very casual fan eh. OG is no superstar, but theres a reason every team out there has him on their radar. overrated is not the word id use. your opinion here seems to be overrated
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Post#16 » by TimeisIllmatic » Fri Jan 27, 2023 5:16 pm

Trying to package those picks for OG isn't the way to go if you're the Knicks. They should just focus on drafting well.
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Post#17 » by Rashidi » Fri Jan 27, 2023 5:26 pm

Douglas McClure wrote:Actually it is the other way around. The Knicks gotta be super stupid dishing out multiple first round picks for him. The guy is just a 3 and D, can't create his own shots. Anunobi is overated as hell.


O.G. Anunoby On-Ball (2022)
3.0 Post Touches per 36 (1st on Raptors)
2.1 Isolation Plays per 36 (2nd on Raptors)
1.3 PNR Plays per 36 (Standard for a SF)

On-Ball Poss per 36 (1000+ mins)
10.4 Siakam
8.8 VanVleet
6.4 Anunoby - but he can't create his own shot? lol
5.6 Trent
4.4 Barnes
1.8 Achiuwa
0.4 Birch
0.2 Boucher
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Post#18 » by Rashidi » Fri Jan 27, 2023 5:27 pm

TimeisIllmatic wrote:Trying to package those picks for OG isn't the way to go if you're the Knicks. They should just focus on drafting well.


Yeah because Tom Thibodeau is so known for playing rookies
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Post#19 » by TimeisIllmatic » Fri Jan 27, 2023 5:29 pm

Rashidi wrote:
TimeisIllmatic wrote:Trying to package those picks for OG isn't the way to go if you're the Knicks. They should just focus on drafting well.


Yeah because Tom Thibodeau is so known for playing rookies


That's the GM/owner's problem then.
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Post#20 » by HotelVitale » Fri Jan 27, 2023 5:58 pm

TimeisIllmatic wrote:Trying to package those picks for OG isn't the way to go if you're the Knicks. They should just focus on drafting well.

They can commit to drafting and developing as a key component of team building but no one can just say ‘okay, we’re going to draft well the next 3 years.’ There’s a certain amount of advantage that effort and time and energy in draft preparation will get you but most teams are already competent at the draft and draft success mostly comes down to unpredictable stuff about translation and development. Which guy will hit 40% from 3 rather than 34% while also being able to make cross court passes that aren’t a few inches too high or low every time, which guy can make the right read on close outs and train his body to efficiently hit runners and floaters in tiny spaces with little wind up, etc. No one knows who can do that before they’re out there doing it.

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