Nets Feel No Pressure To Move Quickly On Kyie Irving Extension

[RealGM Wiretap]

Kyrie Irving has made it known that he hopes to get an extension done with the Brooklyn Nets. The Nets would presumably like to keep Irving, but reportedly feel no pressure to get anything done in a swift manner.

There have been no significant extension discussions between Irving and Brooklyn. Both sides have until June 30 to agree to extend Irving's deal. If no agreement is reached, Irving will become an unrestricted free agent on July 1.

If Irving chose to leave the Nets in free agency, it's likely that would have to be via a sign-and-trade. Most of the teams in position to sign Irving outright in free agency aren't a fit at this time. That means getting to a non-cap space team would have to involve Brooklyn agreeing to a deal.

Via Marc Stein/Substack

[gigantes]

Welp, the Nets offered him a fair, incentivised extension early this past summer, and he turned it down to opt in. Fine. Your decision, Kyrie.

Then, when it should have been crystal clear to him that this was an important year to rehabilitate his trade and contract value, he went ahead and went nuts yet again, early in the season, missing games and further tanking his value to the point that he became a completely negative trading contract to the rest of the league outside possibly LAL at the most optimistic.

Since then he's played well, hasn't created any more controversies, and that's to his credit. But TBF, that's also why he's paid like a superstar! At this point I think it's safe to say he still has a lot to prove to both BRK and the rest of the league as to whether he can make it all the way through to the playoffs and be a useful contributor there, unlike in previous seasons.

My point is-- the Nets holding off til the offseason to reevaluate him makes huge amounts of sense to me, other than the possibility of him walking and the Nets losing his stretched cap value, in which case they might be forced to resign him to *something* as a disaster-aversion move. Because their hands would be kind of tied at that point, assuming KD didn't want out again.

Personally as a BRK fan, if we can get near-equal value at any point for Kyrie, I'd take it. The guy's a walking disaster waiting to happen, and the days of meekly appeasing Kevin Durant are just done IMO.

[TheNetsFan]

I see something like 2/$80mil or 3 for $110mil being offered.

[Salty1]

Kyrie is done fooling the leauge. He always plays so well and creates no distractions in his contract years. Everyone knows if they pay you, you're just going to fk them over like you have everyone else.

[Eyeamok]

Welp, the Nets offered him a fair, incentivised extension early this past summer, and he turned it down to opt in. Fine. Your decision, Kyrie.

Then, when it should have been crystal clear to him that this was an important year to rehabilitate his trade and contract value, he went ahead and went nuts yet again, early in the season, missing games and further tanking his value to the point that he became a completely negative trading contract to the rest of the league outside possibly LAL at the most optimistic.

Since then he's played well, hasn't created any more controversies, and that's to his credit. But TBF, that's also why he's paid like a superstar! At this point I think it's safe to say he still has a lot to prove to both BRK and the rest of the league as to whether he can make it all the way through to the playoffs and be a useful contributor there, unlike in previous seasons.

My point is-- the Nets holding off til the offseason to reevaluate him makes huge amounts of sense to me, other than the possibility of him walking and the Nets losing his stretched cap value, in which case they might be forced to resign him to *something* as a disaster-aversion move. Because their hands would be kind of tied at that point, assuming KD didn't want out again.

Personally as a BRK fan, if we can get near-equal value at any point for Kyrie, I'd take it. The guy's a walking disaster waiting to happen, and the days of meekly appeasing Kevin Durant are just done IMO.

What would you consider near equal value? Because Kyrie is playing extremely well as of late. If the Nets don't want him someone else will.

[haste10176]

Welp, the Nets offered him a fair, incentivised extension early this past summer, and he turned it down to opt in. Fine. Your decision, Kyrie.

Then, when it should have been crystal clear to him that this was an important year to rehabilitate his trade and contract value, he went ahead and went nuts yet again, early in the season, missing games and further tanking his value to the point that he became a completely negative trading contract to the rest of the league outside possibly LAL at the most optimistic.

Since then he's played well, hasn't created any more controversies, and that's to his credit. But TBF, that's also why he's paid like a superstar! At this point I think it's safe to say he still has a lot to prove to both BRK and the rest of the league as to whether he can make it all the way through to the playoffs and be a useful contributor there, unlike in previous seasons.

My point is-- the Nets holding off til the offseason to reevaluate him makes huge amounts of sense to me, other than the possibility of him walking and the Nets losing his stretched cap value, in which case they might be forced to resign him to *something* as a disaster-aversion move. Because their hands would be kind of tied at that point, assuming KD didn't want out again.

Personally as a BRK fan, if we can get near-equal value at any point for Kyrie, I'd take it. The guy's a walking disaster waiting to happen, and the days of meekly appeasing Kevin Durant are just done IMO.

Nets 100% have to wait till the offseason and see how the playoff run goes and if KD even wants to stay to start with and giving Kyrie a long term contract with no stipulations is a no go..

[knicks94]

The Nets need to lock him up as soon as possible. Look at how they are playing championship level basketball with Kyrie as the main leader.

[gigantes]

Welp, the Nets offered him a fair, incentivised extension early this past summer, and he turned it down to opt in. Fine. Your decision, Kyrie.

Then, when it should have been crystal clear to him that this was an important year to rehabilitate his trade and contract value, he went ahead and went nuts yet again, early in the season, missing games and further tanking his value to the point that he became a completely negative trading contract to the rest of the league outside possibly LAL at the most optimistic.

Since then he's played well, hasn't created any more controversies, and that's to his credit. But TBF, that's also why he's paid like a superstar! At this point I think it's safe to say he still has a lot to prove to both BRK and the rest of the league as to whether he can make it all the way through to the playoffs and be a useful contributor there, unlike in previous seasons.

My point is-- the Nets holding off til the offseason to reevaluate him makes huge amounts of sense to me, other than the possibility of him walking and the Nets losing his stretched cap value, in which case they might be forced to resign him to *something* as a disaster-aversion move. Because their hands would be kind of tied at that point, assuming KD didn't want out again.

Personally as a BRK fan, if we can get near-equal value at any point for Kyrie, I'd take it. The guy's a walking disaster waiting to happen, and the days of meekly appeasing Kevin Durant are just done IMO.

What would you consider near equal value? Because Kyrie is playing extremely well as of late. If the Nets don't want him someone else will.

Assuming you read what I had to say and know nothing about what an absolute PITA Kyrie has been to the Nets, I guess your comment weirdly makes sense.

Nets 100% have to wait till the offseason and see how the playoff run goes and if KD even wants to stay to start with and giving Kyrie a long term contract with no stipulations is a no go..

Well, that's what I'm saying!

Haste10176 said it way better than I did, Eyeamok.

Cheers mateys, I'm out.

[ChumboChappati]

Welp, the Nets offered him a fair, incentivised extension early this past summer, and he turned it down to opt in. Fine. Your decision, Kyrie.

Then, when it should have been crystal clear to him that this was an important year to rehabilitate his trade and contract value, he went ahead and went nuts yet again, early in the season, missing games and further tanking his value to the point that he became a completely negative trading contract to the rest of the league outside possibly LAL at the most optimistic.

Since then he's played well, hasn't created any more controversies, and that's to his credit. But TBF, that's also why he's paid like a superstar! At this point I think it's safe to say he still has a lot to prove to both BRK and the rest of the league as to whether he can make it all the way through to the playoffs and be a useful contributor there, unlike in previous seasons.

My point is-- the Nets holding off til the offseason to reevaluate him makes huge amounts of sense to me, other than the possibility of him walking and the Nets losing his stretched cap value, in which case they might be forced to resign him to *something* as a disaster-aversion move. Because their hands would be kind of tied at that point, assuming KD didn't want out again.

Personally as a BRK fan, if we can get near-equal value at any point for Kyrie, I'd take it. The guy's a walking disaster waiting to happen, and the days of meekly appeasing Kevin Durant are just done IMO.

Are you a fan of Nets? Looks like an enemy

[Pickled Prunes]

Welp, the Nets offered him a fair, incentivised extension early this past summer, and he turned it down to opt in. Fine. Your decision, Kyrie.

Then, when it should have been crystal clear to him that this was an important year to rehabilitate his trade and contract value, he went ahead and went nuts yet again, early in the season, missing games and further tanking his value to the point that he became a completely negative trading contract to the rest of the league outside possibly LAL at the most optimistic.

Since then he's played well, hasn't created any more controversies, and that's to his credit. But TBF, that's also why he's paid like a superstar! At this point I think it's safe to say he still has a lot to prove to both BRK and the rest of the league as to whether he can make it all the way through to the playoffs and be a useful contributor there, unlike in previous seasons.

My point is-- the Nets holding off til the offseason to reevaluate him makes huge amounts of sense to me, other than the possibility of him walking and the Nets losing his stretched cap value, in which case they might be forced to resign him to *something* as a disaster-aversion move. Because their hands would be kind of tied at that point, assuming KD didn't want out again.

Personally as a BRK fan, if we can get near-equal value at any point for Kyrie, I'd take it. The guy's a walking disaster waiting to happen, and the days of meekly appeasing Kevin Durant are just done IMO.

What would you consider near equal value? Because Kyrie is playing extremely well as of late. If the Nets don't want him someone else will.

Assuming you read what I had to say and know nothing about what an absolute PITA Kyrie has been to the Nets, I guess your comment weirdly makes sense.

Nets 100% have to wait till the offseason and see how the playoff run goes and if KD even wants to stay to start with and giving Kyrie a long term contract with no stipulations is a no go..

Well, that's what I'm saying!

Haste10176 said it way better than I did, Eyeamok.

Cheers mateys, I'm out.

The best chance for BRK to get any value out of Kyrie would be in an S&T over the summer. Who needs him right now that would be willing to give anything up for him? He's a volatile personality on an expiring contract.

[Temuhjan]

The best chance for BRK to get any value out of Kyrie would be in an S&T over the summer. Who needs him right now that would be willing to give anything up for him? He's a volatile personality on an expiring contract.

Agreed. Nets are done with him. I wonder where's he heading this Summer.

[Temuhjan]

I see something like 2/$80mil or 3 for $110mil being offered.

Kyrie currently averages 5.3 assists per game. That puts him outside of Top 30 in the L. His shooting, while still good, is just not the same level as before.

I doubt if any team will want to pay him more than $40m/2 years, let alone $80m. And the longer he drags it out this summer, the lower the offer will get as teams begin to lock down their roster.

[Pickled Prunes]

I see something like 2/$80mil or 3 for $110mil being offered.

Kyrie currently averages 5.3 assists per game. That puts him outside of Top 30 in the L. His shooting, while still good, is just not the same level as before.

I doubt if any team will want to pay him more than $40m/2 years, let alone $80m. And the longer he drags it out this summer, the lower the offer will get as teams begin to lock down their roster.

Add to that the fact that he is a disaster as a teammate. No GM or coach want's this guy around their younger players and I get the distinct impression that most veterans don't want to be around him either. I can see LAL giving him some of their cap out of desperation to cash in on Lebron's twilight, but the most likely scenario for him to land in LAL is a S&T for Rui. Is BRK interested in Rui, and if so, at what number?

The other scenario where Kyrie might get a big annual salary is a 1+1 with a team option on the 2nd year. Whatever happens, teams are going to want control.

[Lalouie]

That's because Kyrie has no options other than the Nets. They have him over a barrel. And besides, they're sick and tired of his antics so they really couldn't care less and Kevin Durant wants out anyway

That's a triple Whammy over Kyrie

[TheNetsFan]

That's because Kyrie has no options other than the Nets. They have him over a barrel. And besides, they're sick and tired of his antics so they really couldn't care less and Kevin Durant wants out anyway

That's a triple Whammy over Kyrie

Houston is the only team with cap space that I think could make a play. They have the money, the positional need (barring landing the second pick in the draft), and the added incentive (make the Nets worse and their owed picks better).

[Temuhjan]

Houston is the only team with cap space that I think could make a play. They have the money, the positional need (barring landing the second pick in the draft), and the added incentive (make the Nets worse and their owed picks better).

I doubt Houston will make a play. They have a young roster and they are not competing. I see teams like Miami and the Clippers mulling over a sign and trade for Kyrie.

In South Beach, Kyle Lowry is 36 and is moving to the bench. This leaves a hole at PG. In Tinseltown, the Clippers need an upgrade over Reggie Jackson.

[HardenGoat]

As Dad put it. Don’t marry crazy

[TheNetsFan]

Houston is the only team with cap space that I think could make a play. They have the money, the positional need (barring landing the second pick in the draft), and the added incentive (make the Nets worse and their owed picks better).

I doubt Houston will make a play. They have a young roster and they are not competing. I see teams like Miami and the Clippers mulling over a sign and trade for Kyrie.

In South Beach, Kyle Lowry is 36 and is moving to the bench. This leaves a hole at PG. In Tinseltown, the Clippers need an upgrade over Reggie Jackson.

& what would either offer that would get the Nets to even consider cooperating in a sign and trade?

[monopoman]

That's because Kyrie has no options other than the Nets. They have him over a barrel. And besides, they're sick and tired of his antics so they really couldn't care less and Kevin Durant wants out anyway

That's a triple Whammy over Kyrie

I have a feeling the main sticking point will be number of years, the Nets if they do offer him something will be like 2 years with a 3rd year as a team option. Kyrie will demand max years, and they won't budge so we will see what happens in that case.

Kyrie might be seeking a deal that might be less money per year if some team can offer him a max year deal.

[NoStatsGuy]

Welp, the Nets offered him a fair, incentivised extension early this past summer, and he turned it down to opt in. Fine. Your decision, Kyrie.

Then, when it should have been crystal clear to him that this was an important year to rehabilitate his trade and contract value, he went ahead and went nuts yet again, early in the season, missing games and further tanking his value to the point that he became a completely negative trading contract to the rest of the league outside possibly LAL at the most optimistic.

Since then he's played well, hasn't created any more controversies, and that's to his credit. But TBF, that's also why he's paid like a superstar! At this point I think it's safe to say he still has a lot to prove to both BRK and the rest of the league as to whether he can make it all the way through to the playoffs and be a useful contributor there, unlike in previous seasons.

My point is-- the Nets holding off til the offseason to reevaluate him makes huge amounts of sense to me, other than the possibility of him walking and the Nets losing his stretched cap value, in which case they might be forced to resign him to *something* as a disaster-aversion move. Because their hands would be kind of tied at that point, assuming KD didn't want out again.

Personally as a BRK fan, if we can get near-equal value at any point for Kyrie, I'd take it. The guy's a walking disaster waiting to happen, and the days of meekly appeasing Kevin Durant are just done IMO.

What would you consider near equal value? Because Kyrie is playing extremely well as of late. If the Nets don't want him someone else will.

the thing is, someone else will but kyrie doesnt want those teams. as stated in the report, there are no fits in the open market.


kyrie is playing on an all nba level for sure and we all know what kyrie can do on the court. and i appreciate him for that. but if i'd be a GM i would not take the risk of paying kyrie a 5 year super max. because history has shown, kyrie is not locked in at all times. and this has nothing to do with "shut up and dribble". hes just a headcase