Kings Never Offered Tyrese Haliburton To Sixers For Ben Simmons

Post #1 » by **RealGM Wiretap** » Mon Jul 24, 2023 5:59 pm

The Sacramento Kings never offered Tyrese Haliburton as part of a package to the Philadelphia 76ers for Ben Simmons, sources told Marc Stein.

The Kings were rumored to be interested in trading for Simmons during the 21-22 season and eventually traded Haliburton for Domantas Sabonis.

The Kings turned into a playoff team last season with Sabonis having an All-NBA season, while Haliburton emerged as an All-Star with the Indiana Pacers and would have likely been a better long-term fit for the Sixers than James Harden.

Haliburton signed a five-year designated max extension with the Pacers that could be worth up to $260 million.

Via Marc Stein/Substack

nonameguy · Post #2 » by **nonameguy** » Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:33 pm

Breaking news!

Tom White · Post #3 » by **Tom White** » Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:48 pm

Kings were smart. Simmons is a waste.

BeesKneesCs · Post #4 » by **BeesKneesCs** » Mon Jul 24, 2023 8:09 pm

This is just Stein stanning for Dork Elvis. Morey doesn't want to look bad so he is telling anyone who will listen that Haliburton wasn't on the table. Sacramento did end up trading Haliburton and Lowe has said on many a podcast that he was on the table.

HotelVitale · Post #5 » by **HotelVitale** » Mon Jul 24, 2023 8:34 pm

BeesKneesCs wrote:This is just Stein stanning for Dork Elvis. Morey doesn't want to look bad so he is telling anyone who will listen that Haliburton wasn't on the table. Sacramento did end up trading Haliburton and Lowe has said on many a podcast that he was on the table.

Tough call here, I do think Haliburton was on the table and they did end up trading for a passing PF, and I also don't think Stein's sources are definitely going to be honest about that. But all these trades happened after Simmons' no-showed against ATL and then quit on his team, so I'm not sure how much that would've turned them off. Plus Simmons did play PG every year for the Sixers and probably wouldn't have wanted to give that up, would've been an issue with Fox (which is who they were making the trade for).

Pickled Prunes · Post #6 » by **Pickled Prunes** » Mon Jul 24, 2023 8:53 pm

HotelVitale wrote:
BeesKneesCs wrote:This is just Stein stanning for Dork Elvis. Morey doesn't want to look bad so he is telling anyone who will listen that Haliburton wasn't on the table. Sacramento did end up trading Haliburton and Lowe has said on many a podcast that he was on the table.

Tough call here, I do think Haliburton was on the table and they did end up trading for a passing PF, and I also don't think Stein's sources are definitely going to be honest about that. But all these trades happened after Simmons' no-showed against ATL and then quit on his team, so I'm not sure how much that would've turned them off. Plus Simmons did play PG every year for the Sixers and probably wouldn't have wanted to give that up, would've been an issue with Fox (which is who they were making the trade for).

Easy math. If Haliburton was on the table, he would be a Sixer right now.

the_process · Post #7 » by **the_process** » Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:04 pm

Morey must be in real trouble with ownership for f****** up the Harden situation.

He has Marc Stein doing his dirty work :lol:

This is classic Ainge-style revisionist history. Of course there was a Simmons-Haliburton deal to be had.

Morey just wanted Fox and picks on top of it to abandon his pursuit of his white whale Harden. Which was a major screw up. And he knows it. And considering the length Morey is going to to get it out there that "it's not his fault", he's starting to get heat for it.

basketballwacko2 · Post #8 » by **basketballwacko2** » Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:08 pm

BeesKneesCs wrote:This is just Stein stanning for Dork Elvis. Morey doesn't want to look bad so he is telling anyone who will listen that Haliburton wasn't on the table. Sacramento did end up trading Haliburton and Lowe has said on many a podcast that he was on the table.

If the Kings had considered trading Haliburton for Simmons there is no question that they did the right thing by not doing that. Sabonis is a great player with 400X over Simmons.

HardenGoat · Post #9 » by **HardenGoat** » Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:17 pm

Kings dodged a disaster that’s for sure

chipchipperson · Post #10 » by **chipchipperson** » Tue Jul 25, 2023 1:16 am

One thing to note is that the harden trade was still a huge win for morey even with all of this drama. Simmons is the worst contract in the league and there's no one even remotely close. Getting off that was a win in itself, not getting a young 20's centerpiece in the process doesnt constitute a loss.

And speaking of revisionist history, no one would've taken haliburton for simmons straight up over harden for simmons, curry and the picks when the trade happened. In hindsight we know what we all know but let's not kid ourselves. As far as anyone was concerned at the time harden still had a few years left on his prime and had our collective sympathy for having to play for that goofy ass nets squad and haliburton was still relatively unproven putting up solid stats on a garbage team.

shrink · Post #11 » by **shrink** » Tue Jul 25, 2023 1:51 am

It’s amazing how front offices always make the right call, on all leaks to the press a decision they made two years ago!

M2J · Post #12 » by **M2J** » Tue Jul 25, 2023 2:57 am

This is such a lie. I not only think Haliburton was on the market for Simmons, I think Fox was as well.

Morey is lying

HarthorneWingo · Post #13 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:37 am

WTF? Are we really talking about what teams did NOT offer its player to other teams now? :roll:

This is some postumous Mitch Hedberg comedy material right here.

I wanted the Knicks to draft him ... but NOOOOOOOOOOO ...

NoStatsGuy · Post #14 » by **NoStatsGuy** » Tue Jul 25, 2023 9:56 am

sooo what about harden and morey? are they not besties anymore? LOL

Mak · Post #15 » by **Mak** » Tue Jul 25, 2023 11:44 am

Good job Stein. Morey appreciates the cover , in exchange for some juicy rumors in the future.

tecumseh18 · Post #16 » by **tecumseh18** » Tue Jul 25, 2023 2:11 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:WTF? Are we really talking about what teams did NOT offer its player to other teams now?

This is some postumous Mitch Hedberg comedy material right here.

I wanted the Knicks to draft him ... but NOOOOOOOOOOO ...

I used to pay attention to NBA gossip in summer.

I still do, but I used to, too.

BeesKneesCs · Post #17 » by **BeesKneesCs** » Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:14 pm

Mak wrote:Good job Stein. Morey appreciates the cover , in exchange for some juicy rumors in the future.

Let's see who get the scoop Philly's next move. Will be interesting to see.

Axl Rose · Post #18 » by **Axl Rose** » Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:42 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:WTF? Are we really talking about what teams did NOT offer its player to other teams now?

Not just that but it's what they didn't offer 2 years ago.

Post #19 » by **boomershadow** » Tue Jul 25, 2023 7:16 pm

Realistically, the proposed trade had to be a package centered around Fox for Simmons. Haliburton for Simmons wouldn't have made any sense fit wise, salary, etc.

And that was before Fox had a really good bounce back year during Light the Beam and before it was for sure known that Simmons was done completely.