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Franz Wagner and the Orlando Magic have agreed to a five-year, $224 million maximum designated extension that could be worth up to $270 million should he make an All-NBA team in 2025.

Wagner is represented by Jason Glushon and Joey Pennavaria.

Via Adrian Wojnarowski/ESPN

Yup, the Scottie Barnes deal.

You either get maxed or the MLE it seems.

Also, nobody gives a fk who the players are represented by, and we sure as hell don't need the hyperlinks.

deeps6x wrote:Yup, the Scottie Barnes deal.

You either get maxed or the MLE it seems.

Also, nobody gives a fk who the players are represented by, and we sure as hell don't need the hyperlinks.

I'm sure that a significant number of people care, just not the general basketball news reader.

deeps6x wrote:Yup, the Scottie Barnes deal.

You either get maxed or the MLE it seems.

Also, nobody gives a fk who the players are represented by, and we sure as hell don't need the hyperlinks.

Can feel like that but it seems like there’s about 75 players who make between MLE $ and maxes, which seems right. About 3 per team, plus like 1.5 maxes per team.

Melwing wrote:

deeps6x wrote:Yup, the Scottie Barnes deal.

You either get maxed or the MLE it seems.

Also, nobody gives a fk who the players are represented by, and we sure as hell don't need the hyperlinks.

I'm sure that a significant number of people care, just not the general basketball news reader.

You think so? I always find it weird, especially with contracts like this that aren’t surprising or anything. The agent didn’t have to work some wonders to make the deal happen, just doing basic agent-ing.

Franz is a solid young player - but not MAX worthy.

His plummeting 3pt% is alarming --- 28% regular season and 26% during playoffs.

He is still just 22, with plenty of room to grow, but the steep decline in key areas does not bode well for the future.

His 3 point percentage trend :

Rookie - 35%
Year 2 - 36%
Year 3 - 28% ( 26% playoffs )

The corner 3's are where he is best ( when he went away from that his shooting percentages plummeted drastically ).

njknicks wrote:Franz is a solid young player - but not MAX worthy.

His plummeting 3pt% is alarming --- 28% regular season and 26% during playoffs.

He is still just 22, with plenty of room to grow, but the steep decline in key areas does not bode well for the future.

His 3 point percentage trend :

Rookie - 35%
Year 2 - 36%
Year 3 - 28% ( 26% playoffs )

The corner 3's are where he is best ( when he went away from that his shooting percentages plummeted drastically ).

Probably a one year slump rather than a decline. He shot 34% as a sophomore at Michigan too.

LETS GO

luciano-davidwesley wrote:

njknicks wrote:Franz is a solid young player - but not MAX worthy.

His plummeting 3pt% is alarming --- 28% regular season and 26% during playoffs.

He is still just 22, with plenty of room to grow, but the steep decline in key areas does not bode well for the future.

His 3 point percentage trend :

Rookie - 35%
Year 2 - 36%
Year 3 - 28% ( 26% playoffs )

The corner 3's are where he is best ( when he went away from that his shooting percentages plummeted drastically ).

Probably a one year slump rather than a decline. He shot 34% as a sophomore at Michigan too.

yep, word was that he was trying to change his shot as the season began too instead of doing it in the summer.

luciano-davidwesley wrote:

njknicks wrote:Franz is a solid young player - but not MAX worthy.

His plummeting 3pt% is alarming --- 28% regular season and 26% during playoffs.

He is still just 22, with plenty of room to grow, but the steep decline in key areas does not bode well for the future.

His 3 point percentage trend :

Rookie - 35%
Year 2 - 36%
Year 3 - 28% ( 26% playoffs )

The corner 3's are where he is best ( when he went away from that his shooting percentages plummeted drastically ).

Probably a one year slump rather than a decline. He shot 34% as a sophomore at Michigan too.

this is mostly due to increasing workload and defenses actually starting to respect him. i would not worry about his shooting at this stage. he can hit open threes at an average clip. thats how he got those percentages in his first two years. but he can not create his own yet, thats what he tried this year.

contract is fine aswell. the rookie max extension is what every rookie would get that averaged those numbers and if the magic didnt pay him that, hed get this kind of money elsewhere i believe. and also he basically had no offseason before this year. he played a full fiba world cup and straight back into nba camp

NoStatsGuy wrote:

luciano-davidwesley wrote:

njknicks wrote:Franz is a solid young player - but not MAX worthy.

His plummeting 3pt% is alarming --- 28% regular season and 26% during playoffs.

He is still just 22, with plenty of room to grow, but the steep decline in key areas does not bode well for the future.

His 3 point percentage trend :

Rookie - 35%
Year 2 - 36%
Year 3 - 28% ( 26% playoffs )

The corner 3's are where he is best ( when he went away from that his shooting percentages plummeted drastically ).

Probably a one year slump rather than a decline. He shot 34% as a sophomore at Michigan too.

this is mostly due to increasing workload and defenses actually starting to respect him. i would not worry about his shooting at this stage. he can hit open threes at an average clip. thats how he got those percentages in his first two years. but he can not create his own yet, thats what he tried this year.

contract is fine aswell. the rookie max extension is what every rookie would get that averaged those numbers and if the magic didnt pay him that, hed get this kind of money elsewhere i believe. and also he basically had no offseason before this year. he played a full fiba world cup and straight back into nba camp

The point people are missing is that he was still really good despite having this weird shooting slump. Definitely a very plus player last year and his game doesn't rely totally on shooting either given his skill at getting to the rim. Still posted career best raw #s while shooting so poorly.

If the whole argument that he's not worth a max is that he's going to continually get worse at shooting, that seems pretty weird since basically no one has ever suddenly become bad at shooting at age 22. There's virtually no chance he gets worse than this, and even in the worst case (he stays at like 30% from 3 for the next couple years) the Magic don't really regret the extension.