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The Chicago Bulls could have received multiple second-round picks from the Philadelphia 76ers for Andre Drummond at the trade deadline, sources told Jamal Collier of ESPN.

Drummond would eventually sign a two-year, $10 million deal with the Sixers this offseason.

The team could have also received draft compensation for Alex Caruso in a trade package from the Warriors.

The Bulls traded Caruso to the Thunder for Josh Giddey.

The Bulls had a record of 24-27 at the trade deadline. 

Via Jamal Collier/ESPN

Second round picks are worthless. No need to do other teams favors to help them win.

Risk Addict wrote:Second round picks are worthless. No need to do other teams favors to help them win.

So not true anymore. Teams have a much greater financial challenge now because of the aprons. Being able to lock up a guy for as little as 3yrs/$4M has huge value. A 30-35 pick can be more valuable than a 25-30 pick.

Risk Addict wrote:Second round picks are worthless. No need to do other teams favors to help them win.

That was true years ago for the most part but today, that's as false as can be. Draft classes in today's game have more depth and potential extending into the 2nd round. The worldwide expansion of the game has done a ton in terms of the depth nowadays.

StlHawksFan wrote:

Risk Addict wrote:Second round picks are worthless. No need to do other teams favors to help them win.

So not true anymore. Teams have a much greater financial challenge now because of the aprons. Being able to lock up a guy for as little as 3yrs/$4M has huge value. A 30-35 pick can be more valuable than a 25-30 pick.

Through 2031 sixers have 8 second round picks. 5 are theirs. 1 for clippers 1 for Dallas. Oh they have a Detroit pick…, top 55 protected. What odds do you give any of those picks being in top 45? Maybe the clippers pick has a chance….

Yes, its not a huge deal they missed out on some picks for Drummond, but the Bulls' approach here is emblematic of a huge management problem IMO. They consistently overvalue their own assets to the point of paralysis. At some point, you have to make trades where you have to give up something of value to get something of value. And even more importantly, you have to know when to cut bait and move on and not double down on your crappy draft selections (see the ungodly overpay for P Williams).

What I have seen from Chicago the last few years is a constant practice of:
- Overvaluing your players and balking at trades until they no longer have any value or leave in free agency (See Zach Lavine, Derozan)
- Overpaying your players even though they haven't yet earned that paycheck (See P Williams)
Having hope as your only strategy for improving (Like hoping Ball can return at an elite level after all these injuries, or hoping that the new Williams contract ends up being a bargain because now that there's no pressure to improve, and by the way, he hasn't improved one iota in years, he will suddenly improve). I worked for a sales manager once who told me "Hope is not a strategy" he is so right.
- Making trades based on reasons outside of basketball ability/fit/timeline alone: "Oh look, we can get Giddey from OKC for Caruso! Giddey was a high lottery pick and Caruso was undrafted!" Meanwhile teams are always better with Caruso on the floor, and OKC basically had to stop playing Giddey this playoffs he was so terrible. I'm sure they think they can coach him up. That's worked great so far for Williams.

Until Chicago gets rid of their mgmt, I believe they are confined to below average performance forever.

23artest23 wrote:

Risk Addict wrote:Second round picks are worthless. No need to do other teams favors to help them win.

That was true years ago for the most part but today, that's as false as can be. Draft classes in today's game have more depth and potential extending into the 2nd round. The worldwide expansion of the game has done a ton in terms of the depth nowadays.

they were never "wortheless"

Market "buying" price (cash considerations) has been $1M to $3M going back to the 2011 CBA

bball4life wrote:Yes, its not a huge deal they missed out on some picks for Drummond, but the Bulls' approach here is emblematic of a huge management problem IMO. They consistently overvalue their own assets to the point of paralysis. At some point, you have to make trades where you have to give up something of value to get something of value. And even more importantly, you have to know when to cut bait and move on and not double down on your crappy draft selections (see the ungodly overpay for P Williams).

What I have seen from Chicago the last few years is a constant practice of:
- Overvaluing your players and balking at trades until they no longer have any value or leave in free agency (See Zach Lavine, Derozan)
- Overpaying your players even though they haven't yet earned that paycheck (See P Williams)
Having hope as your only strategy for improving (Like hoping Ball can return at an elite level after all these injuries, or hoping that the new Williams contract ends up being a bargain because now that there's no pressure to improve, and by the way, he hasn't improved one iota in years, he will suddenly improve). I worked for a sales manager once who told me "Hope is not a strategy" he is so right.
- Making trades based on reasons outside of basketball ability/fit/timeline alone: "Oh look, we can get Giddey from OKC for Caruso! Giddey was a high lottery pick and Caruso was undrafted!" Meanwhile teams are always better with Caruso on the floor, and OKC basically had to stop playing Giddey this playoffs he was so terrible. I'm sure they think they can coach him up. That's worked great so far for Williams.

Until Chicago gets rid of their mgmt, I believe they are confined to below average performance forever.

It’s not management it’s the owners that need to gtfoh