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The Utah Jazz and veteran guard Patty Mills have agreed to a one-year, $3.3 million contract. This is a veteran minimum deal for Mills and will reportedly be fully guaranteed and will see Mills reunite with Will Hardy. Mills and Hardy both spent time together with the San Antonio Spurs, when the Jazz coach was an assistant under Gregg Popovich.

Mills spent last season with the Atlanta Hawks and Miami Heat. In 13 games with Miami, Mills averaged 5.6 points in 16.4 minutes per game.

The veteran scoring guard once again excelled for the Australian national team this summer. In four games at the 2024 Olympics, Mills averaged 16.5 points and his 41% of his 5.5 three-point attempts per game.

Via Adrian Wojnarowski/ESPN

Get it give it, Patty!

He would be great with Jokic in Denver. Nuggets will fail with Westbrook miserably.

jozef wrote:He would be great with Jokic in Denver. Nuggets will fail with Westbrook miserably.

I don't see what these players see in Westbrick.

I'm confused by what the Jazz are doing? Are they looking for a play-in spot or tanking for Cooper?

MitchB3 wrote:I'm confused by what the Jazz are doing? Are they looking for a play-in spot or tanking for Cooper?

Patty is a good vet for a young team. Low risk move here.

MitchB3 wrote:

jozef wrote:He would be great with Jokic in Denver. Nuggets will fail with Westbrook miserably.

I don't see what these players see in Westbrick.

They see a former MVP who is coming in on a minimum (which means the NBA is subsidizing his salary). He plays hard (too hard?) every minute he is on the floor and if it doesn't work out it is costing them nothing.

I actually don't understand why it's difficult for people to grasp. You fill that roster spot with Westbrook or you fill it with an undrafted two-way player that will never see the floor. Easy call.

People get contract and skill level conflated. Westbrook was never going to live up to the $50m+ deal. I have never been a fan of his in general... but he is still light years better than Patty Mills. I love Patty Mills but he has been rough the past half-decade. Even at his best it's kind of silly to compare the two.

jozef wrote:He would be great with Jokic in Denver. Nuggets will fail with Westbrook miserably.

Don't worry the Jazz will inevitably trade Patty to Denver for Westbrook so he can be bought out.

Pickled Prunes wrote:

MitchB3 wrote:

jozef wrote:He would be great with Jokic in Denver. Nuggets will fail with Westbrook miserably.

I don't see what these players see in Westbrick.

They see a former MVP who is coming in on a minimum (which means the NBA is subsidizing his salary). He plays hard (too hard?) every minute he is on the floor and if it doesn't work out it is costing them nothing.

I actually don't understand why it's difficult for people to grasp. You fill that roster spot with Westbrook or you fill it with an undrafted two-way player that will never see the floor. Easy call.

People get contract and skill level conflated. Westbrook was never going to live up to the $50m+ deal. I have never been a fan of his in general... but he is still light years better than Patty Mills. I love Patty Mills but he has been rough the past half-decade. Even at his best it's kind of silly to compare the two.

1- I know what a minimum contract is.
2- Do you mean stat pad every minute he's on the floor?
3- I'm not a casual fan; I know he was never going to live up to that deal.
4- That MVP was given to him because of two reasons, 1- KD left him during that off-season to join GS. 2- He averaged a triple-double. I'm sure he also had 1 or 2 quadruple-doubles, but they don't like counting turnovers, but hey.
5- He's going into his 17th year in the league, and he still has the same issues, at some point some of these players aren't as smart as they want us to believe.

MitchB3 wrote:

Pickled Prunes wrote:

MitchB3 wrote:

I don't see what these players see in Westbrick.

They see a former MVP who is coming in on a minimum (which means the NBA is subsidizing his salary). He plays hard (too hard?) every minute he is on the floor and if it doesn't work out it is costing them nothing.

I actually don't understand why it's difficult for people to grasp. You fill that roster spot with Westbrook or you fill it with an undrafted two-way player that will never see the floor. Easy call.

People get contract and skill level conflated. Westbrook was never going to live up to the $50m+ deal. I have never been a fan of his in general... but he is still light years better than Patty Mills. I love Patty Mills but he has been rough the past half-decade. Even at his best it's kind of silly to compare the two.

1- I know what a minimum contract is.
2- Do you mean stat pad every minute he's on the floor?
3- I'm not a casual fan; I know he was never going to live up to that deal.
4- That MVP was given to him because of two reasons, 1- KD left him during that off-season to join GS. 2- He averaged a triple-double. I'm sure he also had 1 or 2 quadruple-doubles, but they don't like counting turnovers, but hey.
5- He's going into his 17th year in the league, and he still has the same issues, at some point some of these players aren't as smart as they want us to believe.

Seems like you got (unnecessarily) heated on this one. No need to get upset; we can talk it through.
1) I'm sure you do.
2) Stat padding is a farce. Russ has averaged 22/7/8 over 16 seasons. You make it sound like anyone could do that... if they were just a little more selfish.
3) I don't doubt that.
4) Absolutely. The worst MVP this century. (Rose was close.) MVP is an award driven by the emotions of the voters, but nobody stumbles into it unexpectedly. So, lets forget the MVP and just say he's a nine-time all-star.
5) Yes, he's 35. Patty Mills is 36. Those are the two players we are comparing, right? Westbrook has had two major problems his entire career: a) He plays too fast which leads to turnovers but also keep the defense on their heels. b) He's never had a coach that will bench him if he takes an ill-advised 3pt. I think Malone could address both of those issues.

Pickled Prunes wrote:

MitchB3 wrote:

Pickled Prunes wrote:They see a former MVP who is coming in on a minimum (which means the NBA is subsidizing his salary). He plays hard (too hard?) every minute he is on the floor and if it doesn't work out it is costing them nothing.

I actually don't understand why it's difficult for people to grasp. You fill that roster spot with Westbrook or you fill it with an undrafted two-way player that will never see the floor. Easy call.

People get contract and skill level conflated. Westbrook was never going to live up to the $50m+ deal. I have never been a fan of his in general... but he is still light years better than Patty Mills. I love Patty Mills but he has been rough the past half-decade. Even at his best it's kind of silly to compare the two.

1- I know what a minimum contract is.
2- Do you mean stat pad every minute he's on the floor?
3- I'm not a casual fan; I know he was never going to live up to that deal.
4- That MVP was given to him because of two reasons, 1- KD left him during that off-season to join GS. 2- He averaged a triple-double. I'm sure he also had 1 or 2 quadruple-doubles, but they don't like counting turnovers, but hey.
5- He's going into his 17th year in the league, and he still has the same issues, at some point some of these players aren't as smart as they want us to believe.

Seems like you got (unnecessarily) heated on this one. No need to get upset; we can talk it through.
1) I'm sure you do.
2) Stat padding is a farce. Russ has averaged 22/7/8 over 16 seasons. You make it sound like anyone could do that... if they were just a little more selfish.
3) I don't doubt that.
4) Absolutely. The worst MVP this century. (Rose was close.) MVP is an award driven by the emotions of the voters, but nobody stumbles into it unexpectedly. So, lets forget the MVP and just say he's a nine-time all-star.
5) Yes, he's 35. Patty Mills is 36. Those are the two players we are comparing, right? Westbrook has had two major problems his entire career: a) He plays too fast which leads to turnovers but also keep the defense on their heels. b) He's never had a coach that will bench him if he takes an ill-advised 3pt. I think Malone could address both of those issues.

I'll address your 4th point 1st. D-Rose actually deserved that MVP, how his career turned out has nothing to do with his MVP season.

Now

2- If you look at his game, he basket hangs. He hangs by the basket to grab the rebound and push it to get an assist, the scoring he can do. I'm more impressed by a Jokic or Luka triple-double because it's within the flow of the game and not, someone basket hanging to get boards and push. Also, his career average is 21/7/8

3(5)- I'm sorry but give me Patty Mills over him. I know what I'm getting with Patty, Russ on the other hand, has too many turnovers, basket hangs, is not a shooter, and has questionable IQ.

MitchB3 wrote:

Pickled Prunes wrote:

MitchB3 wrote:
1- I know what a minimum contract is.
2- Do you mean stat pad every minute he's on the floor?
3- I'm not a casual fan; I know he was never going to live up to that deal.
4- That MVP was given to him because of two reasons, 1- KD left him during that off-season to join GS. 2- He averaged a triple-double. I'm sure he also had 1 or 2 quadruple-doubles, but they don't like counting turnovers, but hey.
5- He's going into his 17th year in the league, and he still has the same issues, at some point some of these players aren't as smart as they want us to believe.

Seems like you got (unnecessarily) heated on this one. No need to get upset; we can talk it through.
1) I'm sure you do.
2) Stat padding is a farce. Russ has averaged 22/7/8 over 16 seasons. You make it sound like anyone could do that... if they were just a little more selfish.
3) I don't doubt that.
4) Absolutely. The worst MVP this century. (Rose was close.) MVP is an award driven by the emotions of the voters, but nobody stumbles into it unexpectedly. So, lets forget the MVP and just say he's a nine-time all-star.
5) Yes, he's 35. Patty Mills is 36. Those are the two players we are comparing, right? Westbrook has had two major problems his entire career: a) He plays too fast which leads to turnovers but also keep the defense on their heels. b) He's never had a coach that will bench him if he takes an ill-advised 3pt. I think Malone could address both of those issues.

I'll address your 4th point 1st. D-Rose actually deserved that MVP, how his career turned out has nothing to do with his MVP season.

Now

2- If you look at his game, he basket hangs. He hangs by the basket to grab the rebound and push it to get an assist, the scoring he can do. I'm more impressed by a Jokic or Luka triple-double because it's within the flow of the game and not, someone basket hanging to get boards and push. Also, his career average is 21/7/8

3(5)- I'm sorry but give me Patty Mills over him. I know what I'm getting with Patty, Russ on the other hand, has too many turnovers, basket hangs, is not a shooter, and has questionable IQ.

1) No, Rose won MVP because he became a media darling as CHI jumped from an 8th seed to a #1 seed. They remained a #1 seed the following year when Rose played 39 games. The team made a leap and Rose was rewarded. Rose was very good but it would be kind of like if Ant Edwards won the MVP last season. Everybody loves him but it's too early.
2) So anyone could average a triple-double by "Basket hanging"? Yeah, that isn't so. Rebounding is a skill, even if Adams boxed out for him to let him pad a little.
3) You can have Patty over Westbrook and I can tell you what you would get on a good team... a whole stack of DNP's.

I have always rooted for Patty and been kind of a Russ hater... but my hate has not made me blind.