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Warriors Currently Unwilling To Offer Jonathan Kuminga Contract Near His Max

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 4:21 pm
by RealGM Wiretap

The Golden State Warriors are not currently prepared to offer Jonathan Kuminga a max contract extension worth $224 million over five years, or any deal that even approaches that figure, sources tell Anthony Slater of The Athletic. 


While Kuminga could potentially play himself into that stratosphere, his limited track record and potential fit complications make the Warriors comfortable letting his restricted free agency play out if an extension cannot be reached. Steve Kerr appears to believe Kuminga isn't a small forward due to spacing passing issues and there is a frontcourt minutes crunch with Draymond Green, Andrew Wiggins and Trayce Jackson-Davis. Kuminga could thrive as a smallball power forward.


The two sides have had tentative extension talks, but a clear divide remains on his value. An extension would also make Wiggins more challenging to trade at some point this season due to poison pill restrictions. 


Kuminga is represented by agent Aaron Turner

Via Anthony Slater/The Athletic


Re: Warriors Currently Unwilling To Offer Jonathan Kuminga Contract Near His Max

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 5:55 pm
by WiggOuts
To this point, Kuminga has not shown enough to warrant a max.
One could argue that GS has held his development back and not given him the opportunity to show it, im sure he feels this way as he has already more or less said.

Someone will pay him that so GS has no choice. If they choose to play hardball anyway I can see this getting ugly. Kuminga already seems disgruntled, this is a very bad situation for GS lol

Re: Warriors Currently Unwilling To Offer Jonathan Kuminga Contract Near His Max

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 6:23 pm
by Cassius
WiggOuts wrote:To this point, Kuminga has not shown enough to warrant a max.
One could argue that GS has held his development back and not given him the opportunity to show it, im sure he feels this way as he has already more or less said.

Someone will pay him that so GS has no choice. If they choose to play hardball anyway I can see this getting ugly. Kuminga already seems disgruntled, this is a very bad situation for GS lol


I don't know if anyone in the league would pay him 5/200 unless he goes absolutely crazy this year. Like, Brandon Ingram has been 23/5/5 over his five years in New Orleans and they don't want to pay him.

Re: Warriors Currently Unwilling To Offer Jonathan Kuminga Contract Near His Max

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 8:27 pm
by xchange55
WiggOuts wrote:To this point, Kuminga has not shown enough to warrant a max.
One could argue that GS has held his development back and not given him the opportunity to show it, im sure he feels this way as he has already more or less said.


Interesting take. If GSW really thought he was amazing, they'd make space for him. Even if that meant moving a much older Draymond out. Look at Klay - it only took BP to displace him. Also I really don't see any organizations trying to play games with their drafted talent and try and low ball them. It make zero sense. The reality is Kuminga plays no defense which is why his PT hasn't been consistent.

Re: Warriors Currently Unwilling To Offer Jonathan Kuminga Contract Near His Max

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 8:44 pm
by MalonesElbows
Rarely ends well for the team. It signals they don't believe in you. Utah tried it on Hayward and he walked first chance he could.

Re: Warriors Currently Unwilling To Offer Jonathan Kuminga Contract Near His Max

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 10:43 pm
by dubbmotta
MalonesElbows wrote:Rarely ends well for the team. It signals they don't believe in you. Utah tried it on Hayward and he walked first chance he could.

It's different, Kuminga will be a restricted FA so Warriors can match any offer he gets next summer. Hayward was unrestricted. Only team that will offer him $200 Mil is maybe the Pistons, they have the money and will be desperate.

Re: Warriors Currently Unwilling To Offer Jonathan Kuminga Contract Near His Max

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 11:18 pm
by mihaic
dubbmotta wrote:
MalonesElbows wrote:Rarely ends well for the team. It signals they don't believe in you. Utah tried it on Hayward and he walked first chance he could.

It's different, Kuminga will be a restricted FA so Warriors can match any offer he gets next summer. Hayward was unrestricted. Only team that will offer him $200 Mil is maybe the Pistons, they have the money and will be desperate.

He might sign the QO an bolt after another year, or worse: request to be traded, in season.

They should have really included him in deals a year ago.

Re: Warriors Currently Unwilling To Offer Jonathan Kuminga Contract Near His Max

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 11:50 pm
by GQ Hot Dog
mihaic wrote:
dubbmotta wrote:
MalonesElbows wrote:Rarely ends well for the team. It signals they don't believe in you. Utah tried it on Hayward and he walked first chance he could.

It's different, Kuminga will be a restricted FA so Warriors can match any offer he gets next summer. Hayward was unrestricted. Only team that will offer him $200 Mil is maybe the Pistons, they have the money and will be desperate.

He might sign the QO an bolt after another year, or worse: request to be traded, in season.

They should have really included him in deals a year ago.

Has the bolded ever happened?

What the Warriors are counting on is that they'll a. contend next season and b. Kuminga will play a key role in it. If both are true, they'll sign him to a nice big contract or match whatever big contract he's offered.

Re: Warriors Currently Unwilling To Offer Jonathan Kuminga Contract Near His Max

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2024 1:29 am
by TimeisIllmatic
My guess is he will be traded at the deadline especially if things start to go south in the West standings.

Re: Warriors Currently Unwilling To Offer Jonathan Kuminga Contract Near His Max

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2024 3:11 am
by Pickled Prunes
Not surprising... he isn't a max player.

Re: Warriors Currently Unwilling To Offer Jonathan Kuminga Contract Near His Max

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2024 10:09 am
by Sixers in 4
That is the problem with these non max young players. They are constantly searching for a max deal and the rest of the league knows they want to be overpaid and won't trade a hill of beans for them.

We went through something similar with Noel back in the day.

Re: Warriors Currently Unwilling To Offer Jonathan Kuminga Contract Near His Max

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2024 6:16 pm
by WiggOuts
xchange55 wrote:
WiggOuts wrote:To this point, Kuminga has not shown enough to warrant a max.
One could argue that GS has held his development back and not given him the opportunity to show it, im sure he feels this way as he has already more or less said.


Interesting take. If GSW really thought he was amazing, they'd make space for him. Even if that meant moving a much older Draymond out. Look at Klay - it only took BP to displace him. Also I really don't see any organizations trying to play games with their drafted talent and try and low ball them. It make zero sense. The reality is Kuminga plays no defense which is why his PT hasn't been consistent.

I'm not sure GS had any intention on moving on from their old guys. I think Klay made the choice for them, both him and Dray had a young talent ready to take their spot. Dray probably seems less likely to give his up tho

I think you're seeing GS play games with their drafted talent as we speak. The news coming out that they're unwilling to offer him near max after him saying he wants max says exactly that.