Mavericks Were 'Never' Going To Offer Luka Doncic Five-Year, $345M Supermax Extension

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Mavericks Were 'Never' Going To Offer Luka Doncic Five-Year, $345M Supermax Extension 

Post#1 » by RealGM Wiretap » Tue Feb 18, 2025 2:09 am

The Dallas Mavericks were "never" going to offer Luka Doncic a five-year, $345 million supermax contract extension this offseason, sources tell The Athletic. The conventional wisdom for years had been that the Mavericks would automatically offer it to Doncic and he would need to make a decision. But Doncic was clear both on the record in his introductory press conference with the Los Angeles Lakers' and through various reporting that he intended to sign it. 


Because the Mavericks were not prepared to offer Doncic that extension, this informed Nico Harrison's decision-making as he stealthily pursued a trade with the Lakers. 


“There are people who fit the culture and people who come in and add to the culture,” Harrison said in a news conference after the deal. “Those are two distinct things. I believe the people who are coming in are adding to the culture.”


Most other teams were surprised Doncic was available and were baffled by the decision reached by the Mavericks to trade a player of Doncic's caliber despite the fact he wanted to remain with the franchise. 


“The easiest thing for me is to do nothing,” Harrison said to reporters. “Everyone would praise me for doing nothing. We really believed in it. Time will tell if I’m right.”

Via Christian Clark, Mike Vorkunov, Fred Katz/The Athletic

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Post#2 » by nocomingnogoing » Tue Feb 18, 2025 3:41 am

Top notch reporting - headline “nico doesn’t like being mocked by everyone he’s ever met so releases another story about how this trade that is entirely his fault is not actually his fault”. The world collectively retorts - “Heavy is the crown, dumb ass”
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Post#3 » by Thechicagorilla » Tue Feb 18, 2025 5:19 am

Niko would’ve traded dirk without hesitation
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RealGM Wiretap wrote:Most other teams were surprised Doncic was available and were baffled by the decision reached by the Mavericks to trade a player of Doncic's caliber despite the fact he wanted to remain with the franchise.

You think this is something? You think this is bad? This chicanery? He's done worse. The Nike deal! Nico Harrison is the same guy who famously screwed up signing Steph Curry to Nike by calling him “Seth” and presenting a slideshow meant for KD in a meeting with Steph. And the Mavs still gave him a chance and they shouldn’t have! Cuban made him GM of his precious basketball team. What was he thinking? He’ll never change. Ever since he was with Nike, always the same. Couldn’t keep from making terrible decisions! “Oh poor Nico, never our wittle Nico”. And he gets to be General Manager and President of Basketball Operations of a $6 billion dollar franchise and make millions in salary? What a sick joke. The league should have stopped him when they had the chance! The Mavs now...they have to stop him!
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Post#5 » by Vegeta10176 » Tue Feb 18, 2025 7:26 am

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RealGM Wiretap wrote:Most other teams were surprised Doncic was available and were baffled by the decision reached by the Mavericks to trade a player of Doncic's caliber despite the fact he wanted to remain with the franchise.

You think this is something? You think this is bad? This chicanery? He's done worse. The Nike deal! Nico Harrison is the same guy who famously screwed up signing Steph Curry to Nike by calling him “Seth” and presenting a slideshow meant for KD in a meeting with Steph. And the Mavs still gave him a chance and they shouldn’t have! Cuban made him GM of his precious basketball team. What was he thinking? He’ll never change. Ever since he was with Nike, always the same. Couldn’t keep from making terrible decisions! “Oh poor Nico, never our wittle Nico”. And he gets to be General Manager and President of Basketball Operations of a $6 billion dollar franchise and make millions in salary? What a sick joke. The league should have stopped him when they had the chance! The Mavs now...they have to stop him!



Couple of corrections here.. 6billion? Cuban just sold at a valuation of a little over 3billion so no not billion.. Secondly Nico sure did the trade but the owner didn't want to pay luka and knew there would be backlash I am pretty sure Nico did what was needed.. As for the nike f up I think it worked out well.. For steph.. And for under armour.. And for the general public.
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Post#6 » by Mr Peanut » Tue Feb 18, 2025 11:04 am

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RealGM Wiretap wrote:Most other teams were surprised Doncic was available and were baffled by the decision reached by the Mavericks to trade a player of Doncic's caliber despite the fact he wanted to remain with the franchise.

You think this is something? You think this is bad? This chicanery? He's done worse. The Nike deal! Nico Harrison is the same guy who famously screwed up signing Steph Curry to Nike by calling him “Seth” and presenting a slideshow meant for KD in a meeting with Steph. And the Mavs still gave him a chance and they shouldn’t have! Cuban made him GM of his precious basketball team. What was he thinking? He’ll never change. Ever since he was with Nike, always the same. Couldn’t keep from making terrible decisions! “Oh poor Nico, never our wittle Nico”. And he gets to be General Manager and President of Basketball Operations of a $6 billion dollar franchise and make millions in salary? What a sick joke. The league should have stopped him when they had the chance! The Mavs now...they have to stop him!



Couple of corrections here.. 6billion? Cuban just sold at a valuation of a little over 3billion so no not billion.. Secondly Nico sure did the trade but the owner didn't want to pay luka and knew there would be backlash I am pretty sure Nico did what was needed.. As for the nike f up I think it worked out well.. For steph.. And for under armour.. And for the general public.


I believe he is making a fairly niche reference to a well known scene from the show Better Call Saul, which has potentially played into embellishing some facts haha.
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Post#7 » by Joshuan3 » Tue Feb 18, 2025 12:31 pm

I feel like this decision from the Dallas Mavericks was way above Nico Harrison's pay grade. You don't trade a player that took you to the Finals last year, has generational talent, 25 years old for a injury prone Anthony Davis. Only picking the Lakers and the value they got back is also suspicious. If you look at the Sheldon family (Patrick Dumont/Miriam Adelson), they have other intentions (Israel/Casinos/other businesses) over a basketball team so I can see them hesitant on paying Luka $345 million.
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Post#8 » by jstudabaka » Tue Feb 18, 2025 1:25 pm

So were they also 'never' going to seek out fair market value for him?
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Post#9 » by CobraCommander » Tue Feb 18, 2025 1:50 pm

Joshuan3 wrote:I feel like this decision from the Dallas Mavericks was way above Nico Harrison's pay grade. You don't trade a player that took you to the Finals last year, has generational talent, 25 years old for a injury prone Anthony Davis. Only picking the Lakers and the value they got back is also suspicious. If you look at the Sheldon family (Patrick Dumont/Miriam Adelson), they have other intentions (Israel/Casinos/other businesses) over a basketball team so I can see them hesitant on paying Luka $345 million.

this is a given....its way above Nico....if they were not going to sign him, getting AD back IS the best you could do. AD is an old 31 but he is 31...


the one thing that is baffling is ONLY getting AD back. I would have asked for more than AD and Max. Seems like the lakers said no...

the only reason I can imagine the lakers said no is because Nico let it slip that they were not going to sign Luka....then he put the power in the lakers hands.

its also interesting that the timberwolves said no to trading Ant Man. Im not suprised the Bucks said no...if im the bucks im like..."if you don't say Jokic -then I aint listening"

I hope Luka learned a lesson...the fans can be mad and think Luka is top what ever...but the people that know him best didn't trust him...I don't know those people either so I can't vouch for either side....but what I see on the court is clear...

Luke can play

Luka is not in great shape often

Luka can really play in the playoffs

Luka is a brat to the refs (Draymond level) and disrepectful to his weaker teammates when they mess up (not dapping up Gafford or Hardaway when they messed up was hilarious...grown men trying to dap Luka and he walks by them like "off-off" and a JERK to the coaches ("you better challenge that!!!!") so I can only imagine how he is on campus.

but with all that said...even if he was a demon worshiping the dark lords while snorting something and drinking ale....I would re-sign him...he is just too good to let leave unless the owners are either strict disciplinarians (casino owners generally are not that) or clueless self-interested idiots (casino owners do fall into this category)...

two things can be true...luka can be a diva and the owners idiots....
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Post#10 » by beefman » Tue Feb 18, 2025 2:45 pm

if you weren't going to resign him, then the right move is to trade him
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Post#11 » by gpoon » Tue Feb 18, 2025 2:52 pm

beefman wrote:if you weren't going to resign him, then the right move is to trade him

Yes... but to the highest bidder, not just one team...
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Post#12 » by AWIZZINGBULLET » Tue Feb 18, 2025 3:40 pm

Wasn't going to pay him the max for good reason.

He's the type of player who can't get you over the hump no matter how much you build around him as a franchise player because his mind's not in the right place: the most important thing to Luka is scoring.

The real greats win championships with the team's they are drafted by, when they fail to, a lot of times it's because they had an underwhelming supporting cast.
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Post#13 » by xchange55 » Tue Feb 18, 2025 5:20 pm

AWIZZINGBULLET wrote:Wasn't going to pay him the max for good reason.

He's the type of player who can't get you over the hump no matter how much you build around him as a franchise player because his mind's not in the right place: the most important thing to Luka is scoring.

The real greats win championships with the team's they are drafted by, when they fail to, a lot of times it's because they had an underwhelming supporting cast.


I know it's unpopular opinion with the younger generation who cares more about NBA 2K ratings and stat lines, but it's true. He got exposed in the NBA Finals. I am a C's fan of course, but even the national media called him out for lack of defense.

It's also last year's playoff run where Michael Finely pulled the beer right out of Luka's hands, and he didn't look too happy (I'm not talking about Luka). So yeah there must have been something brewing.

Luka seems to get a free pass because he hasn't had any major injuries.... yet. But he's mostly played 60 something games per season so he's been missing a good bit in his early 20 years. His conditioning issues is really no different than Zion's. Only issue is Zion has had the major and recurring injuries. So the masses will jump on Zion, but still give the free pass to Luka? Makes no sense to me.
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Post#14 » by YourGM99 » Tue Feb 18, 2025 5:39 pm

AWIZZINGBULLET wrote:Wasn't going to pay him the max for good reason.

He's the type of player who can't get you over the hump no matter how much you build around him as a franchise player because his mind's not in the right place: the most important thing to Luka is scoring.

The real greats win championships with the team's they are drafted by, when they fail to, a lot of times it's because they had an underwhelming supporting cast.


Sounds like the problem is with the GM then. If you can’t build around a player who can get you to the conference finals and finals then that’s a problem. The reality is a lot of these owners care more about profit margins than they do about winning a title.

The notion that real greats win with the teams that drafted them is misleading. In order to build through the draft you have to lose in order to get top draft picks or you have to be drafted into a good situation. For example, look at the number of top 11 draft picks the bulls had in the 5 years after drafting Jordan. Or the fact that Tim Duncan was basically drafted to a team that was winning 55-62 games prior Robinson’s injury which resulted in them getting Duncan. Compare that to the Cavs situation before/after drafting LeBron.
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Post#15 » by Pickled Prunes » Tue Feb 18, 2025 7:20 pm

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AWIZZINGBULLET wrote:Wasn't going to pay him the max for good reason.

He's the type of player who can't get you over the hump no matter how much you build around him as a franchise player because his mind's not in the right place: the most important thing to Luka is scoring.

The real greats win championships with the team's they are drafted by, when they fail to, a lot of times it's because they had an underwhelming supporting cast.


Sounds like the problem is with the GM then. If you can’t build around a player who can get you to the conference finals and finals then that’s a problem. The reality is a lot of these owners care more about profit margins than they do about winning a title.

The notion that real greats win with the teams that drafted them is misleading. In order to build through the draft you have to lose in order to get top draft picks or you have to be drafted into a good situation. For example, look at the number of top 11 draft picks the bulls had in the 5 years after drafting Jordan. Or the fact that Tim Duncan was basically drafted to a team that was winning 55-62 games prior Robinson’s injury which resulted in them getting Duncan. Compare that to the Cavs situation before/after drafting LeBron.

Lebron's first stint in CLE is a good comp. DAL tried to build around Luka too early and ran low on draft assets or positive tradeable contracts. If they gave Luka a max, they would be doing it while knowing they didn't have the resources to build a contender around him. Kyrie doesn't have many years left and with his reputation around the league, I don't think you could trade him for a return that is better than keeping him. DAL has been treading water for years, poised between sinking and swimming based on Luka's health. The rest of the roster was too thin to float while he was out. With Lebron, health and fitness were never an issue.
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Post#16 » by The Servant » Tue Feb 18, 2025 7:32 pm

AWIZZINGBULLET wrote:Wasn't going to pay him the max for good reason.

He's the type of player who can't get you over the hump no matter how much you build around him as a franchise player because his mind's not in the right place: the most important thing to Luka is scoring.

The real greats win championships with the team's they are drafted by, when they fail to, a lot of times it's because they had an underwhelming supporting cast.


Dirk was the kind of player who couldn't get you over the hump, until he did.

Luka reached his first Finals a year earlier into his career than Dirk did. It was another 5 year later Dirk made it back and won it. If they shipped him the year after they lost then Mavs would have been an irrelevant franchise. :crazy:

LeBron got bounced by the Spurs and then went on to win 4 of them. This is kind of a joke.
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Post#17 » by tigerae » Tue Feb 18, 2025 7:36 pm

xchange55 wrote:
AWIZZINGBULLET wrote:Wasn't going to pay him the max for good reason.

He's the type of player who can't get you over the hump no matter how much you build around him as a franchise player because his mind's not in the right place: the most important thing to Luka is scoring.

The real greats win championships with the team's they are drafted by, when they fail to, a lot of times it's because they had an underwhelming supporting cast.


I know it's unpopular opinion with the younger generation who cares more about NBA 2K ratings and stat lines, but it's true. He got exposed in the NBA Finals. I am a C's fan of course, but even the national media called him out for lack of defense.

It's also last year's playoff run where Michael Finely pulled the beer right out of Luka's hands, and he didn't look too happy (I'm not talking about Luka). So yeah there must have been something brewing.

Luka seems to get a free pass because he hasn't had any major injuries.... yet. But he's mostly played 60 something games per season so he's been missing a good bit in his early 20 years. His conditioning issues is really no different than Zion's. Only issue is Zion has had the major and recurring injuries. So the masses will jump on Zion, but still give the free pass to Luka? Makes no sense to me.

I know people quickly forget, but Luka was bleeding from both knees last playoffs. He was hobbling and still put the team on his back to take them to the finals. As a 5th seed who no one even gave a real chance at the start of the playoffs. The Celtics also had a complete starting 5 with Tatum, Brown, Jrue, White and Porzingis.

I don't know what basketball people watch, but while Kyrie has great one on one skills he has never been able to do anything without LeBron in a team. They won the lottery the year before LeBron went back to the Cavs when Kyrie was the man. He had Tatum and Brown with the Celtics and he blamed everyone else but himself when they couldn't go deep in the playoffs. He screwed up with the Nets so bad that only 2 teams were even interested in trading for him. The Lakers and the Mavericks and the Lakers were only interested because LeBron was pushing for it. While the Mavs were just really desperate to find a partner for Luka.

Time will tell, but if injuries was their number one issue with Luka, AD definitely should have not been their number one target. The GM screwed up huge and now is trying to say anything to save his job and the team from a long-term hate they will undoubtedly receive from their fans.
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Post#18 » by Furinkazan » Tue Feb 18, 2025 8:07 pm

fkn artard should just stfu
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Post#19 » by Alex_84 » Tue Feb 18, 2025 9:38 pm

Yes, I'm sure Dallas being cheapskates will not bite them in the ass.
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Post#20 » by Twinkie defense » Tue Feb 18, 2025 11:23 pm

I think we are seeing a recalculation of how teams go about constructing their rosters in this punitive "second apron" cap era. If you are devoting a big chunk of your cap to one or two players, you'd better really make sure they are superstar players who you can rely on and who will make you a winner - because once you're in those apron windows - especially the second apron - it makes it really hard to change your roster, to add players, to move players.

On the flipside of this, rookie-scale players who can make an impact on the court have never been more valuable.

I suppose the NBA likes the excitement of marquis players changing teams... but I don't think that's what they intended when they introduced the new cap rules.

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