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Pat Riley: Heat Probably Won't Run It Back

Posted: Fri May 9, 2025 6:29 pm
by RealGM Wiretap

Pat Riley had his end of season media availability on Friday and suggested that the Miami Heat could be embarking on a major offseason after they traded away Jimmy Butler and fell another tier in the Eastern Conference.


“We have to make changes philosophically and even personnel wise," said Riley. "We probably won’t run it back. But players aren’t just going to show up. You have to make deals.”


The Heat will not have cap space until 2026 and will be "moving forward" with Tyler Herro and Bam Adebayo.


“We are going to look for something that will really help this team," said Riley. "It might take years. [But] we are not going to deal with a long process, nor is ownership.”

Via Barry Jackson, Anthony Chiang/Miami Herald


Re: Pat Riley: Heat Probably Won't Run It Back

Posted: Fri May 9, 2025 6:42 pm
by the_process
"It might take years", but "we're not going to deal with a long process".

:lol:

Two years in this NBA is an eternity. Riley is in his 80's, so is Arison I think.

Miami does not have the assets to build around Ban and Herro; and even if a guy demands to go to only Miami, that doesn't necessarily mean anything, either (see: Lillard, Damian).

Your old asses have no choice but to tank.

Re: Pat Riley: Heat Probably Won't Run It Back

Posted: Fri May 9, 2025 6:56 pm
by Trippp
Yeah, this is the best time to rebuild. Good players coming in the next few drafts. Cameron Boozer would look good as a HEAT.

Trade Herro to the Hornets (Herro-Ball backcourt) for draft assets. Trade Bam to the Pelicans for young players and draft assets.

Re: Pat Riley: Heat Probably Won't Run It Back

Posted: Fri May 9, 2025 7:34 pm
by TimeisIllmatic
Is Pat finally getting out of his stubborn ways?

At least they have a 1st from the Warriors in this draft.

Re: Pat Riley: Heat Probably Won't Run It Back

Posted: Fri May 9, 2025 11:33 pm
by Pickled Prunes
Run what back?

Re: Pat Riley: Heat Probably Won't Run It Back

Posted: Fri May 9, 2025 11:59 pm
by Pickled Prunes
"THE Process" your namesake, has turned out to be the longest process. MIA has 1-2 years to potentially tank before owing an unprotected 1st to CHA. I'm sure they see that as their window.

But honestly, Bam + Spo makes it almost impossible to get a top pick in the East. They have a couple of tradeable 1sts with a third coming on draft day, some tradeable expiring deals and a bunch of young players with upside. There are teams that are much worse off.

Re: Pat Riley: Heat Probably Won't Run It Back

Posted: Sat May 10, 2025 1:00 am
by ontnut
the_process wrote:"It might take years", but "we're not going to deal with a long process".

:lol:

Two years in this NBA is an eternity. Riley is in his 80's, so is Arison I think.

Miami does not have the assets to build around Ban and Herro; and even if a guy demands to go to only Miami, that doesn't necessarily mean anything, either (see: Lillard, Damian).

Your old asses have no choice but to tank.

It's codespeak to Adam Silver to setup the next "disgruntled star" to go to Miami, maybe even throw in a top 3 lotto jump.

Honestly though, the Heat have never won fewer than 37 games post-LBJ. They've tanked ONCE in the last 20 years in 07-08, which was when they traded away Shaq and Wade missed 21 games for surgery. In 02-03 they won 25 games for one year and got Wade, then immediately became contenders. Prior to that, it was their 3 inaugural season that they were bad.

I believe Riley when he says they'll be back in a couple years. They're not going to tank multiple years. They might trade Herro/Bam for some younger talent and deepen their roster, but they're not gonna go the full PHI/Utah/WAS tear it down direction.

Re: Pat Riley: Heat Probably Won't Run It Back

Posted: Sat May 10, 2025 3:14 am
by HeatFanLifer
Heat probably won’t run it back? Fookin captain obvious over here. This team is treadmill city. Everyone knew that last offseason and he doubled down on the treadmill. Reset the team or retire.

Sorry Pat. Thanks for the memories and what you did for the franchise, but the future is now.

Re: Pat Riley: Heat Probably Won't Run It Back

Posted: Sat May 10, 2025 5:26 am
by TheNetsFan
The Heat were desperate to sneak into the playoffs, so as to not owe OKC an unprotected pick next year. I envision a one year hard tank followed by max space in '26.

Re: Pat Riley: Heat Probably Won't Run It Back

Posted: Sat May 10, 2025 6:08 am
by Vegeta10176
the_process wrote:"It might take years", but "we're not going to deal with a long process".

:lol:

Two years in this NBA is an eternity. Riley is in his 80's, so is Arison I think.

Miami does not have the assets to build around Ban and Herro; and even if a guy demands to go to only Miami, that doesn't necessarily mean anything, either (see: Lillard, Damian).

Your old asses have no choice but to tank.


They would be best off trading Bam and Hero if they own there picks and getting some good picks in strong drafts and then getting a free agent or a trade down the track when they have some cost controlled good players..

Re: Pat Riley: Heat Probably Won't Run It Back

Posted: Sat May 10, 2025 8:53 am
by Hans1984
Maybe hes part of the problem.

Re: Pat Riley: Heat Probably Won't Run It Back

Posted: Sat May 10, 2025 2:28 pm
by Dave_R
Run WHAT back? They stunk and will for the forseeable future. Can't stand Riley due to him faxing in his resignation to the Knicks. Also, for someone that preaches focus and practice, Knicks were a TERRIBLE FT shooting team, especially in the playoffs (when they would have beaten the Bulls if they were half decent). When the Knicks lost game 7 to the Rockets, it was because of Riley (leaving Starks in for a 2-17 FG effort (he was getting catch and shoots - Riley should have put in Ro Blackman and Knicks would have won). Finally, let's remember, Riley NEVER won anything without either Kareem, Magic, Worthy or LeBron, Wade, Bosh. Lots of coaches would have won with those rosters.

Re: Pat Riley: Heat Probably Won't Run It Back

Posted: Sat May 10, 2025 4:07 pm
by Bk68
Dave_R wrote:Run WHAT back? They stunk and will for the forseeable future. Can't stand Riley due to him faxing in his resignation to the Knicks. Also, for someone that preaches focus and practice, Knicks were a TERRIBLE FT shooting team, especially in the playoffs (when they would have beaten the Bulls if they were half decent). When the Knicks lost game 7 to the Rockets, it was because of Riley (leaving Starks in for a 2-17 FG effort (he was getting catch and shoots - Riley should have put in Ro Blackman and Knicks would have won). Finally, let's remember, Riley NEVER won anything without either Kareem, Magic, Worthy or LeBron, Wade, Bosh. Lots of coaches would have won with those rosters.

Finally, someone brings up the Knicks free throw shooting from 1995. WTH

Re: Pat Riley: Heat Probably Won't Run It Back

Posted: Sat May 10, 2025 7:17 pm
by the_process
Pickled Prunes wrote:"THE Process" your namesake, has turned out to be the longest process. MIA has 1-2 years to potentially tank before owing an unprotected 1st to CHA. I'm sure they see that as their window.

But honestly, Bam + Spo makes it almost impossible to get a top pick in the East. They have a couple of tradeable 1sts with a third coming on draft day, some tradeable expiring deals and a bunch of young players with upside. There are teams that are much worse off.


The Sixers suck and are completely irrelevant to this conversation.

What you said about Bam, Herro, and Spo are too good to bottom out is correct. They also don't have the assets to add anyone significant unless they are taking a big swing on a distressed asset.

Re: Pat Riley: Heat Probably Won't Run It Back

Posted: Sun May 11, 2025 7:26 am
by Pickled Prunes
the_process wrote:
Pickled Prunes wrote:"THE Process" your namesake, has turned out to be the longest process. MIA has 1-2 years to potentially tank before owing an unprotected 1st to CHA. I'm sure they see that as their window.

But honestly, Bam + Spo makes it almost impossible to get a top pick in the East. They have a couple of tradeable 1sts with a third coming on draft day, some tradeable expiring deals and a bunch of young players with upside. There are teams that are much worse off.


The Sixers suck and are completely irrelevant to this conversation.

What you said about Bam, Herro, and Spo are too good to bottom out is correct. They also don't have the assets to add anyone significant unless they are taking a big swing on a distressed asset.

Well, I didn't mention Herro, who is pretty much a younger Zach Lavine on a better contract. He's tradeable and is one of the players I think Riley had in mind when he said he wouldn't run it back.