Grading The Deal: Bucks, Suns, 76ers Swap Point Guards

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Grading The Deal: Bucks, Suns, 76ers Swap Point Guards 

Post#1 » by RealGM Articles » Fri Feb 20, 2015 7:07 am

In the most surprising deal completed before Thursday afternoon’s trade deadline, the Milwaukee Bucks, Phoenix Suns and Philadelphia 76ers agreed to swap five players and a first round draft pick.


The Bucks will receive Michael Carter-Williams, Tyler Ennis and Miles Plumlee, the Suns get Brandon Knight and Kendall Marshall and the 76ers add a first round pick from Phoenix (via the Los Angeles Lakers).


The draft pick is top-five protected in 2015 -- the Lakers enter the second half of the season with the best chance at landing the fourth overall pick -- but only top-three protected in 2016 and 2017, and unprotected entirely in 2018.


Carter-Williams, 23, was the 11th overall pick in 2013 and is the NBA’s reigning Rookie of the Year (in a questionable draft class). For most teams, he'd have figured to be a significant part of the future, but Sam Hinkie seemed prepared to deal him dating back to last year's draft.


Grade for Philadelphia: C+


If nothing else, the 76ers are consistent. It’s now clear that Hinkie is even more patient than we imagined. If the window to begin winning games was next season, you can now push that back to 2016-17.


Perhaps Philadelphia didn’t like what they saw in Carter-Williams, but the fear has to be that he develops into the type of point guard they eventually need around Joel Embiid and Nerlens Noel -- assuming both are still on the roster when they finish constructing Hinkie’s vision.


The trade makes perfect sense if the 76ers are confident in their ability to scout and evaluate draft talent. The pick they receive in this deal should be higher than the selection that was used to draft Carter-Williams.


Phoenix remade their backcourt on Thursday, adding Knight and sending out Isaiah Thomas (Boston) and Goran Dragic (Miami).


Knight, who was enjoying a career-best season with Milwaukee, will be a restricted free agent this coming summer. I wrote just a few weeks ago that Knight deserved All-Star consideration and his numbers suggest that while he didn’t make the Eastern squad, he’s going to get paid very well in free agency.


The trio of Eric Bledsoe, Dragic and Thomas didn’t work out, but the deals they swung will allow them to test out a Bledsoe-Knight combination and decide if they want to make that a long-term backcourt.


Knight, who is shooting 40.9% from three, should fit nicely in Phoenix as the off-guard. Jeff Hornacek will have the option of using Bledsoe and Knight interchangeably. Not anointing an unquestioned point guard may seem like a mistake in the wake of the disaster that was the Point Guardians of the Galaxy era, but the ball is much easier to share between two players than three.


It’s difficult to grade the Suns simply on this deal. While it was technically a separate one from the Thomas trade with the Celtics, it’s unlikely they make one deal without the other.


Grade for Phoenix: B


Adding Knight also gives the Suns a better defensive option in the backcourt than either Dragic or Thomas, who is always at a height disadvantage. Phoenix ranks 19th in defensive efficiency (107 points per 100 possessions).


The Suns will waive Marshall, who was injured in Milwaukee’s game against the New York Knicks in London last month. 


Milwaukee is the only one of these three clubs firmly in the playoff picture and while they will undergo a period of adjustment, they can make this move with an eye on the long-term and maintain the same level of play they established through the first 50-plus games of the season.


Carter-Williams is long and athletic, fitting in perfectly with the type of team John Hammond and David Morway have put together. He’s also more of a pass-first point guard than Knight, a combo guard more than anything else.


Knight was a border-line All-Star and very important to Milwaukee’s turnaround, but his on/off numbers this season weren’t favorable. His net rating per 100 possessions with the Bucks was a startling -8.7 in nearly 1,700 minutes.


Carter-Williams isn’t nowhere near the shooter Knigh tis, but he operates the pick-and-roll much better and his all-around passing skills will be welcomed by his teammates. The Bucks have a defensive identity, but will move the basketball under Jason Kidd, who is a perfect mentor for MCW.


Kidd was a passing point guard with a suspect shot when he came into the league, but was able to develop a jumper as his career progressed. I’m not saying Kidd is a shooting savant, but if anyone can mold Carter-Williams into an All-Star-caliber point guard it’s him.


A new point guard isn’t all the Bucks received -- multiple teams coveted Ennis at the deadline and Plumlee can help protect the rim in the absence of Larry Sanders.


Whether or not the Bucks were looking to move Knight, you can imagine adding three recent first-round picks is something most teams would find advantageous. Knight was beloved within the organization, but with his uncertain future and the type of contracts they acquired the Bucks are in better position to put special something together over an extended period of time.


The core of Giannis Antetokounmpo (20), Khris Middleton (23), Jabari Parker (19) and John Henson (24) is extremely young and they feel rookies Damien Inglis (19) and Johnny O’Bryant (21) could become rotation players as well.


The Bucks were likely going to be the underdog in a first-round series with Knight, so it makes sense to swap him out for a point guard with perhaps a high ceiling and longer contract.


Grade for Bucks: A


Milwaukee has $15 million in cap space this summer and will have a roster comprised solely on rookies or expiring contracts with which to play. That is a tremendous amount of flexibility for team that is already winning.

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Post#2 » by jb11117 » Fri Feb 20, 2015 7:44 am

I really cannot understand how trading two nice young players (Ennis, Plumlee) and a lottery pick for B Knight could rate as a B. If you are in the mood to be generous, perhaps a D, but this was an awful trade.
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Post#3 » by TdotRap4Lyfe » Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:38 am

jb11117 wrote:I really cannot understand how trading two nice young players (Ennis, Plumlee) and a lottery pick for B Knight could rate as a B. If you are in the mood to be generous, perhaps a D, but this was an awful trade.

I'd say C, Plumlee already wanted out, Ennis hasn't proved anything yet; still very raw. The pick is the real prize. If Lakers fell out of the top 5, then whoever they drafted would have been more valuable than Knight is as an expiring looking for a big pay day.
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Post#4 » by ebrian » Fri Feb 20, 2015 1:30 pm

An absolutely tremendous trade by the Bucks.
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Post#5 » by TONYROMOHOF » Fri Feb 20, 2015 3:16 pm

If the 76ers fall out of top three in the draft, they could be looking for a new pg for quite some time

Very happy not to be a fan of philly
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Post#6 » by Dcebucks11 » Fri Feb 20, 2015 9:08 pm

honestly as a bucks fan i would of been as happy to let knight walk this summer.. had no interest in the bucks payin him

with this trade the bucks get a potential back up center in Plumlee, and two point guards on their rookie deals past this year. i would rather have the pick cuz i think ennis could be a potential starting pg but oh well.
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Post#7 » by the_process » Sat Feb 21, 2015 8:14 am

These grades are brutal. Philly gets at least a B (B+\A- if we're nitpicking) for getting what should be the 7th pick in next year's draft for a guy that can't shoot his way out of a wet paper bag and has horrible advanced stats and has clashed at times with his coaching staff. And I like MCW.

Milwaukee gets an A+ (Is there something higher than A+? Because MIL deserves whatever that is) for turning an empty numbers EXPIRING into 3 youngsters whom all have promise.

And Phoenix gets an F for falling for Knight's empty numbers while giving up 2 young guys and what will be a mid lottery pick in a vain quest to hold off OKC for the 8th seed after being forced to flip Dragic. So they will miss the playoffs and lose their best asset to do it.
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Post#8 » by Player23 » Sat Feb 21, 2015 12:10 pm

"Carter-Williams isn’t nowhere..."

seriously? just, wow.
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Post#9 » by luss54321 » Mon Feb 23, 2015 12:00 am

oyoyer wrote:These grades are brutal. Philly gets at least a B (B+\A- if we're nitpicking) for getting what should be the 7th pick in next year's draft for a guy that can't shoot his way out of a wet paper bag and has horrible advanced stats and has clashed at times with his coaching staff. And I like MCW.

Milwaukee gets an A+ (Is there something higher than A+? Because MIL deserves whatever that is) for turning an empty numbers EXPIRING into 3 youngsters whom all have promise.

And Phoenix gets an F for falling for Knight's empty numbers while giving up 2 young guys and what will be a mid lottery pick in a vain quest to hold off OKC for the 8th seed after being forced to flip Dragic. So they will miss the playoffs and lose their best asset to do it.


The Sixers are a joke

All this tanking and what do they have to show for it? Noel and Embiid... Seriously?
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Post#10 » by Furinkazan » Mon Feb 23, 2015 9:39 am

oyoyer wrote:These grades are brutal. Philly gets at least a B (B+\A- if we're nitpicking) for getting what should be the 7th pick in next year's draft for a guy that can't shoot his way out of a wet paper bag and has horrible advanced stats and has clashed at times with his coaching staff. And I like MCW.

Milwaukee gets an A+ (Is there something higher than A+? Because MIL deserves whatever that is) for turning an empty numbers EXPIRING into 3 youngsters whom all have promise.

And Phoenix gets an F for falling for Knight's empty numbers while giving up 2 young guys and what will be a mid lottery pick in a vain quest to hold off OKC for the 8th seed after being forced to flip Dragic. So they will miss the playoffs and lose their best asset to do it.



Philly should get an F as fu..ed
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Post#11 » by TigerInYourTank » Mon Mar 30, 2015 5:16 am

Hah, nice grades, guys.

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