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Post#1 » by RealGM Articles » Thu Sep 22, 2016 6:57 pm

Sam Hinkie’s a half-ironic folk hero these days. Christian Clemenson as Che, Steve Jobs bracketed by six inches of scare quotes. Jerry and Bryan Colangelo running your show will make anyone nostalgic for their predecessors—imagine hiring for a difficult job in a highly competitive field and thinking the most qualified candidate... is my son—but a 7,000-word Lincoln-misquoting burst of eccentricity does not make an eccentric, and Hinkie’s approach to team construction wasn’t postmodern so much as it was cribbed from the mind of a 2K-addicted teen. Any hack with a third grader’s grasp of probability can enact a radical teardown: strip a team for parts and ride a bunch of fringe-professional twentysomethings to the top of the lottery. That Hinkie coated this approach in the veneer of next-level, data-driven strategery didn’t make it any more sophisticated. (Creating cap space can be a synonym for not signing good players.) He wasn’t the first person to think of it; he was just the first to get such a doozy of a mandate from ownership. 


Even as a blunt polemic, Hinkie’s approach failed. He biffed most of those lotto selections, taking Michael Carter-Williams over Steven Adams and Giannis Antetokounmpo, and Jahlil Okafor over Kristaps Porzingis. (His 2014 draft is still tagged with a TBA because Joel Embiid and Dario Sarić have yet to play an NBA game.) Drafting is tricky and even the league’s best executives embarrass themselves from time to time, but more disconcerting than Hinkie’s blunders was the fact that most of his picks didn’t jibe with his purported philosophy. If the central tenet of The Process was the acquisition of young stars, why did Hinkie take polished prospects with defined ceilings instead of boom-or-bust freaks? No one knew for sure in 2013 if Giannis was going to become anything more than a ludicrous athlete who wasn’t quite a basketball player, but the Sixers had nothing to lose. Instead they took Carter-Williams, who turned 22 before the season started. Porzingis had moderate Dirk Nowitzki buzz, and Hinkie chose a back-to-the-basket sieve in Okafor.


It doesn’t take much, in sportsworld, to receive more credit than you deserve. Shane Battier has gotten a lot of mileage out of a senator’s smile and liking The Big Lebowski. Joe Maddon is treated like the Allen Ginsberg of baseball management because he’s a whit less crustily authoritarian than Buck Showalter. Connor Barwin’s interest in bands Pitchfork was lauding a decade ago—late-era Animal Collective is apparently “experimental psychedelia”—is met with delighted bafflement. 


There’s some the dog can talk! condescension in this. The tone we take when discussing sports-folk who aren’t rock-dumb or don’t traffic exclusively in cliché is similar to the one we use to describe pornstars who read books and actors who namedrop Gloria Steinem. It’s a combination of surprise and overenthusiastic congratulation. It betrays that we expect them to be idiots with bad taste in the first place.


I guess we expect general managers and team presidents to be smarter than players and coaches—they are vaguely bookish men who deal with money, after all—but most of them are Bill Lumbergh-Norman Dale hybrids, alternating between bromide salad and ass-covering executive-ese. Half of them are incompetents, making mistakes not just at a granular level, but in terms of their overall approach. They overpay veterans, reach in the draft, hire mediocre retread coaches, and misunderstand basic team construction. They talk about how much the franchise will improve this year, its bright future, and we don’t believe them. What they’ve done definitely isn’t going to work. We’ve seen it not work tens of times before.


So when someone arrives announcing they’re going to take a novel approach that flatters the sensibilities of the NBA Reddit crowd and assemble an analytics team that includes literal neuroscientists and Navy SEALs—it floors some and at least piques the interest of others who have watched decades of Ernie Grunfeld and Billy King not switching their styles up despite repeated failure. There were skeptics when the Sixers hired Sam Hinkie, but most everyone agreed that he was—the lack of specificity is pointed here—up to stuff.


As it turned out, seeming like he was up to stuff was about all Hinkie was good at. He didn’t talk to the press, entrusting Brett Brown with articulating the organization’s vision. This was ostensibly because Brown is the superior communicator, but it also created a mystique. Hinkie was a distant figure throughout his Sixers tenure, frequently discussed but never spoken to. It wasn’t difficult to imagine him strung out in some NORAD base setup with garbled Matrix text dripping down hundreds of screens. He didn’t discourage the impression, anyway. That old chestnut about opening your mouth and removing all doubt that you’re a fool applies to geniuses too: if people think you might be one, don’t contradict them by talking. Hinkie made some decent trades, but the moves that burnished his legend were the inscrutable ones: what the hell was he planning to do with all those second-round picks? 


The mystique evaporated as it became clear that Hinkie didn’t know what he was doing. It turns out it’s hard to develop young big men when you don’t sign anyone to get them the ball, and that building through the draft is, no matter how many MIT and Stanford grads you put on the task, not a science. As Hinkie’s errors piled up, he became more legible as a guy who was making himself seem important by making his job more complicated than it needed to be. He was, finally, just terrible at choosing which basketball players to hire. The league grew impatient with his hapless long game, pushed the Sixers to hire Jerry Colangelo, and Hinkie left the organization a few months later.


Bryan Colangelo has never been an impressive personnel man. He’s a known quantity with an extensive track record as one of those unexciting Lumbergh-Dales. He has Ben Simmons and a bunch of cap space and the consensus is he’ll probably, somewhere along the line, screw this project up in a way that’s familiar. He’ll trade lottery picks for some past-it star or spend too much on a Tyreke Evans type. If and when this happens, we’ll feel as if we’ve seen it coming, which will make it doubly aggravating.


What do we want from the people who run our sports teams? We want them to be great at everything, obviously—the aspects of the gig we understand and the unseen stuff we don’t—but beyond that, we want our anxieties assuaged. We want to know that things are being handled, that there’s a plan and several contingency plans, that there’s a capable group of advisers in place and they’re crunching numbers and watching tape and scouting Europe. But we want to be fooled, too. We want to think that if everyone involved makes the right decisions, their championship contention scheme will work. We want to believe all the chaos and luck that contributes to a title run can somehow be rendered irrelevant by competence. This isn’t possible, but we’re open to the illusion of it. Don’t R.C. Buford and Gregg Popovich seem slightly supernatural?


In other words, Sam Hinkie got one thing right. He seemed, for a little while, like he might be able to control what’s beyond control. He sold Philadelphia an absurd promise, which is what they asked for. Now that we know who he is, he can never get that thing right again. And the Sixers have to reckon with reality, as if waking from a dream.

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Re: Thirty Futures: Philadelphia 76ers 

Post#2 » by Att » Fri Sep 23, 2016 2:24 am

a childish writing style and a complete disregard to all that Hinkie has achieved and the bright future of The Sixers.
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Post#3 » by PaulGaston » Fri Sep 23, 2016 3:58 am

We are on the verge of seeing whether or not Hinkie's plan actually worked. It does seem like people are trying to get their licks in while they can. I sense a nervousness from people who really really don't want to see a pure tankjob succeed. Problem is, a couple years from now if these young lotto prospects actually develop as expected, the Hinkie Story will change.
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Re: Thirty Futures: Philadelphia 76ers 

Post#4 » by dorkestra » Fri Sep 23, 2016 6:35 am

Surprised this made it passed the editor.
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Re: Thirty Futures: Philadelphia 76ers 

Post#5 » by TOMSPY77 » Fri Sep 23, 2016 11:11 am

I am not trying to be rude but although I found your last few pieces entertaining if not very informative, this one is so filled with metaphors it drove me insane, like the bull seeing the red of a matador's cape, heated anger like stepping barefoot onto the sun and annoyance like trying to get a stubborn wrapper open with your teeth. :banghead:
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Re: Thirty Futures: Philadelphia 76ers 

Post#6 » by We Are Groot » Fri Sep 23, 2016 11:15 am

dorkestra wrote:Surprised this made it passed the editor.


Your comment wouldn't have made it past the editor.

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Post#7 » by CoreyGallagher » Fri Sep 23, 2016 11:42 am

I suppose we're just going to have to reckon with the reality that is all of these draft picks and prospects we have now. Lol. There's no actual mention of the future because then the writer would have had to of acknowledge the good that Hinkie did. This was bad.
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Lazy Journalism 

Post#8 » by PF55 » Fri Sep 23, 2016 1:59 pm

Typical national media Hinkie hatchet job straight out of page one of the hate Hinkie handbook. Haven't i read this massively misleading sentiment regurgitated a hundred times before:

"Any hack with a third grader’s grasp of probability can enact a radical teardown: strip a team for parts and ride a bunch of fringe-professional twentysomethings to the top of the lottery."

Shouldn't any good journalist provide some context before before splashing his ill informed opinion. Let me help you, Colin.

In 2012, Doug Collins (bet you love him) and company traded for Bynum, who never never played for them and someone named Arnette Moutrie. They gave up:

*Andre Igoudala (2015 Finals MVP)
*Nic Vucevic (2011 first round pick)
*Moe Harkless (2012 first round pick)
*Sixers protected 2014 first round pick
*Sixers 2017 first round pick

In May 2013 Hinkie walked into a team who gave away 4 out of 7 first round picks between 2011-2017 and their best player. He was left with a point guard with bad feet (Jrue Holiday), the big Collins free agent signing, Kwame Brown, Thadeous Young, Evan Turner and a bunch of D league guys. That's it. No talent, no picks.

In three years Hinkie somehow turned that into the follow draft picks: Noel, Embiid, Saric, Okafor, Simmons, Luwawu, Korkmaz, the higher of the Sixers or Sacramento's pick in 2017 and Lakers pick in 2017 (unless if top three, then Lakers unprotected 2018 pick- MCW pick won't look so bad in about 8 months).

Explain to me how your 3rd grader would have turned three first round picks into 9 first round picks between 2013-2017! Up to 7 of them will be lottery picks!! And i haven't mention the the unprotected Sacramento pick in 2019 (Sam knew that better than the Kings front office that Boogie will be gone summer 2018) that he swiped for NOTHING. Something for nothing. What a concept.

Must be some really smart 3rd graders you hang around with.
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Post#9 » by scottbiggie » Fri Sep 23, 2016 3:47 pm

PF55 wrote:Typical national media Hinkie hatchet job straight out of page one of the hate Hinkie handbook. Haven't i read this massively misleading sentiment regurgitated a hundred times before:

"Any hack with a third grader’s grasp of probability can enact a radical teardown: strip a team for parts and ride a bunch of fringe-professional twentysomethings to the top of the lottery."

Shouldn't any good journalist provide some context before before splashing his ill informed opinion. Let me help you, Colin.

In 2012, Doug Collins (bet you love him) and company traded for Bynum, who never never played for them and someone named Arnette Moutrie. They gave up:

*Andre Igoudala (2015 Finals MVP)
*Nic Vucevic (2011 first round pick)
*Moe Harkless (2012 first round pick)
*Sixers protected 2014 first round pick
*Sixers 2017 first round pick

In May 2013 Hinkie walked into a team who gave away 4 out of 7 first round picks between 2011-2017 and their best player. He was left with a point guard with bad feet (Jrue Holiday), the big Collins free agent signing, Kwame Brown, Thadeous Young, Evan Turner and a bunch of D league guys. That's it. No talent, no picks.

In three years Hinkie somehow turned that into the follow draft picks: Noel, Embiid, Saric, Okafor, Simmons, Luwawu, Korkmaz, the higher of the Sixers or Sacramento's pick in 2017 and Lakers pick in 2017 (unless if top three, then Lakers unprotected 2018 pick- MCW pick won't look so bad in about 8 months).

Explain to me how your 3rd grader would have turned three first round picks into 9 first round picks between 2013-2017! Up to 7 of them will be lottery picks!! And i haven't mention the the unprotected Sacramento pick in 2019 (Sam knew that better than the Kings front office that Boogie will be gone summer 2018) that he swiped for NOTHING. Something for nothing. What a concept.

Must be some really smart 3rd graders you hang around with.


Well said! This is one of the worst articles I've read in some time. Remember Doug wanted to give Kwame a 5 year deal also??? But was talked down to 2 years. LOL
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Re: Thirty Futures: Philadelphia 76ers 

Post#10 » by PF55 » Fri Sep 23, 2016 5:41 pm

Yup. When was the last Doug Collins hatchet job article. The destroyed the Sixers in his never ending quest for the holy grail (aka the 8th seed). But he is safely ensconced in the old boys club, unlike Hinkie.

So clueless hacks like this guy take cheap easy shots at Hinkie.
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Re: Thirty Futures: Philadelphia 76ers 

Post#11 » by dorkestra » Fri Sep 23, 2016 6:21 pm

We Are Groot wrote:
dorkestra wrote:Surprised this made it passed the editor.


Your comment wouldn't have made it past the editor.

:lol:


good thing i'm not in the article writing business. the author, on the other hand... :)
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Post#12 » by Eyeamok » Fri Sep 23, 2016 7:30 pm

You know if you are going to be an objective journalist/writer, at least present both sides of the story.
This writer is horrible. He reminds me of the guy that decides he wants to lose weight. So he empties out his fridge of all junke food and soda, and decides to walk a mile every day. After 1 week he realizes he has not lost any weight. And says dieting does not work and goes back to dong what he was doing before.

As other people have posted, and posted extremely well. The story of Sam Hinkie and the 76ers is not finished yet. His deals will be effecting the 76ers for years to come, in the positive.
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Post#13 » by Eyeamok » Fri Sep 23, 2016 7:31 pm

RealGM Articles wrote:Sam Hinkie’s a half-ironic folk hero these days. Christian Clemenson as Che, Steve Jobs bracketed by six inches of scare quotes. Jerry and Bryan Colangelo running your show will make anyone nostalgic for their predecessors—imagine hiring for a difficult job in a highly competitive field and thinking the most qualified candidate... is my son—but a 7,000-word Lincoln-misquoting burst of eccentricity does not make an eccentric, and Hinkie’s approach to team construction wasn’t postmodern so much as it was cribbed from the mind of a 2K-addicted teen. Any hack with a third grader’s grasp of probability can enact a radical teardown: strip a team for parts and ride a bunch of fringe-professional twentysomethings to the top of the lottery. That Hinkie coated this approach in the veneer of next-level, data-driven strategery didn’t make it any more sophisticated. (Creating cap space can be a synonym for not signing good players.) He wasn’t the first person to think of it; he was just the first to get such a doozy of a mandate from ownership. 
Even as a blunt polemic, Hinkie’s approach failed. He biffed most of those lotto selections, taking Michael Carter-Williams over Steven Adams and Giannis Antetokounmpo, and Jahlil Okafor over Kristaps Porzingis. (His 2014 draft is still tagged with a TBA because Joel Embiid and Dario Sarić have yet to play an NBA game.) Drafting is tricky and even the league’s best executives embarrass themselves from time to time, but more disconcerting than Hinkie’s blunders was the fact that most of his picks didn’t jibe with his purported philosophy. If the central tenet of The Process was the acquisition of young stars, why did Hinkie take polished prospects with defined ceilings instead of boom-or-bust freaks? No one knew for sure in 2013 if Giannis was going to become anything more than a ludicrous athlete who wasn’t quite a basketball player, but the Sixers had nothing to lose. Instead they took Carter-Williams, who turned 22 before the season started. Porzingis had moderate Dirk Nowitzki buzz, and Hinkie chose a back-to-the-basket sieve in Okafor.
It doesn’t take much, in sportsworld, to receive more credit than you deserve. Shane Battier has gotten a lot of mileage out of a senator’s smile and liking The Big Lebowski. Joe Maddon is treated like the Allen Ginsberg of baseball management because he’s a whit less crustily authoritarian than Buck Showalter. Connor Barwin’s interest in bands Pitchfork was lauding a decade ago—late-era Animal Collective is apparently “experimental psychedelia”—is met with delighted bafflement. 
There’s some the dog can talk! condescension in this. The tone we take when discussing sports-folk who aren’t rock-dumb or don’t traffic exclusively in cliché is similar to the one we use to describe pornstars who read books and actors who namedrop Gloria Steinem. It’s a combination of surprise and overenthusiastic congratulation. It betrays that we expect them to be idiots with bad taste in the first place.
I guess we expect general managers and team presidents to be smarter than players and coaches—they are vaguely bookish men who deal with money, after all—but most of them are Bill Lumbergh-Norman Dale hybrids, alternating between bromide salad and ass-covering executive-ese. Half of them are incompetents, making mistakes not just at a granular level, but in terms of their overall approach. They overpay veterans, reach in the draft, hire mediocre retread coaches, and misunderstand basic team construction. They talk about how much the franchise will improve this year, its bright future, and we don’t believe them. What they’ve done definitely isn’t going to work. We’ve seen it not work tens of times before.
So when someone arrives announcing they’re going to take a novel approach that flatters the sensibilities of the NBA Reddit crowd and assemble an analytics team that includes literal neuroscientists and Navy SEALs—it floors some and at least piques the interest of others who have watched decades of Ernie Grunfeld and Billy King not switching their styles up despite repeated failure. There were skeptics when the Sixers hired Sam Hinkie, but most everyone agreed that he was—the lack of specificity is pointed here—up to stuff.
As it turned out, seeming like he was up to stuff was about all Hinkie was good at. He didn’t talk to the press, entrusting Brett Brown with articulating the organization’s vision. This was ostensibly because Brown is the superior communicator, but it also created a mystique. Hinkie was a distant figure throughout his Sixers tenure, frequently discussed but never spoken to. It wasn’t difficult to imagine him strung out in some NORAD base setup with garbled Matrix text dripping down hundreds of screens. He didn’t discourage the impression, anyway. That old chestnut about opening your mouth and removing all doubt that you’re a fool applies to geniuses too: if people think you might be one, don’t contradict them by talking. Hinkie made some decent trades, but the moves that burnished his legend were the inscrutable ones: what the hell was he planning to do with all those second-round picks? 
The mystique evaporated as it became clear that Hinkie didn’t know what he was doing. It turns out it’s hard to develop young big men when you don’t sign anyone to get them the ball, and that building through the draft is, no matter how many MIT and Stanford grads you put on the task, not a science. As Hinkie’s errors piled up, he became more legible as a guy who was making himself seem important by making his job more complicated than it needed to be. He was, finally, just terrible at choosing which basketball players to hire. The league grew impatient with his hapless long game, pushed the Sixers to hire Jerry Colangelo, and Hinkie left the organization a few months later.
Bryan Colangelo has never been an impressive personnel man. He’s a known quantity with an extensive track record as one of those unexciting Lumbergh-Dales. He has Ben Simmons and a bunch of cap space and the consensus is he’ll probably, somewhere along the line, screw this project up in a way that’s familiar. He’ll trade lottery picks for some past-it star or spend too much on a Tyreke Evans type. If and when this happens, we’ll feel as if we’ve seen it coming, which will make it doubly aggravating.
What do we want from the people who run our sports teams? We want them to be great at everything, obviously—the aspects of the gig we understand and the unseen stuff we don’t—but beyond that, we want our anxieties assuaged. We want to know that things are being handled, that there’s a plan and several contingency plans, that there’s a capable group of advisers in place and they’re crunching numbers and watching tape and scouting Europe. But we want to be fooled, too. We want to think that if everyone involved makes the right decisions, their championship contention scheme will work. We want to believe all the chaos and luck that contributes to a title run can somehow be rendered irrelevant by competence. This isn’t possible, but we’re open to the illusion of it. Don’t R.C. Buford and Gregg Popovich seem slightly supernatural?
In other words, Sam Hinkie got one thing right. He seemed, for a little while, like he might be able to control what’s beyond control. He sold Philadelphia an absurd promise, which is what they asked for. Now that we know who he is, he can never get that thing right again. And the Sixers have to reckon with reality, as if waking from a dream.


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Post#14 » by stamp2 » Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:34 pm

This is god awful. What is even said about the future? Hinkie is far from perfect and there are lots of easy criticisms but this article says absolutely nothing. Not sure if the writer even understands the NBA or not...
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Post#15 » by smittybanton » Sat Sep 24, 2016 4:52 am

Editors at RealGm fell asleep at the switch. We are all dumber for this one.
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Post#16 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Sun Sep 25, 2016 12:37 pm

I couldn't even get through all this. Was the writer drunk? Were they trying to channel their inner Hunter S Thompson? This article came out generic and disparaging to say the least.
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Re: Thirty Futures: Philadelphia 76ers 

Post#17 » by PickMeUpASixer » Wed Sep 28, 2016 2:26 pm

Joe Maddon is treated like the Allen Ginsberg of baseball management because he’s a whit less crustily authoritarian than Buck Showalter. Connor Barwin’s interest in bands Pitchfork was lauding a decade ago—late-era Animal Collective is apparently “experimental psychedelia”—is met with delighted bafflement.


Is this english? I know RealGM doesn't edit their articles, but do the writers even read it themselves before it gets published? I wanted to blast you for a lack of a coherent argument or any sense of perspective, but I can't get over the special ed level writing to start on what you feebly tried to communicate.
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Re: Thirty Futures: Philadelphia 76ers 

Post#18 » by oa7goat4sho » Thu Sep 29, 2016 3:40 pm

Pathetic article. Obviously biased, preconcieved, immature, unstructured and badly written... What is worse is that the writer seems to have tried really hard.

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