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Hating The Warriors 

Post#1 » by RealGM Articles » Wed May 2, 2018 7:48 pm

Hating the Golden State Warriors has become popular. It is also natural: they are the best team in the NBA, possibly the best in all of organized global sports, and have been for some time. Save for one weird couple of weeks in June of 2016, a year in which cultural results generally came to us via the looking glass, Silicon Valley’s resident basketball team have been champions and unstoppable winners since Steve Kerr took their head coaching reigns four years ago. With a 2-0 lead over the New Orleans Pelicans in the second round of the Western Conference Playoffs, and with spiritual leader Steph Curry returning to the roster, their run of glory appears to be extremely intact, with indefinite years remaining. 


Loving the Warriors, as such, is also quite popular. Greatness is a typically a love/hate affair, especially when regionalism and misplaced ideology—the key drivers of fandom—come into play. As an individual human being subject to these drivers and to many other forces, I fall far beyond the line dividing these two feelings, and deep into the wells of hatred. The Golden State Warriors, a professional basketball team, now do nearly as much every spring to validate my cynicism and fill my chest with unproductive malice as any recent breakup, dissonant conversation with my parents, political or professional disappointment has. They are my least favorite professional sports franchise, and I have to look back more than a decade to think of a team that even comes close. 


It wasn’t always this way! In 2013, when Curry scored 54 points at Madison Square Garden? Amidst the Warriors’ third winning season in 20 years? When they were coached by Mark Jackson and precariously reliant on the composure of Harrison Barnes and Jarrett Jack, and on the luggish versatility of an Andrew Bogut, who we didn’t yet know held insane and dangerous political beliefs? That was one of the most lovable teams of my sort-of-adult existence. I am among the many who remember feeling new life as that squad rose from anonymity, but who now feel that all rising NBA talents are so oppressed by their current dominance so to cause feelings of anonymity amongst aspiring, talented, and even well-directed comers. They are a heavy blanket draped over the sun. 


The Warriors have become the thing they had to fight against, but they have morphed into it in such spectacularly earth-burning fashion that their arc creates a sentiment that transcends the usual jadedness that all upstarts-become-destroyers inspire. They are a monolith of a brightness that quashes all other postseason light. Their last true challenger was the Oklahoma City Thunder, led by Kevin Durant in the 2016 Western Conference Finals. That team put the Warriors in a 3-1 series hole they barely recovered from, before facing LeBron James and the Cleveland Cavaliers in a weird wormhole that they lost in, but of course their current mission to be so unreasonably good that they erase the recollection of said wormhole is going swimmingly. The Warriors are on a path to render all their past failures immemorable. They are playing basketball so well that it might lobotomize the history of the game.


Kevin Durant is, of course, no longer an enemy to their conquest, but part of it. It is unclear whether LeBron himself is responsible for igniting the dark heart of the organization to such an extent that any semblance of NBA parity is considered a company failure, but in any event, something happened in the Bay that made the notion of failure seem like a disease so cancerous and scary that the concept of competition had to be elided, not faced. “Purity” is a quite illusory concept, in sports as it is anywhere else, but anyone attempting to apply it to the 2017-18 Warriors faces a particularly uphill task. The fusion of Durant, likely one of the twenty best players the sport has ever seen, to an already historically effective team has been a boon to all dispiriting “rich get richer” narratives. 


Durant, as the joiner-on, places himself directly in the crosshairs of all who dislike said narratives. He has no meaningful connection to the Mark Jackson Warriors, eschewing the possibility of his own potential homegrown dynasty for the option of joining Curry’s. Between the two of them and Klay Thompson, the Warriors have three of the greatest shooters of all-time, making for an amount of floor spacing that I personally classify as “an abomination.” 


It is not so much how effective Durant makes the Warriors that irks so many, though, as it is the way he carries himself as he does so. His astonishingly naked transmutation from darling to heel has made for a rather convenient character to sink all negative Warriors-related feelings into. (To be sure, Draymond Green’s extra-physical behaviors and frequent trash-talking—the latter being perhaps the most admirable output of all things Warriors, to be extra sure—are an easy target, too). KD’s gracelessness as he has transitioned into higher prestige, on the wings of a team that was already there, is among the easiest of all modern sports targets, and he is always making the target even larger. 


The saltiness Durant exhibits on social media, in the press, and seemingly everywhere else, suggests an incapacity to exist parallel to the possibility of criticism of him. The self-righteousness he flashes in his self-designed, embarrassingly Millennial war against his haters with 22 Twitter followers makes for a document of modern celebrity that bends the parameters of fandom in previously unseen ways. He is a man who possesses more basketball ability than Michael Jordan and nearly all of his pettiness, too, but who somehow comports himself with the inverse amount of Jordan’s swagger. Defending his new ethos is one of the more complicated obstacle courses of idolatry within my entire sports memory. I tip my hat to those who embrace the challenge, though I have yet to witness anyone do it without simply wearing the black hat too, and relishing in the same bounty that Durant moved to Northern California to sink into.  


Lobbing mean words at Durant and his team is what my own basketball love now gets reduced to every year, once the fatalism of their playoff power starts to settle in. At first I fight through the inevitability of their conquest by speculating about which teams—the Pelicans, the Houston Rockets—might beat them; about the various unlikely strategic miracles that might solve the impossible puzzle. Then, when those conjectures fail as the Warriors' proof reasserts itself, I take the shape of a cranky uncle with alarming speed, hurling obscenities at referees from my recliner as I mine through box scores for telling discrepancies, eagerly developing conspiracy outlines shadow-handed by ex-commissioner David Stern. The Warriors, in other words, are aging me more aggressively than any team ever has. They show me the demises of things I didn’t even know that I loved. And I am beginning to believe that they will never end.

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Re: Hating The Warriors 

Post#2 » by NBARocks » Thu May 3, 2018 8:57 am

People hate the Warriors not because they're so very good, but because they're already so good yet they still get so much ref help. I guess, if you'll trace the history of it, it all goes back to the NBA refusing to call Draymond Green's kicking antics until Lebron forced them to do so. Before that time, every bandwagoner and odd random fan cheered for the Warriors. Now most of those fans have turned against them because the team has turned unlikable. Draymond Green has become unlikable with his constant complaining and mouth breathing antics. Steph Curry with his mouthguard throwing antics has become unlikable. Even Steve Kerr with his fake humble yet proud persona has become unlikable. The whole team except for Klay and Iguodala has become unlikable.

But if you're really going to examine it, KD joined the team. It was inevitable they'd become the new Miami Heat.
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Post#3 » by Bball0000 » Fri May 4, 2018 7:12 am

Oh come off it. Haters gonna hate, simple as that, hate whoevers at the top. Don't hate, appreciate the greatness you get to witness.

Blame KD? Blame LeBron, Wade, Bosh, Ray Allen. Blame Magic Worthy and Kareem. Blame McHale Bird and Parish. Blame Drexler, Olajuwon, and Barkley. Blame KG, Pierce, Ray Allen, Rondo......

"Bay that made the notion of failure seem like a disease so cancerous and scary that the concept of competition had to be elided, not faced."

LOLOLOLOLOL. What the heck do you want them to do? Say, oh no, let's not get KD so that there's more parity in the league :lol: It's big business, you actually make more money if you're winning. You're gonna go do whatever you can to win. And as a Warrior fan who lived through BOTTOM DWELLERS (with no "sympathy" from fellow teams lol), this pursuit of dominance is exactly what I LOVE about the Warriors front office and Joe Lacob. They've built a standard and culture of excellence. Which is why players resign and free agents flock to the Bay now (as opposed to once overpaying for FA scrubs like Corey Maggette).

Warriors haters are simply whiners who are jealous of success. They want to ''spread the wealth' instead of upping their game. That's cool, do you, or take it up with the NBA salary cap lol.

Warriors have just done it better, they made incredibly smart draft (Curry, Klay, Draymond ALL draft picks) and front office moves (proactively and by passing on trades - large part thanks to the great Jerry West), they play the right way, their players have good character and are tough competitors. They've changed the NBA landscape, increased ratings, etc. If anything, the rest of the league should be Thanking them for reminding everyone how basketball should be played -- as a team, with high iq, with fun and passion, good passing, good defense, competitiveness, skilled, standard of excellence, and trust and loyalty to each other.

"don't hate, congratulate, then emulate"


If any fans or any franchise deserve this golden era of success, it's Dub fans. They sold out and roared Oracle even when the team was trash. Get used to it, the Warriors are the next Spurs, the next Patriots. :D
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Re: Hating The Warriors 

Post#4 » by delsol650 » Fri May 4, 2018 4:19 pm

NBARocks wrote:People hate the Warriors not because they're so very good, but because they're already so good yet they still get so much ref help. I guess, if you'll trace the history of it, it all goes back to the NBA refusing to call Draymond Green's kicking antics until Lebron forced them to do so. Before that time, every bandwagoner and odd random fan cheered for the Warriors. Now most of those fans have turned against them because the team has turned unlikable. Draymond Green has become unlikable with his constant complaining and mouth breathing antics. Steph Curry with his mouthguard throwing antics has become unlikable. Even Steve Kerr with his fake humble yet proud persona has become unlikable. The whole team except for Klay and Iguodala has become unlikable.

But if you're really going to examine it, KD joined the team. It was inevitable they'd become the new Miami Heat.


:crazy: 1 time curry throws a mouthpiece because he was so tired of being manhandled by every defender, grabbed pulled tugged scratched etc. that he finally had enough cause the refs were not calling Lebron type fouls for him. Hell, you breathe on Lebron and it's automatic foul kinda reminds me of the Jordan Kobe type ref officiating for them where they were the best already yet the NBA made sure they stay that way. Curry is one of the few allstars that gets manhandled by defenses daily but doesn't get the calls like the James Harden, Chris Pauls, Lowrys where they bump you on purpose then act like they got shot or hit by the defender then go to the free throw line 10-15 times a game. Go look at the stats and see what other star doesn't get to the line or get fouls called for him at least as Curry does, a Player who's an MVP, champion and one of the NBA's most popular players yet doesn't get the same amount of foul calls in his favor.

Lebron and Cavs' cried and lobbied to get Draymond suspended after he purposely did the Kobe walk over a down man thinking he can get away with it. Draymond not suspended I bet you that series would have had a different ending, and Lebron knew that.

Fans haven't turned against them, yall just became haters, hate us cause you can't be us.

Talk about constant complaining and bitching look at Chris Paul, he doesn't that 24/7 during the whole game. Lebron cries to the refs all game too, just stop it.All players lobby to the refs non-stop so does your favorite team and players.

KD wanted to get away from Westbrook, he got tired of that ISO ball crap and actually wanted to play in a TEAM centric offense and defense. Not 1 play russes turn then next play its KD's turn offsenive plays..

YOu don't think the HEATLES got all the bandwagoners as well? Same as the Celtics when the had the 4 all stars. Please just stop,
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Re: Hating The Warriors 

Post#5 » by Badbobby » Fri May 4, 2018 11:37 pm

Omg thank you. You just articulated everything I’ve been feeling for the past couple of years.

Looking back, even though I didn’t love them, I was really able to appreciate the team that grew from the Mark Jackson Warriors, and was happy to let them romp all over the league to 73 wins. Adding a salty Durant to the winningest regular season team ever ruined both the fun of the league’s competition and my ability to continue to appreciate the Warriors.

I hate the Warriors. Down with the Warriors.
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Re: Hating The Warriors 

Post#6 » by ripwesternny » Sat May 5, 2018 1:08 am

The warriors have undoubtedly revolutionized the game. When I first saw Curry draining half court shots and Thompson off the catch, I knew they were special. I never honestly thought we would see the day when three pointers would be considered high percentage shots but it definitely makes it fun to watch. I also never thought Thompson and curry would ever get to this level on draft day but they've proven the haters wrong.
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Re: Hating The Warriors 

Post#7 » by Unwell » Sat May 5, 2018 7:43 am

I liked the Warriors for how they drafted. Jerry West and the front office picked up anbackcourt that was, because of their dads, raised in the NBA. I just didn’t like Durant and I think praising Durant or what the Warriors did is bad for the sport. It’s more than just them pretty much ending post play forever or making things not as fun but how is it ok to go to the 73-9 team that keeps beating you in the playoffs? Durant couldn’t get past Lebron or Curry so he joined one and made the league not as entertaining. It would’ve been cool had he went anywhere except the Cavs or the Warriors. No more competitive spirit in it all and no matter what you do, it’s ok as long as you win. We as fans are pretty disappointing for cheering that on. Kids are going to start losing on JV teams and just transfer schools after the game to play for winning teams. Smh. If Lebron would’ve went to the Celtics with KG, Rondo, Ray Allen, Paul Pierce, and all of those guys how would that be cool? You join the team you can’t get past after they embarrass you? I remember Lebron joined the Heat, who wasn’t a contender with the reigning MVP and the greatest record of all time and they literally booed Lebron and the Heat the whole season in every arena. Lol! We cheer Durant like he led his own team to a title though and then compare him to Lebron when dude couldn’t get past Steph even after having him down 3-1!!!!
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Re: Hating The Warriors 

Post#8 » by Unwell » Sat May 5, 2018 8:03 am

Bball0000 wrote:Oh come off it. Haters gonna hate, simple as that, hate whoevers at the top. Don't hate, appreciate the greatness you get to witness.

Blame KD? Blame LeBron, Wade, Bosh, Ray Allen. Blame Magic Worthy and Kareem. Blame McHale Bird and Parish. Blame Drexler, Olajuwon, and Barkley. Blame KG, Pierce, Ray Allen, Rondo......

"Bay that made the notion of failure seem like a disease so cancerous and scary that the concept of competition had to be elided, not faced."

LOLOLOLOLOL. What the heck do you want them to do? Say, oh no, let's not get KD so that there's more parity in the league :lol: It's big business, you actually make more money if you're winning. You're gonna go do whatever you can to win. And as a Warrior fan who lived through BOTTOM DWELLERS (with no "sympathy" from fellow teams lol), this pursuit of dominance is exactly what I LOVE about the Warriors front office and Joe Lacob. They've built a standard and culture of excellence. Which is why players resign and free agents flock to the Bay now (as opposed to once overpaying for FA scrubs like Corey Maggette).

Warriors haters are simply whiners who are jealous of success. They want to ''spread the wealth' instead of upping their game. That's cool, do you, or take it up with the NBA salary cap lol.

Warriors have just done it better, they made incredibly smart draft (Curry, Klay, Draymond ALL draft picks) and front office moves (proactively and by passing on trades - large part thanks to the great Jerry West), they play the right way, their players have good character and are tough competitors. They've changed the NBA landscape, increased ratings, etc. If anything, the rest of the league should be Thanking them for reminding everyone how basketball should be played -- as a team, with high iq, with fun and passion, good passing, good defense, competitiveness, skilled, standard of excellence, and trust and loyalty to each other.

"don't hate, congratulate, then emulate"


If any fans or any franchise deserve this golden era of success, it's Dub fans. They sold out and roared Oracle even when the team was trash. Get used to it, the Warriors are the next Spurs, the next Patriots. :D



Nah, can’t blame any of those players for what Durant and the Warriors have done. The only thing close to what Durant just did was when Ray Allen left the Celtics to join the Heat. He was out of his prime and the Celtics didn’t want him. The Heat weren’t 73-9. Ray Allen wasn’t Durant. I love the Warriors and the way they drafted but it’s bigger than just liking some players. This changes everything when we cheer that move with Durant on. It’s not hate about a team winning or good basketball. It’s a dude joining the 73-9 team that just put him out the playoffs dancing in his face after having them down 3-1. That’s never been done before. People use the Heat as a measuring tool and that’s crazy because the Heat weren’t the best team in the league and Lebron didn’t go Tom the rival he couldn’t get past. He beat Toronto (Bosh) and Heat (Wade) in the playoffs. It would only be the same if Lebron had lost two years in a row to the Celtics and then joined them. The Miami Heat weren’t even the best team in the league when Lebron went. The Spurs, the Celtics, the Lakers, and the Pacers were all still better TEAMS. Lets say for the sake of argument that Lebron and the Heat did the exact same thing that Durant me Golden State did....if that’s the case then why would the Heat and Lebron get booed in every arena but the Warriors get cheered for it? Think about that....this ain’t about free agency; it’s about a complete lack of competitive spirit and is having to watch a watered down league because Durant was scared he would never get a title. There has never been another 73-9 team, there has never been another situation like this. It’s not hate....it’s liking the sport more than a team or player.
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Re: Hating The Warriors 

Post#9 » by Bball0000 » Mon May 7, 2018 9:23 am

Unwell wrote:
Bball0000 wrote:Oh come off it. Haters gonna hate, simple as that, hate whoevers at the top. Don't hate, appreciate the greatness you get to witness.

Blame KD? Blame LeBron, Wade, Bosh, Ray Allen. Blame Magic Worthy and Kareem. Blame McHale Bird and Parish. Blame Drexler, Olajuwon, and Barkley. Blame KG, Pierce, Ray Allen, Rondo......

"Bay that made the notion of failure seem like a disease so cancerous and scary that the concept of competition had to be elided, not faced."

LOLOLOLOLOL. What the heck do you want them to do? Say, oh no, let's not get KD so that there's more parity in the league :lol: It's big business, you actually make more money if you're winning. You're gonna go do whatever you can to win. And as a Warrior fan who lived through BOTTOM DWELLERS (with no "sympathy" from fellow teams lol), this pursuit of dominance is exactly what I LOVE about the Warriors front office and Joe Lacob. They've built a standard and culture of excellence. Which is why players resign and free agents flock to the Bay now (as opposed to once overpaying for FA scrubs like Corey Maggette).

Warriors haters are simply whiners who are jealous of success. They want to ''spread the wealth' instead of upping their game. That's cool, do you, or take it up with the NBA salary cap lol.

Warriors have just done it better, they made incredibly smart draft (Curry, Klay, Draymond ALL draft picks) and front office moves (proactively and by passing on trades - large part thanks to the great Jerry West), they play the right way, their players have good character and are tough competitors. They've changed the NBA landscape, increased ratings, etc. If anything, the rest of the league should be Thanking them for reminding everyone how basketball should be played -- as a team, with high iq, with fun and passion, good passing, good defense, competitiveness, skilled, standard of excellence, and trust and loyalty to each other.

"don't hate, congratulate, then emulate"


If any fans or any franchise deserve this golden era of success, it's Dub fans. They sold out and roared Oracle even when the team was trash. Get used to it, the Warriors are the next Spurs, the next Patriots. :D



Nah, can’t blame any of those players for what Durant and the Warriors have done. The only thing close to what Durant just did was when Ray Allen left the Celtics to join the Heat. He was out of his prime and the Celtics didn’t want him. The Heat weren’t 73-9. Ray Allen wasn’t Durant. I love the Warriors and the way they drafted but it’s bigger than just liking some players. This changes everything when we cheer that move with Durant on. It’s not hate about a team winning or good basketball. It’s a dude joining the 73-9 team that just put him out the playoffs dancing in his face after having them down 3-1. That’s never been done before. People use the Heat as a measuring tool and that’s crazy because the Heat weren’t the best team in the league and Lebron didn’t go Tom the rival he couldn’t get past. He beat Toronto (Bosh) and Heat (Wade) in the playoffs. It would only be the same if Lebron had lost two years in a row to the Celtics and then joined them. The Miami Heat weren’t even the best team in the league when Lebron went. The Spurs, the Celtics, the Lakers, and the Pacers were all still better TEAMS. Lets say for the sake of argument that Lebron and the Heat did the exact same thing that Durant me Golden State did....if that’s the case then why would the Heat and Lebron get booed in every arena but the Warriors get cheered for it? Think about that....this ain’t about free agency; it’s about a complete lack of competitive spirit and is having to watch a watered down league because Durant was scared he would never get a title. There has never been another 73-9 team, there has never been another situation like this. It’s not hate....it’s liking the sport more than a team or player.



And yet... if you were a Warriors fan... you woulda LOVED the move ('cause it makes your team better - which is the goal). If you were a Warriors fan, you'd cheer this team every second and wouldn't care about parity or "competitive spirit" of the game. And most fans would.

Don't hate the player, hate the game. Be mad at the NBA for letting 4 all stars be able to be on one team. It's not KD's job or the Warriors job to make sure "everyone else has a shot 'cause it's better for the game / the fans". They're getting paid multi-millions to WIN. It's business. Parity is the NBA's job (salary cap), not any team or player's responsibility.

And cmon, KD paid his dues. Loyalty to OKC, post-stupid Harden trade, and having to deal with Westbrook for what 7 or 8 yrs? If anyone earned the right to buy a ring, it was KD. While Lebron was team hopping and playing GM, KD played the good guy and did things the right way. I completely understand his desire to get a ring, no matter what. Guys like Barkley, Stockton, Malone, R. Miller, still have that attached to their legacy.

Great, hate the Warriors, and hate all the other dynasties. Do you hate the Lakers, Celtics, and Spurs too 'cause they were "too good"? Lol. It's a ridiculous position to ask a team or a player to think about the parity of the league. This is their life and they're there to win no matter what. Warriors just pulled it off better than others. This golden era is just karma for all the terrible years Warriors fans had to endure. Yet Warriors fans didn't cry about it, they knew the team sucked 'cause of a crappy owner.

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