Re: The Superstar Loan: A Giannis For Tatum One-Year Trade

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The Superstar Loan: A Giannis For Tatum One-Year Trade 

Post#1 » by RealGM Articles » Mon May 19, 2025 4:27 pm

When a superstar player like Giannis Antetokounmpo reaches the end of a possible title window with his incumbent team, the conventional pathway dictates a clean break—he gets traded for a haul of assets, and both parties move on permanently. Thanks for the title and the memories. Goodbye. See you at the return game with the tribute video and at the jersey retirement. But what if there was another way? What if the player could contend for a title elsewhere while his team is busily rebuilding its roster in waiting for his return?


The Golden State Warriors inadvertently pioneered this concept with their "gap year" in 2019-20. When Kevin Durant departed for Brooklyn, Klay Thompson tore his ACL in the previous season's Finals, and Stephen Curry broke his left hand early in the season, the Warriors' dynasty appeared to be collapsing. Yet their front office leveraged this temporary competitive void, accruing the lottery picks that became James Wiseman and Jonathan Kuminga, along with Andrew Wiggins. By 2022, the Warriors were champions again.


Now, imagine applying a deliberate version of this strategy to the Milwaukee Bucks and Boston Celtics through an unprecedented arrangement: trading Giannis Antetokounmpo to the Celtics for Jayson Tatum—not as a permanent exchange, but as a one-season loan, with Tatum serving as collateral as he recovers from his Achilles surgery. The Celtics would compensate Milwaukee with draft assets for facilitating this revolutionary transaction.


As the 2025 offseason approaches, the Celtics and Bucks find themselves at fascinatingly different inflection points. Boston possesses a championship-caliber supporting cast suddenly without their perennial All-NBA forward at its core. The Bucks face the opposite predicament—Antetokounmpo stands increasingly isolated on an aging, expensive roster further compromised by Damian Lillard's Achilles injury.


These Eastern Conference powers could solve each other's problems through a single, innovative transaction.


The $70 Miracle


What makes this proposal financially viable is a remarkable salary fluke: Tatum will earn $54,126,450 next season, while Antetokounmpo will make $54,126,380—a difference of exactly $70.


This microscopic gap creates a unique opportunity for the Celtics, who are constrained by second-apron restrictions. Boston could acquire Antetokounmpo without dropping below the first apron, allowing them to preserve whichever combination they choose of Jaylen Brown, Derrick White, Jrue Holiday, Al Horford, Kristaps Porzingis, and Payton Pritchard. The Celtics would then strategically drop below the second apron during the 2026 offseason—something they were already planning—to facilitate Antetokounmpo's return to Milwaukee and reacquire Tatum.


The Value Proposition


For Boston, the central question becomes existential: How much is one guaranteed season of Antetokounmpo worth in draft capital? For Milwaukee, what level of compensation would make a material difference in their ability to remake their roster around their returning superstar, rather than simply trading him for a permanent reset? For Antetokounmpo, does he want to join a rival team for just one season? And does he have confidence that the Bucks will be meaningfully better upon his return?


The Bucks would gain valuable breathing room—draft assets from Boston, and potentially their own lottery pick (the Pelicans own swap rights)—all while knowing their franchise cornerstone would return. Boston would maintain their championship window despite temporary adversity, essentially renting an MVP-caliber player during what would otherwise be a lost season. Giannis gets to compete for a title in the middle of his prime while essentially remaining with the Bucks.


The Accidental Precedent


Despite the uncertainties and unprecedented nature of such an arrangement, the elegant symmetry of this solution deserves serious consideration by all parties. In fact, this is what unintentionally happened in 2010 when LeBron James left the Cleveland Cavaliers to sign with the Miami Heat. LeBron reached the Finals during all four of his seasons with the Heat and won the title in two of them. Meanwhile, the Cavaliers accrued three first overall picks and put themselves in position to reach the Finals during the next four seasons upon LeBron's return in 2014 with a far better supporting cast around him than the one he left in 2010.


In July 2010, no party involved—from LeBron to Dan Gilbert to Pat Riley—would have agreed to such an arrangement, but it undisputably worked out splendidly for all.


The Giannis loan concept represents a potential paradigm shift in how NBA franchises navigate the delicate balance between present contention and future flexibility—allowing a superstar and his original team to temporarily part ways for their mutual long-term benefit.


This specific scenario involving Giannis, Milwaukee, and Boston is highly unlikely, but the accelerated timelines of teams in the second-apron era make the possibility of something like it in the future a legitimate one.

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Re: The Superstar Loan: A Giannis For Tatum One-Year Trade 

Post#2 » by puja21 » Mon May 19, 2025 5:11 pm

RealGM Articles wrote:Despite the uncertainties and unprecedented nature of such an arrangement, the elegant symmetry of this solution deserves serious consideration by all parties.


This is the most unserious idea I've seen in a long time -- blatant violation of the CBA so of course isn't being "considered" by anyone

It's covered under Article 13.2 -- this would be considered an unauthorized future agreement

"At no time shall there be any agreements or transactions of any kind (whether disclosed or undisclosed to the NBA), express or implied, oral or written, or promises, undertakings, representations, commitments, inducements, assurances of intent, or understandings of any kind (whether disclosed or undisclosed to the NBA), between a player (or any person or entity controlled by, related to, or acting with authority on behalf of, such player) and any Team (or Team Affiliate): concerning any future Renegotiation, Extension, or other amendment of an existing Player Contract, or entry into a new Player Contract"

This includes "contingent trades" - meaning you cannot agree to "swap someone back." The first trade of these 2 players in this league season (when their salaries match) would be considered one transaction and any subsequent future moves cannot be agreed to contingent on this first trade.

This was well-documented (publicly) several times in each of the last 2 CBAs and the language hasn't changed since. Specifically, when The Clippers and Celtics were negotiating to send both Doc and KG to LA, the deal they agreed on was blocked because "Doc for picks" and "KG for DJ" had to be separate trades and once the league decided they weren't truly independent it's over.

RealGM Articles wrote:In fact, this is what unintentionally happened in 2010 when LeBron James left the Cleveland Cavaliers to sign with the Miami Heat. In July 2010, no party involved—from LeBron to Dan Gilbert to Pat Riley—would have agreed to such an arrangement, but it undisputably worked out splendidly for all.


Sure it happened but it wasn't a "loan" so you'd have to treat this situation as "would Boston give Milwaukee Tatum permanently" and of course the answer is no 100x out of 100

RealGM Articles wrote:The Giannis loan concept represents a potential paradigm shift in how NBA franchises navigate the delicate balance between present contention and future flexibility—allowing a superstar and his original team to temporarily part ways for their mutual long-term benefit.
This specific scenario involving Giannis, Milwaukee, and Boston is highly unlikely, but the accelerated timelines of teams in the second-apron era make the possibility of something like it in the future a legitimate one.


It's 100% not possible in this CBA.

It's neither "serious" , "elegant" nor "legitimate" possibility -- and it doesn't describe a "potential paradigm shift"

No amount of overly wordy prose can make this a possibility until/unless it's changed in a future CBA
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Re: The Superstar Loan: A Giannis For Tatum One-Year Trade 

Post#3 » by gpoon » Wed May 21, 2025 11:54 am

This is the worst idea I have ever heard. All teams that are not contending would just Loan their starts to contending teams for a year and tank.
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Re: The Superstar Loan: A Giannis For Tatum One-Year Trade 

Post#4 » by boston_fan_ct » Sun May 25, 2025 1:26 pm

While you are at it allowing temporary trades why don't they add 4 and 5 point lines, eliminate traveling violations, fouling out, and goal tending and have the back board rotate at bonus times where the baskets are worth double. the possibilities are endless.
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Re: The Superstar Loan: A Giannis For Tatum One-Year Trade 

Post#5 » by Maf » Mon May 26, 2025 7:23 am

boston_fan_ct wrote:While you are at it allowing temporary trades why don't they add 4 and 5 point lines, eliminate traveling violations, fouling out, and goal tending and have the back board rotate at bonus times where the baskets are worth double. the possibilities are endless.


I thought they have already done. :o
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