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I like Shamet. Really good 3-point shooter that can step into the rotation right away as Book's backup. More shooting/scoring off the bench for us is a good thing. Would have liked to make the pick, not surprised we prefer immediate help though.
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Exactly what I had in mind to spell CP3 or Book. CP3/Payne wasn't really ideal. Great move
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JJ love shooters.
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Payne and Shamet will be and awesome 1-2 scoring punch off the bench to spell CP3 and Book
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Damkac wrote:JJ love shooters.
And the man can absolutely shoot it.
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Love this trade. Can never have too many elite shooters in todays NBA.
Ild rather someone who has proven to be a rotation player than taking a punt on someone at 29
Ild rather someone who has proven to be a rotation player than taking a punt on someone at 29
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DRK wrote:Love this trade. Can never have too many elite shooters in todays NBA.
Ild rather someone who has proven to be a rotation player than taking a punt on someone at 29
Shamet is still 24. So it's like drafting an older rookie at 29th, but who has proven skills in the NBA.
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Shamet's on ball playmaking really developed last year too to go along with his full speed catch and release shooting. Point shamet is a sight to behold
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I've liked Shamet for a while and wanted to get him when he was still on the Clippers. Pretty happy with this trade. Hopefully he keeps improving.
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Honestly its a solid trade....and i was a huge Carter fan.
Shamet is a pure SG with excellent court vision. Think of him as Booker-lite from a few seasons back. Excellent shooter (Both from 3 and mid-range), quick to get to the rim (Almost like Cam Payne), but also having legit passing skills and super solid court vision like Booker has coming from a SG. As mentioned his downside is his defense. He has a small frame and gets tossed around on D. I know we have taken other "Not good on D" guys and have transformed them (Ayton/Booker), but honestly i dont think Shamet has the frame to put on the weight that he will need to ever be considered a good defender, but thats ok. Now we have a guy in place for when booker rests, one that can still score and at a good pace. There wont be as much of a drop of bringing a guy off the bench.
Also frees up some cash so we can attempt to grab a better big than Frank. Adding at least 2 bigs will be a must with Saric out for the season, so spend some cash to get a big rebounding defensive C, someone like Whiteside or McGee (Playing with Booker with Team USA) or WCS (Played with Booker in Kentucky) or Noel.
But first and foremost we need to buy an early 2nd round pick and draft Neemias Queta. He was my pick at #29 even though damn near every mock has him in the mid 2nd round, and he is still my pick now that the word is that we seem to be interested in buying a 2nd round pick.
Shamet is a pure SG with excellent court vision. Think of him as Booker-lite from a few seasons back. Excellent shooter (Both from 3 and mid-range), quick to get to the rim (Almost like Cam Payne), but also having legit passing skills and super solid court vision like Booker has coming from a SG. As mentioned his downside is his defense. He has a small frame and gets tossed around on D. I know we have taken other "Not good on D" guys and have transformed them (Ayton/Booker), but honestly i dont think Shamet has the frame to put on the weight that he will need to ever be considered a good defender, but thats ok. Now we have a guy in place for when booker rests, one that can still score and at a good pace. There wont be as much of a drop of bringing a guy off the bench.
Also frees up some cash so we can attempt to grab a better big than Frank. Adding at least 2 bigs will be a must with Saric out for the season, so spend some cash to get a big rebounding defensive C, someone like Whiteside or McGee (Playing with Booker with Team USA) or WCS (Played with Booker in Kentucky) or Noel.
But first and foremost we need to buy an early 2nd round pick and draft Neemias Queta. He was my pick at #29 even though damn near every mock has him in the mid 2nd round, and he is still my pick now that the word is that we seem to be interested in buying a 2nd round pick.
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Kerrsed wrote:Honestly its a solid trade....and i was a huge Carter fan.
Shamet is a pure SG with excellent court vision. Think of him as Booker-lite from a few seasons back. Excellent shooter (Both from 3 and mid-range), quick to get to the rim (Almost like Cam Payne), but also having legit passing skills and super solid court vision like Booker has coming from a SG. As mentioned his downside is his defense. He has a small frame and gets tossed around on D. I know we have taken other "Not good on D" guys and have transformed them (Ayton/Booker), but honestly i dont think Shamet has the frame to put on the weight that he will need to ever be considered a good defender, but thats ok. Now we have a guy in place for when booker rests, one that can still score and at a good pace. There wont be as much of a drop of bringing a guy off the bench.
Also frees up some cash so we can attempt to grab a better big than Frank. Adding at least 2 bigs will be a must with Saric out for the season, so spend some cash to get a big rebounding defensive C, someone like Whiteside or McGee (Playing with Booker with Team USA) or WCS (Played with Booker in Kentucky) or Noel.
But first and foremost we need to buy an early 2nd round pick and draft Neemias Queta. He was my pick at #29 even though damn near every mock has him in the mid 2nd round, and he is still my pick now that the word is that we seem to be interested in buying a 2nd round pick.
My thoughts exactly
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We're getting a good one in Landry Shamet. After breaking down his game, here are three things he brings to the @Suns. https://t.co/dmK9931104 ?s=20
We're getting a good one in Landry Shamet. After breaking down his game, here are three things he brings to the @Suns. https://t.co/dmK9931104 ?s=20
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Better fit for us. Carter didn't see the court very much last year. Shamet can shoot and while he's not quite the dog Carter is on D (I do think that Carter is a bit overrated here), he does try and isn't a revolving door.
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Saberestar wrote:Crives wrote:Not sure I like this… isn’t shamet basically Jevon without defense? Hope we are getting a 2nd back
No, he is a clear upgrade.
He is taller than Jevon, a pure SG who can score a lot of threes. Elite shooter.
I think it is a very good trade.
Yeah I love Jevon but he's kind of been the odd man out. He'll work really well next to Harden though, because he can basically play shooting guard on offense while defending PG. Harden is essentially a PG in a shooting guards body, whereas Carter is a shooting guard in a PG's body. It's basically like that Eric Snow / Iverson backcourt, but then in reverse.
Shamet is a clear upgrade and could be our best shooter next year. He's averaging 40% from three for his career on good volume and had a season shooting 45% from three on 6 attempts per game. Suns just need him to hit his open shots off the bench while backing up Booker.
Let's be honest as well, as much as everyone loves the draft - the chances of getting a player of Shamet's caliber at #29 is not high (although he was a late first himself). Most players drafted that low are out of the league in a few years and the player we would have picked would likely not have contributed to another deep playoff run this season.
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So Suns traded two non-rotation players (Carter and 29th) for a rotation player. They freed up a roster spot for an extra rotational big man. They got rid of Carter's third-year contract. Unlikely the 29th selection sees the light of day on the court next season. Better for the Suns to put some rookies on two-way contracts.
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bigfoot wrote:So Suns traded two non-rotation players (Carter and 29th) for a rotation player. They freed up a roster spot for an extra rotational big man. They got rid of Carter's third-year contract. Unlikely the 29th selection sees the light of day on the court next season. Better for the Suns to put some rookies on two-way contracts.
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Yep, this is a great way to look at it.
I'm all for this trade. fwiw, our last pick at #29
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After thinking it over I like the trade. We weren't going to hit magic with our 29th pick and with Carter, I assumed would play more in the playoffs but hardly saw the floor. At least with Shamet who is roughly 3 inches taller has averaged 20 mpg in the playoffs over his last 3 years. Obviously our bench defense declines, but now we've added a reliable shooter that can knockdown threes at a 40% clip.
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24yo, so can look at him as the typical JJ-drafted old rookie, though most likely only for a single season. Not that bad if he's a contributor in the playoffs.
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sunsbg wrote:24yo, so can look at him as the typical JJ-drafted old rookie, though most likely only for a single season. Not that bad if he's a contributor in the playoffs.
Him being 3 inches taller than Carter is huge. Thats why he plays 20 mpg in the playoffs past 3 years he can bother shooters and also create his shot bit better then Jevon.