Was the Mavericks' decision to attempt to acquire Dwight/Deron/CP3 worth the risk?

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Re: Was the Mavericks' decision to attempt to acquire Dwight 

Post#2 » by LaRance » Mon Aug 5, 2013 7:00 am

A championship team should always attempt to win back to back championships. I hate when Gm's dismantle a team without giving the players the opportunity to win another championship
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Post#3 » by HeatRing2012 » Mon Aug 5, 2013 10:54 am

please the 2011 Mavs were the 2nd oldest team to ever win if... the oldest? 98 Bulls...

there was no chance they would've repeated with a lock out condensed season and all their 40 year olds trying to survive back2back2backs.
so their options were:
- re-sign everyone from the already by far oldest team in the league
- try to retool by swinging for the fences

when you look at how these post-championchip Mavs fared, you could make a pretty solid case that keeping the guys would've been a bad idea:
- Kidd and Peja are already retired.
- Stevenson and Haywood are physically done
- Barea and Chandler are battling constant nagging injuries
- Terry regressed drastically
on top of that you have Dirk struggling with injuries as well. he'll be healthy for the first time this year.
Marion is probably the only one who stayed on his level, and he was under contract anyway so they couldn't let him go anyway.
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Re: Was the Mavericks' decision to attempt to acquire Dwight 

Post#4 » by PDX_DL0 » Mon Aug 5, 2013 4:23 pm

I don't see how anyone can say no to this... its not like they blew up a young core in their prime. The Mavs were still competitive last year and if Dirk was healthy from day 1, they would've got that 8th spot. They didn't handicap themselves with bad contracts and still have flexibility to work with. They may not be a contender right now but they still have a decent squad. This season though, I would've tanked and I wouldn't care if Dirk would be happy with it. He's not going anywhere and he's not winning another ring anyway. Franchise > Individual players needs.
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Re: Was the Mavericks' decision to attempt to acquire Dwight 

Post#5 » by DangerCurtis » Mon Aug 5, 2013 4:26 pm

I'm not too sure at what cost this poll question is referring to. If it means to acquire said players as opposed to not acquiring them, then of course you go after them. They're the best players on the FA market; it's a no-brainer. If it means dismantling your title-contending team for said players, well, hind-sight bias says it was definitely not worth the risk.
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Re: Was the Mavericks' decision to attempt to acquire Dwight 

Post#6 » by vic » Mon Aug 5, 2013 7:06 pm

Dirk & Chandler were enough to reload around... Defense is undervalued... that's why 95% of GMs will never win a championship. They don't even "get it" when they happen to win it.
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Re: Was the Mavericks' decision to attempt to acquire Dwight 

Post#7 » by gold0259 » Mon Aug 5, 2013 7:39 pm

Dirk's window is closing fast. Mavs would do him a favor to allow hin to join a team with a chance to win. After the Mavs wond the finals they gave up. Cuban is running out of players to surround Dirk. Monta may help, but they cannot compete with Heat or Spurs & and many others in the league.
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Re: Was the Mavericks' decision to attempt to acquire Dwight 

Post#8 » by totalrekall » Mon Aug 5, 2013 8:21 pm

worth the risk? what was the alternative? not trying? whats the difference? they tried and had to go w/ plan D. should they have not tried and gone w/ plan D right away? this poll is a really stupid one
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Re: Was the Mavericks' decision to attempt to acquire Dwight 

Post#9 » by EddieJonesFan » Mon Aug 5, 2013 9:41 pm

Pointless attempt, there was no reason to think they were going to sign with them.
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Re: Was the Mavericks' decision to attempt to acquire Dwight 

Post#10 » by WC NBA Fan » Mon Aug 5, 2013 11:23 pm

Yes, it was worth the risk because they weren't going to win another title. They reached their limit with the championship team so the next best option was to let everyone go and create cap space. They didn't get the players they wanted but they aren't much worse with the roster they have now as opposed to the aging roster that they would have had they kept the team together.
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Re: Was the Mavericks' decision to attempt to acquire Dwight 

Post#11 » by P3JA for 3 » Tue Aug 6, 2013 1:56 am

EddieJonesFan wrote:Pointless attempt, there was no reason to think they were going to sign with them.


Kidd was old. Peja had left. Terry is slowed down. JJ had left. Chandler wanted too much. Got the ring, now restart. Better option I think.
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Re: Was the Mavericks' decision to attempt to acquire Dwight 

Post#12 » by P3JA for 3 » Tue Aug 6, 2013 1:58 am

HeatRing2012 wrote:please the 2011 Mavs were the 2nd oldest team to ever win if... the oldest? 98 Bulls...

there was no chance they would've repeated with a lock out condensed season and all their 40 year olds trying to survive back2back2backs.
so their options were:
- re-sign everyone from the already by far oldest team in the league
- try to retool by swinging for the fences

when you look at how these post-championchip Mavs fared, you could make a pretty solid case that keeping the guys would've been a bad idea:
- Kidd and Peja are already retired.
- Stevenson and Haywood are physically done
- Barea and Chandler are battling constant nagging injuries
- Terry regressed drastically
on top of that you have Dirk struggling with injuries as well. he'll be healthy for the first time this year.
Marion is probably the only one who stayed on his level, and he was under contract anyway so they couldn't let him go anyway.


you said it all. Butler was also always hurt.
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Re: Was the Mavericks' decision to attempt to acquire Dwight 

Post#13 » by Quadruple H » Tue Aug 6, 2013 2:16 pm

vic wrote:Dirk & Chandler were enough to reload around... Defense is undervalued... that's why 95% of GMs will never win a championship. They don't even "get it" when they happen to win it.



This.

I thought letting Chandler go was a big mistake om their part. If they're still trying to win with Dirk, Tyson was a perfect complimentary piece. Dirk needs a defensive anchor to take pressure off him on that end. When I heard they brought in Chris Kaman as his replacement I had to just shake my head.

If Dirk is gonna take less money next year as he's stated, they would have him and Chandler locked in, and would have some flexibility to add pieces around them.
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Re: Was the Mavericks' decision to attempt to acquire Dwight 

Post#14 » by HornetJail » Mon Aug 19, 2013 11:21 pm

They should've at least kept Chandler. If you're going to let the supporting pieces leave, let Barea and company go, but Chandler should've been a keeper.
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