Who is the best point guard from the 2009 NBA Draft class?
Who is the best point guard from the 2009 NBA Draft class?
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Who is the best point guard from the 2009 NBA Draft class?
1. Curry
2. Rubio
3. Holiday
4. Jennings
5. Lawson
2. Rubio
3. Holiday
4. Jennings
5. Lawson
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Someone really voted for Brandon Jennings LOL!!!
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I think it's unfair to say Curry because he's had one good season. Holliday is the true answer. Ty Lawson is a close second.
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LOL in what world has Curry had one good season? He was runner up for ROY, then the next year he improved his bulks stats and percentages. His third season he regressed a bit, but he played injured and then sat out the rest of the year.
This year he was the top #1 option on playoff teams behind only Durant, Harden and Lebron. Curry has had one bad season. #2 is up for debate between Jrue and Lawson with Rubio perhaps entering the conversation with better health.
This year he was the top #1 option on playoff teams behind only Durant, Harden and Lebron. Curry has had one bad season. #2 is up for debate between Jrue and Lawson with Rubio perhaps entering the conversation with better health.
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holliday has way more all around game than curry. he plays better D, he can rebound better, he has size. currys only thing is shooting.
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An the Minnesota Timberwolves could have had, in my opinion this order 1. Curry, 2. Rubio, 3. Lawson.
Yet the Wolves ended up with Johnny Flynn somehow. I still believe that Curry could have been a huge building block for the wolves. Jrue Holiday has already neem an All-star. I don't see Rubio as gods gift as most people do.
Yet the Wolves ended up with Johnny Flynn somehow. I still believe that Curry could have been a huge building block for the wolves. Jrue Holiday has already neem an All-star. I don't see Rubio as gods gift as most people do.
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With Rubio's poor shooting he should be averaging 15 assists a game, I don't see people infatuation with him. He is not worth a MAX extention either. We'll see how he does when healthy, but turnover rate too high, shooting 35% and 29% for 3. Jrue Holiday allstar, Steph Curry breaks 3 point record for season. Taking Rubio over Curry is like Taking Darko over Melo!
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Jrue plays the best all around game and is the best defender by far. Also the best passer and most athletic. It goes
Jrue
Curry
Rubio
Lawson
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Jennings
for me.
Jrue
Curry
Rubio
Lawson
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Jennings
for me.
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RoyalMajesty wrote:Someone really voted for Brandon Jennings LOL!!!
i think it was brandon jennings
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The argument that because Jrue plays better defense than Curry therefore he is better is absolutely absurd. That's like saying because Iggy is a better defender than Harden or Durant and as good or better at everything besides scoring, he is a better player. He does not do anything at such an elite level that it makes up for the difference between him and Curry on offense. Curry is a franchise player type talent, Jrue Holiday is a 3rd option on a contender. Curry's shooting may be the only area he's much better than Jrue, but he's so much better with such a deadly shot, that he alone can just break down defenses. The 3 point shot is one of the most important shots in basketball and Curry is head an shoulders above the rest of the league in this facet. He shoots higher % from the right corner than the average NBA player shoots at the rim! And being an efficient scorer is one of the top two most coveted things in a player (the second being a defensive anchor type player). The goal of the game is to outscore the opponent after all and Curry shoots almost 10% higher TS%. Sorry but Jrue's solid perimeter defense on one opposing teams player does not make up for the difference in the players offensively.
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Curry, Lawson, Holiday, Jennings, Rubio. That would be my order. No explanation needed!
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whocurrz wrote:The argument that because Jrue plays better defense than Curry therefore he is better is absolutely absurd. That's like saying because Iggy is a better defender than Harden or Durant and as good or better at everything besides scoring, he is a better player. He does not do anything at such an elite level that it makes up for the difference between him and Curry on offense. Curry is a franchise player type talent, Jrue Holiday is a 3rd option on a contender. Curry's shooting may be the only area he's much better than Jrue, but he's so much better with such a deadly shot, that he alone can just break down defenses. The 3 point shot is one of the most important shots in basketball and Curry is head an shoulders above the rest of the league in this facet. He shoots higher % from the right corner than the average NBA player shoots at the rim! And being an efficient scorer is one of the top two most coveted things in a player (the second being a defensive anchor type player). The goal of the game is to outscore the opponent after all and Curry shoots almost 10% higher TS%. Sorry but Jrue's solid perimeter defense on one opposing teams player does not make up for the difference in the players offensively.
While I agree that Curry is clearly superior offensively, Holiday may be the better all around player. After all, a team is on the offense for only about half the plays in each game! You can't ignore the other half. Great players like Jordan and Bryant did not started their careers as adequate defenders but developed those skills over time. GS thought it was important to add a defensive specialist in Igoudala to guard the other team's top offensive weapon (he is only an average shooter at best), but it still will be interesting to see whether Curry tries to become that more complete player using an offseason when he is healthy to improve his defensive skills.
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gold0259 wrote:An the Minnesota Timberwolves could have had, in my opinion this order 1. Curry, 2. Rubio, 3. Lawson.
Yet the Wolves ended up with Johnny Flynn somehow. I still believe that Curry could have been a huge building block for the wolves. Jrue Holiday has already neem an All-star. I don't see Rubio as gods gift as most people do.
The Lawson pick was traded before it was made... That being said it SUCKS missing out on Curry!! He wasnt a sure thing though, there were questions about where he'd play being a tweener. Rubio/Curry backcourt would be a lot of fun!
And can people take a break from making fun of MN for 3 seconds please... Remember Memphis Took Thabeet over all those PGs too! Make fun of Memphis for a while

My list would go
Curry - Dominant scorer
Jrue - Well rounded
Rubio - Best passer, will lead league in steals at some point
Lawson - I dont see enough of him to judge
Jennings - Ball hog chucker!
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Sadly these are the results I expected but they are wrong. You have to read the question.
Yes, Steph Curry is the best player (in my opinion) of the PGs drafted that year but this does not make him the best PG. Curry is at his best (which is prerry darn good!) when he plays OFF of the ball!
Yes, Steph Curry is the best player (in my opinion) of the PGs drafted that year but this does not make him the best PG. Curry is at his best (which is prerry darn good!) when he plays OFF of the ball!
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10acious wrote:whocurrz wrote:The argument that because Jrue plays better defense than Curry therefore he is better is absolutely absurd. That's like saying because Iggy is a better defender than Harden or Durant and as good or better at everything besides scoring, he is a better player. He does not do anything at such an elite level that it makes up for the difference between him and Curry on offense. Curry is a franchise player type talent, Jrue Holiday is a 3rd option on a contender. Curry's shooting may be the only area he's much better than Jrue, but he's so much better with such a deadly shot, that he alone can just break down defenses. The 3 point shot is one of the most important shots in basketball and Curry is head an shoulders above the rest of the league in this facet. He shoots higher % from the right corner than the average NBA player shoots at the rim! And being an efficient scorer is one of the top two most coveted things in a player (the second being a defensive anchor type player). The goal of the game is to outscore the opponent after all and Curry shoots almost 10% higher TS%. Sorry but Jrue's solid perimeter defense on one opposing teams player does not make up for the difference in the players offensively.
While I agree that Curry is clearly superior offensively, Holiday may be the better all around player. After all, a team is on the offense for only about half the plays in each game! You can't ignore the other half. Great players like Jordan and Bryant did not started their careers as adequate defenders but developed those skills over time. GS thought it was important to add a defensive specialist in Igoudala to guard the other team's top offensive weapon (he is only an average shooter at best), but it still will be interesting to see whether Curry tries to become that more complete player using an offseason when he is healthy to improve his defensive skills.
In my eyes Curry is pretty much better than Jrue at everything on offense. Curry is obviously the better shooter. He is a much more efficient scorer, shoots and makes more FT, rebounds equally to Jrue, has better handles, is better at creating his shot (can almost literally shoot from anywhere at anytime once he passes half court), causes opposing teams to constantly double team him opening extra opportunities for his teamates. In my opinion Curry is also the better passer. The guy averages 6.9 assists, while playing SG for almost half the game. His assist numbers would go way up if he wasn't so good at scoring. In fact he averaged 8.1 assist in the playoffs when he ran more PG (was even higher until he aggravated his ankle again). Curry got off to a slow start this past season so he is probably actually better then his number indicate. He averaged 26 pts and 7.4 ast post all star break, whil shooting 48% FG,46% 3PT, and over 60% TS. Jrue's #'s dropped off post all star break.
The only thing Jrue is better then Curry at is defense and even there I don't know if I would classify Jrue as an elite defender. Curry is a player you have to gameplan for and have to watch at all times or he has the ability to beat you all by himself. He can put his team on his back and score a quick 20 points giving his team a large lead in no time. Not sure Jrue can do anything close to that and in my opinion his defense doesn't make up for that.
With regards to Iggy, all top teams have a defensive specialist. The Thunder have Seflosha, the Grizz have Allen, the Spurs have Leonard, etc. I would say an Iggy-Harden comparison is somewhat similar to a Curry-Jrue comparison
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MagicFan101 wrote:Sadly these are the results I expected but they are wrong. You have to read the question.
Yes, Steph Curry is the best player (in my opinion) of the PGs drafted that year but this does not make him the best PG. Curry is at his best (which is prerry darn good!) when he plays OFF of the ball!
Disagree with this statement. Curry is very good off the ball, but is at his best when the ball is in Curry's hands. Curry is a very good ball handler and passer. Like I said before he averages 6.9 assists per while playing off the ball for close to half the game. Imagine if he played full time PG and wasn't such a good scorer, his assists would probably go up by quite a bit. His lack of size sometimes make it difficult to get open off the ball. When the ball starts off in his hands he can literally pull up from anywhere and the opposing team has to double team him opening up opportunities for others. Part of the reason he had such a good 2nd half of the season and playoffs is that he played more with the ball in his hands.
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BScoreez wrote:MagicFan101 wrote:Sadly these are the results I expected but they are wrong. You have to read the question.
Yes, Steph Curry is the best player (in my opinion) of the PGs drafted that year but this does not make him the best PG. Curry is at his best (which is prerry darn good!) when he plays OFF of the ball!
Disagree with this statement. Curry is very good off the ball, but is at his best when the ball is in Curry's hands. Curry is a very good ball handler and passer. Like I said before he averages 6.9 assists per while playing off the ball for close to half the game. Imagine if he played full time PG and wasn't such a good scorer, his assists would probably go up by quite a bit. His lack of size sometimes make it difficult to get open off the ball. When the ball starts off in his hands he can literally pull up from anywhere and the opposing team has to double team him opening up opportunities for others. Part of the reason he had such a good 2nd half of the season and playoffs is that he played more with the ball in his hands.
lol. I suppose everyone is entitled to an incorrect view from time to time.
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I guess, although I am not sure why it is so incorrect. Curry literally had the ball in his hands more during the 2nd half of the season and in the playoffs. Note that he played better in those portions of the season. There was a grantland article that talked about how the Warriors ran about twice as many pick and rolls with Curry during the Denver series. It's not a coincidence that he averaged 9.3 assists per game in that series. He is also a satistical outlier when shooting 3's off the dribble which also bodes really well for playing with the ball in your hands. So we have a player that is a very good ball handler, a very good passer, and a very good shooter off the dribble, causes teams to constantly double team him, and has a hard time getting open when off the ball at times. I think because he is such an elite shooter his other skills get downplayed sometimes.
I am not sure why it is such a stretch to say that it is better for the team when he plays with the ball in his hands. This is part of the reason why the Warriors let Jack go this offseason. Curry will still play off the ball at times, but overall expect him to have the ball in his hands a lot this season like he did during the playoffs.
I am not sure why it is such a stretch to say that it is better for the team when he plays with the ball in his hands. This is part of the reason why the Warriors let Jack go this offseason. Curry will still play off the ball at times, but overall expect him to have the ball in his hands a lot this season like he did during the playoffs.
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gold0259 wrote:With Rubio's poor shooting he should be averaging 15 assists a game, I don't see people infatuation with him. He is not worth a MAX extention either. We'll see how he does when healthy, but turnover rate too high, shooting 35% and 29% for 3. Jrue Holiday allstar, Steph Curry breaks 3 point record for season. Taking Rubio over Curry is like Taking Darko over Melo!
And who would be getting him those assists? It surely wasn't Love last season. Once you add better weapons around him, he will start to avg more assists.
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Teague should be one of the options.. he's better than Jennings lol