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1. Yes
2. No

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Silver must have been reading my posts

Donald Sterling has always been racist. the NBA has never cared about that. they only did this now bc it was a potential public relations nightmare and they had no choice. if this didnt become public via TMZ and social networks the NBA wouldnt have done anything about it just like every time before

12 of the 14 players on the Clippers are black. his HC is black. he didnt want JJ Reddick bc it was too much money for a white player. so evidently he's even more racist towards white people. the one thing I'll say in general is a man should be able to say whatever he wants in his own home and recording a person's conversation w/o their knowledge is super illegal. the girlfriend absolutely baited him into it w/ malicious intent

Yes get him out asap.

Simple as that.

Draft will be around the corner and summer free agency.

Give the new owners time to get $, draft who they want
and free agents they want.

totalrekall wrote:Donald Sterling has always been racist. the NBA has never cared about that. they only did this now bc it was a potential public relations nightmare and they had no choice. if this didnt become public via TMZ and social networks the NBA wouldnt have done anything about it just like every time before

12 of the 14 players on the Clippers are black. his HC is black. he didnt want JJ Reddick bc it was too much money for a white player. so evidently he's even more racist towards white people. the one thing I'll say in general is a man should be able to say whatever he wants in his own home and recording a person's conversation w/o their knowledge is super illegal. the girlfriend absolutely baited him into it w/ malicious intent

I don't know where you get you're legal knowledge from, but taping conversations YOU ARE A PARTY OF, isn't illegal. How many people experience work-place abuse, who end up taping their conversations with their abusive employer/manager, and the court accepts the evidence as admissible? As far as I know, most states and provinces accept this as legitimate. How else can one justify work-related abuse?

What's unequivocally illegal is taping conversations YOU ARE NOT A PART OF.

Furthermore, your cynicism with regard to the NBA's intentions is no doubt related to your callous attitude towards the people Donald Sterling is speaking of. I won't go into the psychopathology of why some people are slow to register the seriousness of this mans language and attitude on the public psyche. As Spike Lee rightly said, he relates to the players he employs as "slaves", that is, he speaks as if he were a slave master. As to buttress this point, like slave masters in past times, he has no problem sleeping and "employing" the services of a young black woman (who no doubt is a gold digger), and even admit that he doesn't give a **** what she does in private, but publicly, he wants to feel "above" and superior to the blacks he relates with. It's the image he cares about: he is "above" his black girlfriend - this being the impression he obviously cares to convey. The players he "employs", again, he feels like a fatherly benefactor, as opposed to an owner in a mutual partnership with players.

Everything about this man is obscene. And to ignore it, and not be indignant of it, is, in my mind, proof of a basic deficiency in self awareness and empathy for other selves. That this sort of attitude can prevail - and be allowed to prevail, in your mind, because "everyone is entitled to their beliefs", even though we live in a world where our knowledge of our interconnectedness is justified by developmental psychology, systems theory, information technologies, and quantum physics - fields of knowledge which SHOULD penetrate society and SHOULD put a limit on atavistic notions like "people can say what they want without penalty", is unacceptable in our day and age. In prior eras where human consciousness was still hamstringed by closed mindedness, cynicism and delusions about ones invulnerability, fine, the right to free speech was definitely important. But in our era, a time period where advancing knowledge continues to shape the way humans beings function and feel, we've come to understand the absolute centrality of empathy in constructing a better world.

Donald Sterling, as a citizen, has every right to be a bigoted, moronic, foolish human being. But as an owner of an NBA franchise, once his views become known - the relationship between himself and everyone else becomes changed. Now, people know how incredibly conceited and entitled this man is. The hatred and condescension implied in his words towards his players, and the sheer lack of respect and dignity he accords other human beings, SHOULD BE RESPONDED TO as NBA commissioner Adam Silver has decided to respond.

This should not be interpreted as capitulation to liberal ideas, but as an opportunity to exercise wisdom, and compassion, by acknowledging that this type of virulent thinking is abhorrent. In order for culture, and our human civilization, to be consciously advanced, Donald Sterling needed to be booted out.

mjd58 wrote:

totalrekall wrote:Donald Sterling has always been racist. the NBA has never cared about that. they only did this now bc it was a potential public relations nightmare and they had no choice. if this didnt become public via TMZ and social networks the NBA wouldnt have done anything about it just like every time before

12 of the 14 players on the Clippers are black. his HC is black. he didnt want JJ Reddick bc it was too much money for a white player. so evidently he's even more racist towards white people. the one thing I'll say in general is a man should be able to say whatever he wants in his own home and recording a person's conversation w/o their knowledge is super illegal. the girlfriend absolutely baited him into it w/ malicious intent

I don't know where you get you're legal knowledge from, but taping conversations YOU ARE A PARTY OF, isn't illegal. How many people experience work-place abuse, who end up taping their conversations with their abusive employer/manager, and the court accepts the evidence as admissible? As far as I know, most states and provinces accept this as legitimate. How else can one justify work-related abuse?

What's unequivocally illegal is taping conversations YOU ARE NOT A PART OF.

Furthermore, your cynicism with regard to the NBA's intentions is no doubt related to your callous attitude towards the people Donald Sterling is speaking of. I won't go into the psychopathology of why some people are slow to register the seriousness of this mans language and attitude on the public psyche. As Spike Lee rightly said, he relates to the players he employs as "slaves", that is, he speaks as if he were a slave master. As to buttress this point, like slave masters in past times, he has no problem sleeping and "employing" the services of a young black woman (who no doubt is a gold digger), and even admit that he doesn't give a **** what she does in private, but publicly, he wants to feel "above" and superior to the blacks he relates with. It's the image he cares about: he is "above" his black girlfriend - this being the impression he obviously cares to convey. The players he "employs", again, he feels like a fatherly benefactor, as opposed to an owner in a mutual partnership with players.

Everything about this man is obscene. And to ignore it, and not be indignant of it, is, in my mind, proof of a basic deficiency in self awareness and empathy for other selves. That this sort of attitude can prevail - and be allowed to prevail, in your mind, because "everyone is entitled to their beliefs", even though we live in a world where our knowledge of our interconnectedness is justified by developmental psychology, systems theory, information technologies, and quantum physics - fields of knowledge which SHOULD penetrate society and SHOULD put a limit on atavistic notions like "people can say what they want without penalty", is unacceptable in our day and age. In prior eras where human consciousness was still hamstringed by closed mindedness, cynicism and delusions about ones invulnerability, fine, the right to free speech was definitely important. But in our era, a time period where advancing knowledge continues to shape the way humans beings function and feel, we've come to understand the absolute centrality of empathy in constructing a better world.

Donald Sterling, as a citizen, has every right to be a bigoted, moronic, foolish human being. But as an owner of an NBA franchise, once his views become known - the relationship between himself and everyone else becomes changed. Now, people know how incredibly conceited and entitled this man is. The hatred and condescension implied in his words towards his players, and the sheer lack of respect and dignity he accords other human beings, SHOULD BE RESPONDED TO as NBA commissioner Adam Silver has decided to respond.

This should not be interpreted as capitulation to liberal ideas, but as an opportunity to exercise wisdom, and compassion, by acknowledging that this type of virulent thinking is abhorrent. In order for culture, and our human civilization, to be consciously advanced, Donald Sterling needed to be booted out.

you're right about most states, it only requires one party to be legal. here in CA though, both parties must know they are being recorded. the NBA had no choice but to ban him for life. it was going to cost them millions in lost advertizing partners. and to a lesser degree alienate some of the consumers of the product temporarily.

I agree w/ banning him from attending games for his own safety. forcing him to sell is a different issue. its going to tough bc all these owners have skeletons in their closets and if they set this type of precedent then anyone can be forced out based stupid **** they said in a private conversation.

Everyone is overreacting. Sterling is a douche but so are a million other people.

People act like Sterling is the only racists person in sports. Larry Johnson's comments were just as racists.

Everyone is so dramatic now days. I thought the JJ Reddick comments were funny.

Racism will always exist but we have a black president who was re elected and is not even a good president and I voted for him. Hillary also came close to being the first women.

Godgers wrote:Everyone is overreacting. Sterling is a douche but so are a million other people.

People act like Sterling is the only racists person in sports. Larry Johnson's comments were just as racists.

Everyone is so dramatic now days. I thought the JJ Reddick comments were funny.

Racism will always exist but we have a black president who was re elected and is not even a good president and I voted for him. Hillary also came close to being the first women.

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Sterling is a racist idiot and Larry Johnson is an idiot for reacting with reverse racism. What Johnson said about starting an all black league would be a huge slap in the face for all those coloured players that went through hell trying to break into the NBA all those years ago. The key to stopping racism is to not respond with racism (reverse racism) because it will just go on and on and on. I think most black people would be annoyed with what Johnson said as it doesn't help anybody but people that are happy to live with a racist mentality.

Godgers wrote:Racism will always exist but we have a black president who was re elected and is not even a good president and I voted for him. Hillary also came close to being the first women.

Good president? Nice joke

http://youngcons.com/spike-lee-works-fo ... f-he-says/ double standard...

totalrekall wrote:Donald Sterling has always been racist. the NBA has never cared about that. they only did this now bc it was a potential public relations nightmare and they had no choice. if this didnt become public via TMZ and social networks the NBA wouldnt have done anything about it just like every time before

12 of the 14 players on the Clippers are black. his HC is black. he didnt want JJ Reddick bc it was too much money for a white player. so evidently he's even more racist towards white people. the one thing I'll say in general is a man should be able to say whatever he wants in his own home and recording a person's conversation w/o their knowledge is super illegal. the girlfriend absolutely baited him into it w/ malicious intent

Apparently she regularly taped their conversations with his consent. And she did not "bait" him, Sterling chose to go on that rant

22.5% are white

LeftWright wrote:22.5% are white

I'm white, I voted no. I'm not racist as you assume you jerk... Thinking about where this could lead, how it could get stretched in the future is why I voted no. Ever notice how once something is done, it becomes easier to do it in the future?

I'll admit that his comments were bad, but I think he forced his own hand and was going to have to sell the team anyway. Nobody wanted to play or coach for him. But now we've established that even in private if you say something stupid, you can be banned... That concerns me about as much as idiot Sterlings comments.

mjd58 wrote:

totalrekall wrote:Donald Sterling has always been racist. the NBA has never cared about that. they only did this now bc it was a potential public relations nightmare and they had no choice. if this didnt become public via TMZ and social networks the NBA wouldnt have done anything about it just like every time before

12 of the 14 players on the Clippers are black. his HC is black. he didnt want JJ Reddick bc it was too much money for a white player. so evidently he's even more racist towards white people. the one thing I'll say in general is a man should be able to say whatever he wants in his own home and recording a person's conversation w/o their knowledge is super illegal. the girlfriend absolutely baited him into it w/ malicious intent

I don't know where you get you're legal knowledge from, but taping conversations YOU ARE A PARTY OF, isn't illegal. How many people experience work-place abuse, who end up taping their conversations with their abusive employer/manager, and the court accepts the evidence as admissible? As far as I know, most states and provinces accept this as legitimate. How else can one justify work-related abuse?

What's unequivocally illegal is taping conversations YOU ARE NOT A PART OF.

Furthermore, your cynicism with regard to the NBA's intentions is no doubt related to your callous attitude towards the people Donald Sterling is speaking of. I won't go into the psychopathology of why some people are slow to register the seriousness of this mans language and attitude on the public psyche. As Spike Lee rightly said, he relates to the players he employs as "slaves", that is, he speaks as if he were a slave master. As to buttress this point, like slave masters in past times, he has no problem sleeping and "employing" the services of a young black woman (who no doubt is a gold digger), and even admit that he doesn't give a **** what she does in private, but publicly, he wants to feel "above" and superior to the blacks he relates with. It's the image he cares about: he is "above" his black girlfriend - this being the impression he obviously cares to convey. The players he "employs", again, he feels like a fatherly benefactor, as opposed to an owner in a mutual partnership with players.

Everything about this man is obscene. And to ignore it, and not be indignant of it, is, in my mind, proof of a basic deficiency in self awareness and empathy for other selves. That this sort of attitude can prevail - and be allowed to prevail, in your mind, because "everyone is entitled to their beliefs", even though we live in a world where our knowledge of our interconnectedness is justified by developmental psychology, systems theory, information technologies, and quantum physics - fields of knowledge which SHOULD penetrate society and SHOULD put a limit on atavistic notions like "people can say what they want without penalty", is unacceptable in our day and age. In prior eras where human consciousness was still hamstringed by closed mindedness, cynicism and delusions about ones invulnerability, fine, the right to free speech was definitely important. But in our era, a time period where advancing knowledge continues to shape the way humans beings function and feel, we've come to understand the absolute centrality of empathy in constructing a better world.

Donald Sterling, as a citizen, has every right to be a bigoted, moronic, foolish human being. But as an owner of an NBA franchise, once his views become known - the relationship between himself and everyone else becomes changed. Now, people know how incredibly conceited and entitled this man is. The hatred and condescension implied in his words towards his players, and the sheer lack of respect and dignity he accords other human beings, SHOULD BE RESPONDED TO as NBA commissioner Adam Silver has decided to respond.

This should not be interpreted as capitulation to liberal ideas, but as an opportunity to exercise wisdom, and compassion, by acknowledging that this type of virulent thinking is abhorrent. In order for culture, and our human civilization, to be consciously advanced, Donald Sterling needed to be booted out.

+1,000,000 ; great post