Who has been the MVP over the first stretch of the season?

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Who has been the MVP over the first stretch of the season? 

Post#1 » by RealGM Polls » Tue Dec 5, 2017 2:56 pm

1. Harden
2. LeBron
3. Giannis
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Post#2 » by Knickstape7 » Tue Dec 5, 2017 6:58 pm

hurt lebron fans in 3...2...1...
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Post#3 » by Harry Garris » Wed Dec 6, 2017 12:10 am

Knickstape7 wrote:hurt lebron fans in 3...2...1...


Nah, Lebron's been great but Harden has been unbelievable to start this year. Real recognize real.
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Post#4 » by SuperDario » Wed Dec 6, 2017 7:09 pm

Never been a LeBron fan but he's still the best player in the league, and so far has been playing like it. I'd give him the edge over Beard.
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Post#5 » by Chi Dynasty12 » Thu Dec 7, 2017 8:08 am

Harden because he's doing what he's doing (in the better Conference too). But LeBron will win the Finals MVP
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Post#6 » by Pennebaker » Thu Dec 7, 2017 10:00 am

James Harden is shooting 45%. He's wack. LeBron is starting to run away with this. Remember, just a few weeks ago he wasn't even in contention because his team was 5-7, and now he's either 1st or 2nd depending on who you ask. It's LeBron's award to lose.
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Post#7 » by 4theland4ever » Fri Dec 8, 2017 12:55 pm

Knickstape7 wrote:hurt lebron fans in 3...2...1...


One thing's for sure....there are no Knick players in the conversation for MVP and haven't had one in over 15 years!!
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Post#8 » by Pickled Prunes » Fri Dec 8, 2017 11:26 pm

Pennebaker wrote:James Harden is shooting 45%. He's wack. LeBron is starting to run away with this. Remember, just a few weeks ago he wasn't even in contention because his team was 5-7, and now he's either 1st or 2nd depending on who you ask. It's LeBron's award to lose.

Harden is shooting 52% from 2pt and 40% from 3pt. Great numbers from a perimeter player.

And don't buy into the hype of this streak. The Cavs last loss was to the Rockets. The only Western Conf. teams the Cavs have played during this streak are: Clips, Kings, Griz and Mavs. By far the best team they beat on this run was Detroit who are clearly an illusion and have now lost 4 straight. An absolutely soft schedule that remains soft until GS on Christmas.

(NBA conspiracy to make Christmas more interesting?... you decide!)
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Post#9 » by bespectacled19 » Sat Dec 9, 2017 1:12 am

Chi Dynasty12 wrote:Harden because he's doing what he's doing (in the better Conference too). But LeBron will win the Finals MVP


better conference? so that's where the MVP should be because of the conference?

it's still too early though, but definitely they're 1 and 2 in the convo. Harden has the better team though, while Lebron has to carry his team more because of significant injuries (TT, IT, Rose, and no more Irving). it's LeBron for me, right now.
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Post#10 » by Pennebaker » Sat Dec 9, 2017 9:37 am

Pickled Prunes wrote:
Pennebaker wrote:James Harden is shooting 45%. He's wack. LeBron is starting to run away with this. Remember, just a few weeks ago he wasn't even in contention because his team was 5-7, and now he's either 1st or 2nd depending on who you ask. It's LeBron's award to lose.

Harden is shooting 52% from 2pt and 40% from 3pt. Great numbers from a perimeter player.

And don't buy into the hype of this streak. The Cavs last loss was to the Rockets. The only Western Conf. teams the Cavs have played during this streak are: Clips, Kings, Griz and Mavs. By far the best team they beat on this run was Detroit who are clearly an illusion and have now lost 4 straight. An absolutely soft schedule that remains soft until GS on Christmas.

(NBA conspiracy to make Christmas more interesting?... you decide!)


No no no no... 52% from 2pt and 40% from 3pt isn't great for a perimeter player. 64% from 2pt and 43% from 3pt is great for a perimeter player. Don't get it twisted.

Harden has nothing on King James.

And the Rockets are pretenders. Harden and CP3 are choke artists. Awarding Harden an MVP for what should be considered "Flopgate" by the public would be a crime against humanity. Seriously, the public should be outraged over Harden's cheating. He should be banned for at least the first half of next season because nothing else has changed his behavior even though he's been well warned. They changed the rules because of him and he just finds new ways to cheat. He's a serial offender and it would be a travesty if an MVP was ever awarded to him.
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Post#11 » by Pickled Prunes » Sat Dec 9, 2017 8:56 pm

Pennebaker wrote:
Pickled Prunes wrote:
Pennebaker wrote:James Harden is shooting 45%. He's wack. LeBron is starting to run away with this. Remember, just a few weeks ago he wasn't even in contention because his team was 5-7, and now he's either 1st or 2nd depending on who you ask. It's LeBron's award to lose.

Harden is shooting 52% from 2pt and 40% from 3pt. Great numbers from a perimeter player.

And don't buy into the hype of this streak. The Cavs last loss was to the Rockets. The only Western Conf. teams the Cavs have played during this streak are: Clips, Kings, Griz and Mavs. By far the best team they beat on this run was Detroit who are clearly an illusion and have now lost 4 straight. An absolutely soft schedule that remains soft until GS on Christmas.

(NBA conspiracy to make Christmas more interesting?... you decide!)


No no no no... 52% from 2pt and 40% from 3pt isn't great for a perimeter player. 64% from 2pt and 43% from 3pt is great for a perimeter player. Don't get it twisted.

Harden has nothing on King James.

And the Rockets are pretenders. Harden and CP3 are choke artists. Awarding Harden an MVP for what should be considered "Flopgate" by the public would be a crime against humanity. Seriously, the public should be outraged over Harden's cheating. He should be banned for at least the first half of next season because nothing else has changed his behavior even though he's been well warned. They changed the rules because of him and he just finds new ways to cheat. He's a serial offender and it would be a travesty if an MVP was ever awarded to him.

For his career, 18x All-Star Kobe Bryant averaged 48% from 2pt and 33% from 3pt. GOAT MJ averaged 51% and 33%. Harden is doing fine. The Rockets have the best record in the league and the only other former All-Star on their team missed the first month of the season. That's what MVP's are made of. Don't let your hate blind you.

Lebron is also having a monster season (and career) and I don't think anyone will dispute that. They have the 5th best record in the league and have had garbage competition for the last month or so. The only Eastern team with playoff aspirations that have had an easier schedule thus far are the Wizards. (The Back end of the season could get rough for both of these teams.) Plus the Cavs have 6 former All-Stars, two MVP, two finals MVP's and $20M more in payroll. They are going to need to win the East if Lebron wants to compete for MVP. Add to that how Love regressed when he came and Kyrie excelled when he left... Lebron clearly isn't getting the best out of his teammates. Westbrook proved that this type of play can win you an MVP, but I think everyone is seeing clearer now.
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Post#12 » by PerfectJab » Sat Dec 9, 2017 11:41 pm

With the way Lebron is playing, put him in place of beard and you think the Rockets have a better or worse record?

That's how I'd define MVP.
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Post#13 » by IAMZOOTED » Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:21 am

PerfectJab wrote:With the way Lebron is playing, put him in place of beard and you think the Rockets have a better or worse record?

That's how I'd define MVP.


That’s not how the voters define it.
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Post#14 » by Pennebaker » Sun Dec 10, 2017 11:09 am

Pickled Prunes wrote:
Pennebaker wrote:
Pickled Prunes wrote:Harden is shooting 52% from 2pt and 40% from 3pt. Great numbers from a perimeter player.

And don't buy into the hype of this streak. The Cavs last loss was to the Rockets. The only Western Conf. teams the Cavs have played during this streak are: Clips, Kings, Griz and Mavs. By far the best team they beat on this run was Detroit who are clearly an illusion and have now lost 4 straight. An absolutely soft schedule that remains soft until GS on Christmas.

(NBA conspiracy to make Christmas more interesting?... you decide!)


No no no no... 52% from 2pt and 40% from 3pt isn't great for a perimeter player. 64% from 2pt and 43% from 3pt is great for a perimeter player. Don't get it twisted.

Harden has nothing on King James.

And the Rockets are pretenders. Harden and CP3 are choke artists. Awarding Harden an MVP for what should be considered "Flopgate" by the public would be a crime against humanity. Seriously, the public should be outraged over Harden's cheating. He should be banned for at least the first half of next season because nothing else has changed his behavior even though he's been well warned. They changed the rules because of him and he just finds new ways to cheat. He's a serial offender and it would be a travesty if an MVP was ever awarded to him.

For his career, 18x All-Star Kobe Bryant averaged 48% from 2pt and 33% from 3pt. GOAT MJ averaged 51% and 33%. Harden is doing fine. The Rockets have the best record in the league and the only other former All-Star on their team missed the first month of the season. That's what MVP's are made of. Don't let your hate blind you.


Kobe and MJ weren't cheaters though.

I don't hate Harden. I just couldn't in good conscience endorse him for MVP. Nobody with any moral fiber should be able to.
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Post#15 » by chipchipperson » Sun Dec 10, 2017 3:01 pm

Pennebaker wrote:
Pickled Prunes wrote:
Pennebaker wrote:
No no no no... 52% from 2pt and 40% from 3pt isn't great for a perimeter player. 64% from 2pt and 43% from 3pt is great for a perimeter player. Don't get it twisted.

Harden has nothing on King James.

And the Rockets are pretenders. Harden and CP3 are choke artists. Awarding Harden an MVP for what should be considered "Flopgate" by the public would be a crime against humanity. Seriously, the public should be outraged over Harden's cheating. He should be banned for at least the first half of next season because nothing else has changed his behavior even though he's been well warned. They changed the rules because of him and he just finds new ways to cheat. He's a serial offender and it would be a travesty if an MVP was ever awarded to him.

For his career, 18x All-Star Kobe Bryant averaged 48% from 2pt and 33% from 3pt. GOAT MJ averaged 51% and 33%. Harden is doing fine. The Rockets have the best record in the league and the only other former All-Star on their team missed the first month of the season. That's what MVP's are made of. Don't let your hate blind you.


Kobe and MJ weren't cheaters though.

I don't hate Harden. I just couldn't in good conscience endorse him for MVP. Nobody with any moral fiber should be able to.


In all fairness, kobe invented arm flailing, screaming after the slightest contact and pretty much every "cheat" move that harden has in his repertoire. btw this is coming for a kobe fan who doesn't particularly like harden and thinks lbj should be winning the mvp every year.
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Post#16 » by Pickled Prunes » Sun Dec 10, 2017 10:45 pm

chipchipperson wrote:
Pennebaker wrote:
Pickled Prunes wrote:For his career, 18x All-Star Kobe Bryant averaged 48% from 2pt and 33% from 3pt. GOAT MJ averaged 51% and 33%. Harden is doing fine. The Rockets have the best record in the league and the only other former All-Star on their team missed the first month of the season. That's what MVP's are made of. Don't let your hate blind you.


Kobe and MJ weren't cheaters though.

I don't hate Harden. I just couldn't in good conscience endorse him for MVP. Nobody with any moral fiber should be able to.


In all fairness, kobe invented arm flailing, screaming after the slightest contact and pretty much every "cheat" move that harden has in his repertoire. btw this is coming for a kobe fan who doesn't particularly like harden and thinks lbj should be winning the mvp every year.

Everybody flops and all shooters try and draw fouls... but Kobe was the first jump shooter trying harder to get fouled that to get an open shot. That said, he played within the rules, as does Harden.

But I'm confused... are you suggesting that Lebron has never flopped or created contact to try and draw a foul? If he has, would that make him a cheater? Sorry to burst your bubble!

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