Indiana Fever 2024

[Ice Man]

Fever fans

https://www.si.com/onsi/womens-fastbreak/news/wnba-finals-mvp-jonquel-jones-refuses-to-label-caitlin-clark-and-fever-fans-01jbq4wfz6f6?utm_source=reddit.com

Take a moment to read what Jonquel said about yall. The feeling from me is mutual. I love the Fever fanbase.

Some people are perpetually thoughtful and therefore interesting, while others are one-note and therefore tedious. Jonquel is among the first group. A whole lot of WNBA players are, I am happy to say.

[Wingy]

Fever fans

https://www.si.com/onsi/womens-fastbreak/news/wnba-finals-mvp-jonquel-jones-refuses-to-label-caitlin-clark-and-fever-fans-01jbq4wfz6f6?utm_source=reddit.com

Take a moment to read what Jonquel said about yall. The feeling from me is mutual. I love the Fever fanbase.

Some people are perpetually thoughtful and therefore interesting, while others are one-note and therefore tedious. Jonquel is among the first group. A whole lot of WNBA players are, I am happy to say.

It’s what annoys the heck out of me about the analysts (eg - Chuck), and certain fans that make these sweeping generalizations that encapsulate an entire league of 144 players and its alum.

Talking as if they were all in some united, march-step campaign against Clark, hating her.

When it was what?
- Taurasi (I initially didn’t like the comments myself, but it was and still is taken out of context)
- Swoopes (I guess, I didn’t give any energy to get into the details)
- A chunk of the Chicago Sky - and even then, there’s nuance (eg - controversy has long followed Chen Carter, CC/Angel have years of competitive rivalry)
- Dijonai Carrington - part competitors just going at it, part social/political ideology

so that short list, much of which isn’t even necessarily anti-Clark became the whole of women’s basketball.

Kudos to JJ. There are many more like her, but we just hear more from the turds in the punch bowl since that drives controversy, clicks and revenue.

[MrDollarBills]

Fever fans

https://www.si.com/onsi/womens-fastbreak/news/wnba-finals-mvp-jonquel-jones-refuses-to-label-caitlin-clark-and-fever-fans-01jbq4wfz6f6?utm_source=reddit.com

Take a moment to read what Jonquel said about yall. The feeling from me is mutual. I love the Fever fanbase.

I hope the Fever fan base is like that, I think they are. Hopefully only a few loud mouthed CC fans are the a-holes.

On here i can vouch for the Fever fans. They're good folks.

[C.lupus]

Fever fans

https://www.si.com/onsi/womens-fastbreak/news/wnba-finals-mvp-jonquel-jones-refuses-to-label-caitlin-clark-and-fever-fans-01jbq4wfz6f6?utm_source=reddit.com

Take a moment to read what Jonquel said about yall. The feeling from me is mutual. I love the Fever fanbase.

Some people are perpetually thoughtful and therefore interesting, while others are one-note and therefore tedious. Jonquel is among the first group. A whole lot of WNBA players are, I am happy to say.

It’s what annoys the heck out of me about the analysts (eg - Chuck), and certain fans that make these sweeping generalizations that encapsulate an entire league of 144 players and its alum.

Talking as if they were all in some united, march-step campaign against Clark, hating her.

When it was what?
- Taurasi (I initially didn’t like the comments myself, but it was and still is taken out of context)
- Swoopes (I guess, I didn’t give any energy to get into the details)
- A chunk of the Chicago Sky - and even then, there’s nuance (eg - controversy has long followed Chen Carter, CC/Angel have years of competitive rivalry)
- Dijonai Carrington - part competitors just going at it, part social/political ideology

so that short list, much of which isn’t even necessarily anti-Clark became the whole of women’s basketball.

Kudos to JJ. There are many more like her, but we just hear more from the turds in the punch bowl since that drives controversy, clicks and revenue.

You could add A'ja to that list saying CC was all about white privelege (right to Kelsey Plum's face no less).

I don't think Taurasi's comments were anti-CC as much as her having a history of kind of hazing rookies with physical play and such ("welcome to the WNBA" stuff) and also her being part of the UConn clique so she has to back Bueckers.

Swoopes is just an idiot hasbeen trying to stay relevant.

[Wingy]

You could add A'ja to that list saying CC was all about white privelege (right to Kelsey Plum's face no less).

I don't think Taurasi's comments were anti-CC as much as her having a history of kind of hazing rookies with physical play and such ("welcome to the WNBA" stuff) and also her being part of the UConn clique so she has to back Bueckers.

Swoopes is just an idiot hasbeen trying to stay relevant.

Hadn’t heard about that one, and looked it up and I think you are referencing a time when A’ja was actually talking about Bueckers, not Clark. She basically states Plum and Bueckers are a parallel, and explicitly says it’s a compliment to Plum. That both have the self awareness to understand their privilege. That’s not a given for people to have that sort of wisdom, especially for a youngster like Bueckers, but that’s her family and upbringing coming in.

Never been a big Taurasi fan, never had anything much against her either. I just think the part where she said the rookie transition happens to all of us, and a lot of other context just got buried. Also, I honestly just found this out myself looking it up just now. The question wasn’t even just about Clark. “Kamila's coming, Caitlin's coming, there's more than just that that's coming. What will the league have in store for them when they get there?”

Yeah. I remember Swoopes as a WNBA great and saw occasional highlights when younger, but never paid any real attention then or to the more recent controversies because I assume they’re mostly over blown, and even if whatever’s all true, it’s just one player.

[MrDollarBills]

You could add A'ja to that list saying CC was all about white privelege (right to Kelsey Plum's face no less).

I don't think Taurasi's comments were anti-CC as much as her having a history of kind of hazing rookies with physical play and such ("welcome to the WNBA" stuff) and also her being part of the UConn clique so she has to back Bueckers.

Swoopes is just an idiot hasbeen trying to stay relevant.

Hadn’t heard about that one, and looked it up and I think you are referencing a time when A’ja was actually talking about Bueckers, not Clark. She basically states Plum and Bueckers are a parallel, and explicitly says it’s a compliment to Plum. That both have the self awareness to understand their privilege. That’s not a given for people to have that sort of wisdom, especially for a youngster like Bueckers, but that’s her family and upbringing coming in.

Never been a big Taurasi fan, never had anything much against her either. I just think the part where she said the rookie transition happens to all of us, and a lot of other context just got buried. Also, I honestly just found this out myself looking it up just now. The question wasn’t even just about Clark. “Kamila's coming, Caitlin's coming, there's more than just that that's coming. What will the league have in store for them when they get there?”

Yeah. I remember Swoopes as a WNBA great and saw occasional highlights when younger, but never paid any real attention then or to the more recent controversies because I assume they’re mostly over blown, and even if whatever’s all true, it’s just one player.

Paige, Plum Dawg and let me add Cam to that list. They are all very self aware women and I cannot be more happy to watch them hoop

[jc23]

It was loosely connected to Clark (not directly); aja talked about race playing a major factor in terms of black womens marketability and popularity. i agree that its a factor, just not to the degree she seems to. nobody is without bias which includes racial bias. for example If Caitlin were Korean im sure there would be an higher percentage of Korean fans following her. How much of a factor varies from person to person.

Aja seems to either be hung up on it or its a story that gets over reported with her; not sure yet as im only 1 season into following the wnba. I can tell she takes tremendous pride in her sport; loved what she said when usher was at the game. The clip at the game with Plum looked awkward to me.

Caitlin is a bad example to use here because she is a generational talent; 1 of 1.

[mickie]

here just to see if Satou Sabally can realistically be a Fever next season?

[IlikeSHAIguys]

what kind of gals would indy have to add to win?

[Wizop]

what kind of gals would indy have to add to win?

I hope they add size at forward.

[Wingy]

here just to see if Satou Sabally can realistically be a Fever next season?

https://www.spotrac.com/wnba/cap/_/year/2025/sort/cap_maximum_space

[TheSuzerain]

The expansion next offseason creates an interesting scenario. Do you wait until next offseason to load up due to the specter of an expansion draft?

I feel like there is a large wealth of talented Euro's that will come to the WNBA once salaries triple. That's where the Fever should tap into in FA imo.

[IlikeSHAIguys]

what kind of gals would indy have to add to win?

I hope they add size at forward.

it would be cool to see CC dishing more lobs.

[Wizop]

Most expected Fagbenle to be protected but I wasn't a fan of hers. I didn't believe in her offense.

[Braggins]

I don't know how the Fever could have justified protecting any of the remaining players over Temi. Clark, Boston, Mitchell, Hull, Smith, were all surely protected. That means if Temi was picked that they had to have protected one of KLS, Damiras Dantas, Erica Wheeler, or maybe Grace Berger.

Temi was clearly significantly better than all those players last season. KLS was kind of bad, Dantas was alright, Wheeler was awful, and Berger didn't play.

[Wizop]

Many expected us to lose Dantas. I can see protecting her over Temi whose offense was limited to layups.

I was also impressed by Saxton in limited minutes.

[RSCD3_]

Most expected Fagbenle to be protected but I wasn't a fan of hers. I didn't believe in her offense.

Regardless they were the second worst team defensively last year and they just lost one of their best defenders

I presume that's what they'll be looking for out of the draft or free agency, maybe possibly a trade.

I do think it would be a lot smarter of this team to try and play grace berger more so Caitlin isnt playing over 37 minutes

Which Sides had her doing 18/40 games and she was often gassed in the 4th quarter, frequently standing in the corner or passing the ball to start the possession and essentially resting on offense while hoping her gravity would help. Like I think a fresher CC could make this team ever better

[Wizop]

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[Mephariel]

It was loosely connected to Clark (not directly); aja talked about race playing a major factor in terms of black womens marketability and popularity. i agree that its a factor, just not to the degree she seems to. nobody is without bias which includes racial bias. for example If Caitlin were Korean im sure there would be an higher percentage of Korean fans following her. How much of a factor varies from person to person.

Aja seems to either be hung up on it or its a story that gets over reported with her; not sure yet as im only 1 season into following the wnba. I can tell she takes tremendous pride in her sport; loved what she said when usher was at the game. The clip at the game with Plum looked awkward to me.

Caitlin is a bad example to use here because she is a generational talent; 1 of 1.

The Korean population is 0.6% in the USA. White people make up 70% of the population. She obviously wouldn't just have 0.6% of the population rooting for her, because a large segment of the population will tune in just because they are fans of the sport. But she wouldn't be as popular as she is now for sure.

[jc23]

It was loosely connected to Clark (not directly); aja talked about race playing a major factor in terms of black womens marketability and popularity. i agree that its a factor, just not to the degree she seems to. nobody is without bias which includes racial bias. for example If Caitlin were Korean im sure there would be an higher percentage of Korean fans following her. How much of a factor varies from person to person.

Aja seems to either be hung up on it or its a story that gets over reported with her; not sure yet as im only 1 season into following the wnba. I can tell she takes tremendous pride in her sport; loved what she said when usher was at the game. The clip at the game with Plum looked awkward to me.

Caitlin is a bad example to use here because she is a generational talent; 1 of 1.

The Korean population is 0.6% in the USA. White people make up 70% of the population. She obviously wouldn't just have 0.6% of the population rooting for her, because a large segment of the population will tune in just because they are fans of the sport. But she wouldn't be as popular as she is now for sure.

for sure not the best example ive ever used. just saying that it plays a factor but not the main one. I mean the NBA does great with no superstar white American players. But if you had one then yeah im sure he would get a bit more shine with the majority pop.