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Re: New WNBA TV Contract 

Post#21 » by Ghetto Gospel » Thu Jul 18, 2024 1:34 pm

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Ah ok damn so... that's $200/14 instead of 12. So $14m vs $16m. The league as a whole is expected to lose $50m this year or $4.1m per team. So basically with this media deal, and not knowing the players' revenue split (new CBA coming), the league as a whole should be in the black with the new deal.


in theory that's true but i think that $50m expected to lose number is considerably more than it was in the past and right now the revenue is probably higher than it ever has been.

i'm guessing the league has been pumping money into marketing the teams, players, hiring better talent/decision makers, etc. that it'll be mostly fine whether or not they're in the red or black. the product is growing quickly and this new tv deal shows it. they just need to keep working at it and growing the product.


Hey dude your avatar that's one of my fav fishes. Used to have a pair or trio of them. They are so gorgeous. Miss them.

The increased losses probably is due to the charter flights too I'd think. Ticket sales are probably higher so what you're saying is the losses will be lower. Either case, it's going to be good news with the new media deal. Although.... it's going to lock them for 11 years and $200per seems low in 10 years' time.


yeah, i love the way this little critter looks. mine still gets a little nervous though when i get too close so i have to admire from afar. maybe i needed a trio..? i don't want to add a couple more now though just in case my current one gets territorial.

i just saw a report that the executive director of the union thinks that the league is being undervalued at 2.2billion over 11 years. 200m on average does sound a tad low in 10 years time, but it's also significantly more than the previous one. perhaps the W just accepted it as a bit of a security blanket? there's definitely a bit of projection here and continued growth isn't necessarily guaranteed. perhaps its a sort of hedge just in case it's a 1 year wonder kind of thing

https://www.espn.com/wnba/story/_/id/40587669/reports-wnba-get-200m-per-year-union-exec-concerned

there's also an option in this TV deal for the WNBA to get an additional 60m per year from elsewhere so it could get up to 260 for what it's worth
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Re: New WNBA TV Contract 

Post#22 » by Ice Man » Thu Jul 18, 2024 1:46 pm

Ghetto Gospel wrote:i just saw a report that the executive director of the union thinks that the league is being undervalued at 2.2billion over 11 years. 200m on average does sound a tad low in 10 years time, but it's also significantly more than the previous one. perhaps the W just accepted it as a bit of a security blanket? there's definitely a bit of projection here and continued growth isn't necessarily guaranteed. perhaps its a sort of hedge just in case it's a 1 year wonder kind of thing


Exactly. This is a classic compromise. The league runs the likely risk of having sold its future too cheaply, but receives a guarantee in return. For the league, this deal is an insurance contract. Meanwhile, the media providers run the less likely risk of having overpaid for a temporarily fashionable property. For them, this deal is stock fund. it probably will perform well over the next decade, but there is always the possibility that the investment will burn them.

A deal that puts fear into both parties is a good deal.
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Re: New WNBA TV Contract 

Post#23 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Jul 18, 2024 6:07 pm

I think this contract will be way undervalued once it's time for Juju to arrive.
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Post#24 » by ___Rand___ » Thu Jul 18, 2024 8:07 pm

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in theory that's true but i think that $50m expected to lose number is considerably more than it was in the past and right now the revenue is probably higher than it ever has been.

i'm guessing the league has been pumping money into marketing the teams, players, hiring better talent/decision makers, etc. that it'll be mostly fine whether or not they're in the red or black. the product is growing quickly and this new tv deal shows it. they just need to keep working at it and growing the product.


Hey dude your avatar that's one of my fav fishes. Used to have a pair or trio of them. They are so gorgeous. Miss them.

The increased losses probably is due to the charter flights too I'd think. Ticket sales are probably higher so what you're saying is the losses will be lower. Either case, it's going to be good news with the new media deal. Although.... it's going to lock them for 11 years and $200per seems low in 10 years' time.


yeah, i love the way this little critter looks. mine still gets a little nervous though when i get too close so i have to admire from afar. maybe i needed a trio..? i don't want to add a couple more now though just in case my current one gets territorial.

i just saw a report that the executive director of the union thinks that the league is being undervalued at 2.2billion over 11 years. 200m on average does sound a tad low in 10 years time, but it's also significantly more than the previous one. perhaps the W just accepted it as a bit of a security blanket? there's definitely a bit of projection here and continued growth isn't necessarily guaranteed. perhaps its a sort of hedge just in case it's a 1 year wonder kind of thing

https://www.espn.com/wnba/story/_/id/40587669/reports-wnba-get-200m-per-year-union-exec-concerned

there's also an option in this TV deal for the WNBA to get an additional 60m per year from elsewhere so it could get up to 260 for what it's worth


Yeah having a single one isn't bad idea. You might have to take it out and re-introduce them together if you get new ones. Do you have other small slow moving fish in the tank? I think dither fish might help along with hiding spaces. They are amongst the most beautiful reef fishes at any price point IMO.

On WNBA I think yes they took the money as security for the league and the broadcaster. It is significantly higher than current contract. The new contract SHOULD change the valuation of the league.
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Re: New WNBA TV Contract 

Post#25 » by Ghetto Gospel » Thu Jul 18, 2024 8:29 pm

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Hey dude your avatar that's one of my fav fishes. Used to have a pair or trio of them. They are so gorgeous. Miss them.

The increased losses probably is due to the charter flights too I'd think. Ticket sales are probably higher so what you're saying is the losses will be lower. Either case, it's going to be good news with the new media deal. Although.... it's going to lock them for 11 years and $200per seems low in 10 years' time.


yeah, i love the way this little critter looks. mine still gets a little nervous though when i get too close so i have to admire from afar. maybe i needed a trio..? i don't want to add a couple more now though just in case my current one gets territorial.

i just saw a report that the executive director of the union thinks that the league is being undervalued at 2.2billion over 11 years. 200m on average does sound a tad low in 10 years time, but it's also significantly more than the previous one. perhaps the W just accepted it as a bit of a security blanket? there's definitely a bit of projection here and continued growth isn't necessarily guaranteed. perhaps its a sort of hedge just in case it's a 1 year wonder kind of thing

https://www.espn.com/wnba/story/_/id/40587669/reports-wnba-get-200m-per-year-union-exec-concerned

there's also an option in this TV deal for the WNBA to get an additional 60m per year from elsewhere so it could get up to 260 for what it's worth


Yeah having a single one isn't bad idea. You might have to take it out and re-introduce them together if you get new ones. Do you have other small slow moving fish in the tank? I think dither fish might help along with hiding spaces. They are amongst the most beautiful reef fishes at any price point IMO.

On WNBA I think yes they took the money as security for the league and the broadcaster. It is significantly higher than current contract. The new contract SHOULD change the valuation of the league.


i think my sunburst is just scared of me. it's only really when i get close to the tank, that fish goes in and hides. when i'm 5+ feet away, it's out and about doing fish things. that and my gramma. but as soon as i drop food into the tank they all of a sudden have no fear that im there :roll:
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Post#26 » by ___Rand___ » Thu Jul 18, 2024 8:38 pm

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yeah, i love the way this little critter looks. mine still gets a little nervous though when i get too close so i have to admire from afar. maybe i needed a trio..? i don't want to add a couple more now though just in case my current one gets territorial.

i just saw a report that the executive director of the union thinks that the league is being undervalued at 2.2billion over 11 years. 200m on average does sound a tad low in 10 years time, but it's also significantly more than the previous one. perhaps the W just accepted it as a bit of a security blanket? there's definitely a bit of projection here and continued growth isn't necessarily guaranteed. perhaps its a sort of hedge just in case it's a 1 year wonder kind of thing

https://www.espn.com/wnba/story/_/id/40587669/reports-wnba-get-200m-per-year-union-exec-concerned

there's also an option in this TV deal for the WNBA to get an additional 60m per year from elsewhere so it could get up to 260 for what it's worth


Yeah having a single one isn't bad idea. You might have to take it out and re-introduce them together if you get new ones. Do you have other small slow moving fish in the tank? I think dither fish might help along with hiding spaces. They are amongst the most beautiful reef fishes at any price point IMO.

On WNBA I think yes they took the money as security for the league and the broadcaster. It is significantly higher than current contract. The new contract SHOULD change the valuation of the league.


i think my sunburst is just scared of me. it's only really when i get close to the tank, that fish goes in and hides. when i'm 5+ feet away, it's out and about doing fish things. that and my gramma. but as soon as i drop food into the tank they all of a sudden have no fear that im there :roll:


That's a start! Food! He'll get used to you after a while.
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Re: New WNBA TV Contract 

Post#27 » by Ghetto Gospel » Thu Jul 18, 2024 8:46 pm

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Yeah having a single one isn't bad idea. You might have to take it out and re-introduce them together if you get new ones. Do you have other small slow moving fish in the tank? I think dither fish might help along with hiding spaces. They are amongst the most beautiful reef fishes at any price point IMO.

On WNBA I think yes they took the money as security for the league and the broadcaster. It is significantly higher than current contract. The new contract SHOULD change the valuation of the league.


i think my sunburst is just scared of me. it's only really when i get close to the tank, that fish goes in and hides. when i'm 5+ feet away, it's out and about doing fish things. that and my gramma. but as soon as i drop food into the tank they all of a sudden have no fear that im there :roll:


That's a start! Food! He'll get used to you after a while.


i've had him for about 3 years now :lol:

i think its just one of those things in his mind where doing it has kept him safe for 3 years now so might as well do what keeps working. or maybe it's his way of telling me not to show up if i ain't coming with anything good
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Post#28 » by ___Rand___ » Thu Jul 18, 2024 9:00 pm

Ghetto Gospel wrote:
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i think my sunburst is just scared of me. it's only really when i get close to the tank, that fish goes in and hides. when i'm 5+ feet away, it's out and about doing fish things. that and my gramma. but as soon as i drop food into the tank they all of a sudden have no fear that im there :roll:


That's a start! Food! He'll get used to you after a while.


i've had him for about 3 years now :lol:

i think its just one of those things in his mind where doing it has kept him safe for 3 years now so might as well do what keeps working. or maybe it's his way of telling me not to show up if i ain't coming with anything good


lol that's probably it. Yeah I think I had better luck with mine. I've had this purple tang for 9 years. He does the same thing. always hides unless I'm feeding.
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Post#29 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Jul 18, 2024 10:06 pm

Once the two new team are added I would like to see the season expanded to add another 12 games to the season. Who cares if they bleed into the NBA season, i wanna watch W hoops as much as I can
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Post#30 » by ellobo » Fri Jul 19, 2024 12:05 am

___Rand___ wrote:
Ghetto Gospel wrote:
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That's a start! Food! He'll get used to you after a while.


i've had him for about 3 years now :lol:

i think its just one of those things in his mind where doing it has kept him safe for 3 years now so might as well do what keeps working. or maybe it's his way of telling me not to show up if i ain't coming with anything good


lol that's probably it. Yeah I think I had better luck with mine. I've had this purple tang for 9 years. He does the same thing. always hides unless I'm feeding.


Yo, take it to the Current Fish Affairs board. No wants to read that **** here ;-)
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Post#31 » by hermes » Fri Jul 19, 2024 1:02 am

actually, take the fish talk here:
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Post#32 » by cdubbz » Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:43 am

MrDollarBills wrote:Once the two new team are added I would like to see the season expanded to add another 12 games to the season. Who cares if they bleed into the NBA season, i wanna watch W hoops as much as I can


Yup I agree. Do they add roster spots too? 12 should be enough depth to get through 52 games plus playoffs right? I’d like to see all playoff series be best of 5. Best of 7 can be anti-climactic. Best of 5 still has some thrill to it.
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