Dijonai Carrington poking Caitlin Clark in the eye
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Definitely dirty and looked intentional. The hand and arm action looked unnatural (readjusted mid air after realizing she missed). But calling it "CRIMINAL behavior" is a stretch.
I will say this is worth a fine. This is a Draymond Green-esque foul.
This isn't just "hard ball", "playoff basketball". This is just dirty. C'mon now.
            
                                    
                                    
                        I will say this is worth a fine. This is a Draymond Green-esque foul.
This isn't just "hard ball", "playoff basketball". This is just dirty. C'mon now.
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MrDollarBills wrote:___Rand___ wrote:Wingy wrote:
How bout...watch it in real time, full speed instead of a slow motion, started from a convenient point in a clip that's designed with a specific, tired agenda?
Clearly a basketball player swatting to deflect a pass, and yes, gravity, and momentum will make a hand already moving in one direction continue to move downward.
I can tell you didn't pass physics in high school. Oh wait, you didn't even take it did you. (I did IB physics - that's college level). The heavier denser part with less air resistance falls faster. In this case it's the ARM not the hand that's flat, lighter, facing downards providing MORE air resistance!
I've watched thousands of basketball games. I've never seen ANYONE's hand turns 90 degrees from attempting to block a pass or a shot.
Try turning your hand 90 degrees from your arm. Heck it takes some effort for the hand to be at 90 degrees from the arm. THIS IS UNNATURAL.
Care to comment about CC knocking out Dijonai's contact lens yesterday or does that qualify as a "natural" movement?
Lmao
Yo, MDB! Tell Neil deGrasse Tyson over there that this was the 3rd YouTube short listed when I just searched for “basketball pass deflection.”
https://m.youtube.com/shorts/yUbN9HG3vpk
Look, the guy who swipes at the ball has his hand go 90 degrees afterward! He is…not normal.
He is…dun dunnn duuuuuunnnnnn…UNNATURAL.
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Given that Carrington has been openly hating on Clark and the Fever all season, yeah pretty good chance it was intentional.
But no way to know for sure and nothing you can do about it really.
I do think nail length should be in the rule book though. I remember when I was a kid refs would sometimes check people's nails before games to make sure they were trimmed, but haven't seen that in a long time.
Regardless, Carrington is a baddie and a baller, so it's unfortunate that she has decided to repeatedly go after Clark and her fans, but all great players have a target on their back and have to deal with haters, so it is what it is.
She knows Clark will be cooking her on the reg down the line so she's getting her shots in while she can. No big deal, though it's kinda wild that the obvious foul was missed (WNBA refs really do miss some obvious fouls and I don't know how you guys don't see it).
            
                                    
                                    But no way to know for sure and nothing you can do about it really.
I do think nail length should be in the rule book though. I remember when I was a kid refs would sometimes check people's nails before games to make sure they were trimmed, but haven't seen that in a long time.
Regardless, Carrington is a baddie and a baller, so it's unfortunate that she has decided to repeatedly go after Clark and her fans, but all great players have a target on their back and have to deal with haters, so it is what it is.
She knows Clark will be cooking her on the reg down the line so she's getting her shots in while she can. No big deal, though it's kinda wild that the obvious foul was missed (WNBA refs really do miss some obvious fouls and I don't know how you guys don't see it).
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CIN-C-STAR wrote:Given that Carrington has been openly hating on Clark and the Fever all season, yeah pretty good chance it was intentional.
But no way to know for sure and nothing you can do about it really.
I do think nail length should be in the rule book though. I remember when I was a kid refs would sometimes check people's nails before games to make sure they were trimmed, but haven't seen that in a long time.
Regardless, Carrington is a baddie and a baller, so it's unfortunate that she has decided to repeatedly go after Clark and her fans, but all great players have a target on their back and have to deal with haters, so it is what it is.
She knows Clark will be cooking her on the reg down the line so she's getting her shots in while she can. No big deal, though it's kinda wild that the obvious foul was missed (WNBA refs really do miss some obvious fouls and I don't know how you guys don't see it).
Yeah, that nail length just doesn't seem ideal for basketball or safe.
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Stannis wrote:Definitely dirty and looked intentional. The hand and arm action looked unnatural (readjusted mid air after realizing she missed). But calling it "CRIMINAL behavior" is a stretch.
I will say this is worth a fine. This is a Draymond Green-esque foul.
This isn't just "hard ball", "playoff basketball". This is just dirty. C'mon now.
Come on Stannis this is clearly accidental contact
By your logic, the play where CC knocked Dijonai's contact lens out was dirty too. So should Clark be fined as well?
Do yall even understand how ridiculous this is? Incidental contact happens in every basketball game.
Nah man. Yall are blowing this up when it's a regular normal incidental basketball play. Trying to compare this to anything Draymond has done is absurd
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Wingy wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:___Rand___ wrote:
I can tell you didn't pass physics in high school. Oh wait, you didn't even take it did you. (I did IB physics - that's college level). The heavier denser part with less air resistance falls faster. In this case it's the ARM not the hand that's flat, lighter, facing downards providing MORE air resistance!
I've watched thousands of basketball games. I've never seen ANYONE's hand turns 90 degrees from attempting to block a pass or a shot.
Try turning your hand 90 degrees from your arm. Heck it takes some effort for the hand to be at 90 degrees from the arm. THIS IS UNNATURAL.
Care to comment about CC knocking out Dijonai's contact lens yesterday or does that qualify as a "natural" movement?
Lmao
Yo, MDB! Tell Neil deGrasse Tyson over there that this was the 3rd YouTube short listed when I just searched for “basketball pass deflection.”
https://m.youtube.com/shorts/yUbN9HG3vpk
Look, the guy who swipes at the ball has his hand go 90 degrees afterward! He is…not normal.
He is…dun dunnn duuuuuunnnnnn…UNNATURAL.
This is sad that it even has to come to this.
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CIN-C-STAR wrote:Given that Carrington has been openly hating on Clark and the Fever all season, yeah pretty good chance it was intentional.
But no way to know for sure and nothing you can do about it really.
I do think nail length should be in the rule book though. I remember when I was a kid refs would sometimes check people's nails before games to make sure they were trimmed, but haven't seen that in a long time.
Regardless, Carrington is a baddie and a baller, so it's unfortunate that she has decided to repeatedly go after Clark and her fans, but all great players have a target on their back and have to deal with haters, so it is what it is.
She knows Clark will be cooking her on the reg down the line so she's getting her shots in while she can. No big deal, though it's kinda wild that the obvious foul was missed (WNBA refs really do miss some obvious fouls and I don't know how you guys don't see it).
Carrington was hating on the Fever all season? Dude her girlfriend plays on the team, are you serious? Also, the Sun beat the Fever 4 out of 5 times this season including yesterday. I don't see anyone hating except the weird portion of CC's fanbase that likes to stir up crap like OP was doing with this garbage ass thread. Calling Dijonai a criminal is racist as it gets.
The only thing Carrington did was speak out about the abuse she has received from the racist and bigoted portion of Caitlin's fanbase (a portion which she told to stop their crap months ago and they didn't listen). She never attacked Clark personally.
You guys just like make up sh*t to fit an agenda. It's not helpful and frankly I question the motives of people who do this.
Caitlin literally knocked her contact lens out by accident and none of yall have said dick about it. That's how I know this is some culture war BS.
Dijonai did nothing wrong aside from making incidental contact on a routine basketball play.
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cdubbz wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:Wingy wrote:
Identity, culture war bull**** at its "finest."
It's aggravating. As soon as ESPN replayed the play over and over again I knew it would illicit this kind of crap. I also have a strong feeling that if this was Mabrey instead of Carrington, this would be a non issue. We know why culture warriors are upset.
If you've never seen someone accidentally poked in the eye before during a basketball game, I don’t know what to tell you.
This is probably the worst thing about WNBA right now. i don't engage with them, but half the timeline is filled with race wars.
You have whites, blacks, lesbians all fighting this culture war in the fandom online. Almost anything that happens in the league race is brought up on social media and it completely takes away from the game.
- Fans were upset that MVP award was announced really early yesterday and I saw comments like "let's pay attention to when they announce the other awards for that girl" (insinuating ROY would be announced at a more convenient time for Clark v Wilson)
- An avid WNBA fan, season ticket holder, and threads poster made a comment as to why A'ja Wilson isn't more of a household name? "racism". A'ja fans were also upset Nike didn't announce anything on their website for Wilsons unanimous MVP "racism".
- Why is Fever game on ABC and everything else on ESPN? racism.
It's all so stupid. None of this is helping. We can't even focus on hoops because of culture war crap.
-Caitlin gets touched, the racists start coming out the wood works to infantilize her, which is absolutely disgusting for many reasons, mostly steeped in misogyny towards her and Black players.
-The Fever/Sun game was on ABC because CC is the league's biggest draw. That's not racism, it's business. A WNBA playoff game on a Sunday afternoon in September is up against the NFL. The league has to put its #1 draw in there to siphon viewers. I guarantee it worked too
Instead of celebrating the playoffs people just grab whatever they can that suits their agenda and start a bunch of garbage. I really hope that this won't be the norm over the next few years.
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I guarantee you: if Marina Mabrey accidentally poked CC in the eye instead of Dijonai, this thread would not exist. 
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MrDollarBills wrote:CIN-C-STAR wrote:Given that Carrington has been openly hating on Clark and the Fever all season, yeah pretty good chance it was intentional.
But no way to know for sure and nothing you can do about it really.
I do think nail length should be in the rule book though. I remember when I was a kid refs would sometimes check people's nails before games to make sure they were trimmed, but haven't seen that in a long time.
Regardless, Carrington is a baddie and a baller, so it's unfortunate that she has decided to repeatedly go after Clark and her fans, but all great players have a target on their back and have to deal with haters, so it is what it is.
She knows Clark will be cooking her on the reg down the line so she's getting her shots in while she can. No big deal, though it's kinda wild that the obvious foul was missed (WNBA refs really do miss some obvious fouls and I don't know how you guys don't see it).
Carrington was hating on the Fever all season? Dude her girlfriend plays on the team, are you serious? Also, the Sun beat the Fever 4 out of 5 times this season including yesterday. I don't see anyone hating except the weird portion of CC's fanbase that likes to stir up crap like folks are doing with this garbage ass thread.
The only thing Carrington did was speak out about the abuse she has received from the racist and bigoted portion of Caitlin's fanbase (a portion which she told to stop their crap months ago and they didn't listen). She never attacked Clark personally.
You guys just like make up sh*t to fit an agenda. It's not helpful and frankly I question the motives of people who do this.
Caitlin literally knocked her contact lens out by accident and none of yall have said dick about it. That's how I know this is some culture war BS.
Dijonai did nothing wrong aside from making incidental contact on a routine basketball play.
Search
“Clark knocks out Carrington contact”
….no YouTube results
“Clark Carrington contact lense”
…5 vids on “Dijonai Carrington grossly put her dirty contact lens back in after accidental Caitlin Clark smack”
so the negative focus is on the person that gets hit?
(And oh wow, what Caitlin did is MUCH more unnatural than what Dijonai did)
(And wow, they don’t have contact solution on a WNBA training staff kit? Wtf?)
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Wingy wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:CIN-C-STAR wrote:Given that Carrington has been openly hating on Clark and the Fever all season, yeah pretty good chance it was intentional.
But no way to know for sure and nothing you can do about it really.
I do think nail length should be in the rule book though. I remember when I was a kid refs would sometimes check people's nails before games to make sure they were trimmed, but haven't seen that in a long time.
Regardless, Carrington is a baddie and a baller, so it's unfortunate that she has decided to repeatedly go after Clark and her fans, but all great players have a target on their back and have to deal with haters, so it is what it is.
She knows Clark will be cooking her on the reg down the line so she's getting her shots in while she can. No big deal, though it's kinda wild that the obvious foul was missed (WNBA refs really do miss some obvious fouls and I don't know how you guys don't see it).
Carrington was hating on the Fever all season? Dude her girlfriend plays on the team, are you serious? Also, the Sun beat the Fever 4 out of 5 times this season including yesterday. I don't see anyone hating except the weird portion of CC's fanbase that likes to stir up crap like folks are doing with this garbage ass thread.
The only thing Carrington did was speak out about the abuse she has received from the racist and bigoted portion of Caitlin's fanbase (a portion which she told to stop their crap months ago and they didn't listen). She never attacked Clark personally.
You guys just like make up sh*t to fit an agenda. It's not helpful and frankly I question the motives of people who do this.
Caitlin literally knocked her contact lens out by accident and none of yall have said dick about it. That's how I know this is some culture war BS.
Dijonai did nothing wrong aside from making incidental contact on a routine basketball play.
Search
“Clark knocks out Carrington contact”
….no YouTube results
“Clark Carrington contact lense”
…5 vids on “Dijonai Carrington grossly put her dirty contact lens back in after accidental Caitlin Clark smack”
so the negative focus is on the person that gets hit?
(And oh wow, what Caitlin did is MUCH more unnatural than what Dijonai did)
(And wow, they don’t have contact solution on a WNBA training staff kit? Wtf?)
My eyeballs started to SCREAM when she did that
 Kelsey Mitchell was trying to help her find her contact and when they did, Dijonai just rolled that thing flat and put it back in
 Kelsey Mitchell was trying to help her find her contact and when they did, Dijonai just rolled that thing flat and put it back inShe's got the blood of an NFLer running through her veins so I know she's not a punk, but damn sis get some solution on that thing.
Both plays were incidental to me. It was a regular playoff game where sh*t happens. Neither player cares as much as fans do.
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MrDollarBills wrote:CIN-C-STAR wrote:Given that Carrington has been openly hating on Clark and the Fever all season, yeah pretty good chance it was intentional.
But no way to know for sure and nothing you can do about it really.
I do think nail length should be in the rule book though. I remember when I was a kid refs would sometimes check people's nails before games to make sure they were trimmed, but haven't seen that in a long time.
Regardless, Carrington is a baddie and a baller, so it's unfortunate that she has decided to repeatedly go after Clark and her fans, but all great players have a target on their back and have to deal with haters, so it is what it is.
She knows Clark will be cooking her on the reg down the line so she's getting her shots in while she can. No big deal, though it's kinda wild that the obvious foul was missed (WNBA refs really do miss some obvious fouls and I don't know how you guys don't see it).
Carrington was hating on the Fever all season? Dude her girlfriend plays on the team, are you serious? Also, the Sun beat the Fever 4 out of 5 times this season including yesterday. I don't see anyone hating except the weird portion of CC's fanbase that likes to stir up crap like folks are doing with this garbage ass thread.
The only thing Carrington did was speak out about the abuse she has received from the racist and bigoted portion of Caitlin's fanbase (a portion which she told to stop their crap months ago and they didn't listen). She never attacked Clark personally.
You guys just like make up sh*t to fit an agenda. It's not helpful and frankly I question the motives of people who do this.
Caitlin literally knocked her contact lens out by accident and none of yall have said dick about it. That's how I know this is some culture war BS.
Dijonai did nothing wrong aside from making incidental contact on a routine basketball play.
I love how you can't let anyone have an opinion on this forum unless it conforms to your bias, lol.
I know she's dating Nalyssa Smith. Cool. What's that got to do with anything?
Here's a quick rundown from this season:
Carrington said to the media that Clark was a flopper after their first game.
And she didn't just "speak out abuse the abuse she has received from the racist and bigoted portion of Caitlin's fanbase", she said specifically that Clark wasn't bothered by her name being used to promote racism and hatred.
Except Clark never said that. She never even said anything close to that. But Carrington put that out there anyway (on Twitter of all places, that bastion of toxic takes that players like Carrington complain about so much but can't seem to log off of).
And then in their last game, after she tried to shush the Indiana crowd with a 3 and then got cooked on the very next play by Clark and the Fever won, she said that the Fever have "the worst fans in the league. ew" -- sure seemed like sour grapes.
So, yeah, attacking an entire fan base, calling that teams best player a flopper and saying that said player is cool with promoting racism, is generally considered hating a little bit.
Which is fine. It's sports. There are supposed to be rivalries and not everyone has to be buddy-buddy.
But your insistence that "I don't see anyone hating except the weird portion of CC's fanbase" is what's weird. I know you were already aware of all these things, but you choose to pretend like they didn't happen for some reason in your response.
You white knight almost as hard for these other girls as Clark's fans do for her, but then get so upset when anyone white knights for Clark ("garbage ass thread").
You're becoming the flip side of the coin you spend so much time denouncing.
Yes, Carrington has hated on Indiana and Clark this season on multiple occasions.
Which is fine. She doesn't have to like a rival team or a rival player.
I'm not upset about it my man, why are you so defensive about it?
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MrDollarBills wrote:My eyeballs started to SCREAM when she did thatKelsey Mitchell was trying to help her find her contact and when they did, Dijonai just rolled that thing flat and put it back in
She's got the blood of an NFLer running through her veins so I know she's not a punk, but damn sis get some solution on that thing.
Both plays were incidental to me. It was a regular playoff game where sh*t happens. Neither player cares as much as fans do.
Yeah, ouch! I’m a wearer, so damn that looks uncomfortable just watching. Carrington would be one of my top FA targets given game and age.
Agree that I don’t see anything dirty with either. I do think Caitlin’s was more intentional, but in the form of frustration, not dirty.
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CIN-C-STAR wrote:Yes, Carrington has hated on Indiana and Clark this season on multiple occasions.
Which is fine. She doesn't have to like a rival team or a rival player.
I'm not upset about it my man, why are you so defensive about it?
Caitlin does flop. She does exaggerate contact plenty of times. Dijonai’s speaking the truth. Caitlin’s playing the game of playing the refs like many, many smart players do. Neither of them did anything wrong. It’s part of the gameship to influence refs, from both players.
Dijonai basically said Caitlin was complicit in her silence re: people using her name. There was certainly some truth to that. I for one contended that despite there being truth, that was a huge burden to put on a young woman, and was fine with CC taking her time to find her voice. She sooner than later (after DC’s comments) made a statement in an interview.
I don’t see “hate” in any of that.
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Wingy wrote:CIN-C-STAR wrote:Yes, Carrington has hated on Indiana and Clark this season on multiple occasions.
Which is fine. She doesn't have to like a rival team or a rival player.
I'm not upset about it my man, why are you so defensive about it?
Caitlin does flop. She does exaggerate contact plenty of times. Dijonai’s speaking the truth. Caitlin’s playing the game of playing the refs like many, many smart players do. Neither of them did anything wrong. It’s part of the gameship to influence refs, from both players.
Dijonai basically said Caitlin was complicit in her silence re: people using her name. There was certainly some truth to that. I for one contended that despite there being truth, that was a huge burden to put on a young woman, and was fine with CC taking her time to find her voice. She sooner than later (after DC’s comments) made a statement in an interview.
I don’t see “hate” in any of that.
It’s fine if you agree with her, but we don’t have to go by what she “basically said”.
We have what she actually said.
And she said Clark wasn’t bothered by being used to promote racism and hate.
Except Clark never said that.
Again, we don’t have to give generous interpretations to grown adults capable of speaking for themselves. I think you guys call it “infantilizing” women around these parts, and it’s considered a major no-no when some posters do it for certain players.
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CIN-C-STAR wrote:It’s fine if you agree with her, but we don’t have to go by what she “basically said”.
We have what she actually said.
And she said Clark wasn’t bothered by being used to promote racism and hate.
Except Clark never said that.
Again, we don’t have to give generous interpretations to grown adults capable of speaking for themselves. I think you guys call it “infantilizing” women around these parts, and it’s considered a major no-no when some posters do it for certain players.
It was overly harsh and inaccurate (what Dijonai said), but that still doesn’t take away the accuracy of my summary.
Being silent does imply you are complicit and ok with it. There is truth to that. People were and still are using her name to spread hatred. Stomp that **** out…and she did.
You can ignore it and call out how the world should be til you’re blue in the face. That’s not going to change how the world actually is. People are going to unfortunately pay attention to social media bologna and trash and vitriol. Too many people love drama and eat it up. It’s unfortunately here to stay. She shouldn’t have had to, but I’m glad Caitlin spoke up.
Reinsdorf & Co. - sell the team!!
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MrDollarBills wrote:Stannis wrote:Definitely dirty and looked intentional. The hand and arm action looked unnatural (readjusted mid air after realizing she missed). But calling it "CRIMINAL behavior" is a stretch.
I will say this is worth a fine. This is a Draymond Green-esque foul.
This isn't just "hard ball", "playoff basketball". This is just dirty. C'mon now.
Come on Stannis this is clearly accidental contact
By your logic, the play where CC knocked Dijonai's contact lens out was dirty too. So should Clark be fined as well?
Do yall even understand how ridiculous this is? Incidental contact happens in every basketball game.
Nah man. Yall are blowing this up when it's a regular normal incidental basketball play. Trying to compare this to anything Draymond has done is absurd
There is no chance this was 100% accidental, the only people who believe that (like yourself) are truly just naive to the nature of eye pokes. For example, eye pokes are currently the single biggest issue in the entire sport of MMA. Pretty much every single fight card numerous fights are affected because a fighter pokes another in the eye and right now, despite eye pokes being designated as a blatant foul, refs are too afraid to "influence the outcome" by enforcing fouls and taking points, and instead fights are routinely negatively impacted by eye pokes that either incapacitate one fighter completely and cause the fight to end, or the poked fighter is just compromised for the remainder of the fight and there is literally zero repercussions for committing the foul. As such, any diehard MMA fan has legit probably watched hundreds of different eye pokes over the last 5 years from the UFC alone. What Carrington did is not even remotely a natural reaction or movement that happens to the fingers unless it's intentional. It's not just the wrist goose-necking downwards on the block attempt, but what her fingers actually do where they come together, point downward, and then extend outward. It's 100% what an intentional eyepoke looks like to anyone who sees them with any regularity (which let's be honest, if you're strictly a basketball fan posting on RealGM you simply aren't going to have seen even a mere fraction of eye pokes that you'd see in another sport)
If you want to argue that Carrington wasn't trying to stick her nails/fingers in Clark's eye intentionally...maybe. But she 100% was intending to be reckless with the block attempt and to at the very least have plausible deniability that it was intentionally hitting someone in the face. Sort of like a "I'm going to go hard asf for this block and if I hit her in the face so be it".
Now I also 100% believe that Clark hit Carrington back in the face on purpose. That was retaliation. However, my next point is the more salient one. That sequence shows the major issue the WNBA, their refs, and league office have. That first eye poke on Carrington HAS TO BE CALLED. Whether anyone wants to argue intent or not, an eyepoke has to be a flagrant 1 at the very least and enforced. Because what happens when refs do not call stuff like that is the game gets out of hand and players will take it upon themselves to police the game. That leads to injuries where players are intentionally hurting each other because the refs and league will not do it's job properly calling fouls and protecting players. I would run into this specific problem nonstop coaching middle school boys when I would have a kid on my team that hit puberty early/was huge for his age. When you are coaching middle schoolers and lets say you have a kid who who is 6'4 250lbs as a 7th grader what happens is that kid basically just gets nonstop fouled by other kids. Like picture how Lebron gets mauled driving times 100. The vast majority of opponents are outweighed by 100lbs and literally they can hit the big kid as hard as they can and nothing happens. Well occasionally you get refs who don't want to call any fouls to keep the game moving or they just see a big kid get slapped and not move an inch and don't think it's worth while, and they definitely ain't calling any accidental fouls. Well sometimes the big kid then snaps and then some 120lb 5'6'' then goes for a layup and gets fully laid out where they flip in the air they get hit so hard. What I'm getting at is the WNBA, their refs, league office, etc are all those youth league refs in how they approach the game. They don't protect their own players. They hide behind BS like "that's how it is all rookies have it tough" despite no one being able to produce the same video evidence of other rookies getting Clark treatment (also can you imagine the NBA allowing their refs and fellow players to crap so hard on their future stars, the NBA does not allow BS like that to occur and specifically protects their young guys)
As far as how eye pokes should be treated going forward, harshly because they are super dangerous. Should basically be treated the same as a punch, maybe worse. Any eyepoke should automatically be a flagrant 1 for player safety, regardless of intent. Could be review for intent and possible ejection. But also they should be tracked in the sense of if a player eyepokes someone on accident and gets their flagrant and then within the next however many games eye pokes someone again, they automatically get ejected from the current game and then suspended for 2 additional games or something. In terms of nail length restrictions, that should definitely be a thing in general as it's 100% a safety issue and a cleanliness one too. Acrylic nails should be banned and if a player has too long of nails to start a game whether it's natural or acrylic they get a technical foul and obviously cannot enter the game until the nails are cut. That should be the rule on the men's side too. We need to legislate gross effing nails completely out of basketball on every level down to pickup.
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Wingy wrote:CIN-C-STAR wrote:It’s fine if you agree with her, but we don’t have to go by what she “basically said”.
We have what she actually said.
And she said Clark wasn’t bothered by being used to promote racism and hate.
Except Clark never said that.
Again, we don’t have to give generous interpretations to grown adults capable of speaking for themselves. I think you guys call it “infantilizing” women around these parts, and it’s considered a major no-no when some posters do it for certain players.
It was overly harsh and inaccurate (what Dijonai said), but that still doesn’t take away the accuracy of my summary.
Being silent does imply you are complicit and ok with it. There is truth to that. People were and still are using her name to spread hatred. Stomp that **** out…and she did.
You can ignore it and call out how the world should be til you’re blue in the face. That’s not going to change how the world actually is. People are going to unfortunately pay attention to social media bologna and trash and vitriol. Too many people love drama and eat it up. It’s unfortunately here to stay. She shouldn’t have had to, but I’m glad Caitlin spoke up.
I don’t personally agree that people are complicit to things said in their name that they aren’t even aware of (would be different of course if these things were being said in front of Clark and she said nothing, rather than by nobodies on Twitter that she’s never engaged with), but I appreciate you being able to discuss it rationally and acknowledge what Carrington actually said.
And I agree about Clark flopping btw, just don’t remember Carrington publicly calling out Taurasi or Skylar or Aja etc. for it when, like you said, all the great players do it.
And like I said before, I’ve no problem with a little hate going Clark’s way either way. It’s part of the game as well.
I don’t get the impression that Carrington is much of a fan, nor should she be. She’s a competitor.
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The CC is being unfairly treated narrative is tiresome. We have people here claiming to be experts on physics and eye pokes (tbf, I stopped reading that post around that point). It’s just a lot. Really hope this calms down in upcoming years bc I really enjoy the game.  
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sikma42 wrote:The CC is being unfairly treated narrative is tiresome. We have people here claiming to be experts on physics and eye pokes (tbf, I stopped reading that post around that point). It’s just a lot. Really hope this calms down in upcoming years bc I really enjoy the game.
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I'm not reading all that either. This stuff is unhinged. Physics? Lmao. Do you know how many people get poked in the eye during basketball games?
I've seen a lot of Sun games over the last few years and every Fever/Sun match up this season and I can safely offer my opinion:
-I have seen nothing from Dijonai Carrington since 2022 that remotely leads me to believe that she is a dirty player. She plays super hard and gets physical, but nothing that remotely warrants any of this or being compared to Draymond Green, a player that actually commits assault against opponents and his own teammates.
-She and Clark compete hard against each other. Any sane person can watch them play and can see that nothing done from either side is malicious. I notice again, no one cares that Dijonai also got hit in the eye, nor is anyone questioning Caitlin's intent.
To insinuate that she attempted to gouge Caitlin's eye out is weird, and I hate that people are trying to project this weirdness on a good, fun match up between two players that compete hard.
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